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I am re-posting this per request from Lymetoo. I can hardly believe that 1) I got three emails right away w/dr's & advice (huge thanks to those people) 2)that their is so much support here it is truly a Godsend!
Anyway, maybe I can get more info about the negetive test question. Here is my original?
I think I have Lyme although IgG/M BA screen (is this the Elisa?) was neg. 2 ?'s - 1 how do you get diagnosed for Lyme when test is neg and are there any good LLMD Near Milwaukee WI - can't believe the 2nd highest area for Lyme doesn't have one?!?
Have seen GP, Nuero all say I am depressed, anxiety carpel tunnel, don't know. Hyperthyroid by .01 over scale - big deal. Didn't know knees could burn when your depressed!
I was a healthy 38 year old mom of 3 (2, 7, 13)boys 6 months ago. Fall 04
Now have hard time getting up in morning, chills, sweats, palpitations, neck aches with burning, chronic conjunctivitis, worst symptoms are my knees feel like i am 98 not 38. They burn sometimes from thigh to toes. Heart feels funny like it's being squeezed, left arm feels like it's getting squeezed, fatigue although sleep sometimes 10 hours. can't walk up stairs without getting out of breath. Flu like all the time. Can't think straight - or remember things, dyslexic.
sick for about 6 months - please help, don't want this to go on for years, have read too many tragic stories. Sorry to go on but thanks for letting me vent frustrations, sadness.
TheCrimeOfLyme
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Lyme knows no boundaries. Yes, there is lyme in Wisconsin. If there is air there, there is lyme there
If you find a LLMD, you will not have to worry about your negative testing. You do not need a postive to be treated for lyme. It is a clinical diagnosis and LLMD's are smart enough to know this. You could
waive a bright red positive in a non LLMD- MD's face and they would still laugh at you or hand you a script for Paxil.
Please make an appoitnment with a LLMD and get on the road to treating this.
I am not sure what that test is that you have had done.
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cafe67
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Thanks Crime, that is reassuring! - again I can't believe what great, fast responses you get here instead of having to wait weeks for ridiculous answers from docs-(zanax). This forum is surely part of the cure!
Have Monday (can't believe quick)appt w/LLMD thanks to Ann of Ohio.
Never thought this would consume my life! I say a little prayer everyday for this org.!
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Your symptoms sound EXACTLY like mine...and I have been treated for 1 1/2 years by an LLMD...after being told by my PCP that my ELISA was negative.
I think you'll be really glad you have made the move to an LLMD. And I have read so many posts here from people in Wisconsin; I get the impression that the Lyme probelm there is almost as bad as here in the northeast.
Let us know how it goes!!
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janet thomas
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cafe-
1-I tested neg twice with the lyme screening test, bad test,high false neg rate
2-Get a Lyme western blot blood test, you local doc can order it, and ask for a copy of your test result, politely insist on it
3-The following bands on a western blot are specific for Lyme-any ONE indicates exposure- 18, 23, 31, 34 37, 39, 83, 93 Pay no attention to the lab's interpretation of the test as pos or neg
4-go to support groups at the left and find some close to you and call/contact them and ask for dr recommendations
5- make an appt with an LLMD ASAP
6-Doxycycline 200 mg twice a day is often a good starting antibiotic protocol for Lyme, it can cause sun sensitivity
7- Get tested by the LLMD for co-infections including Babesia
8- My knees hurt a lot too. I buy wrap around freezer packs at CVS, helps me with the pain
9-You're not alone-we're here to help
10-Don't pay no never mind to docs that don't recognize Lyme and tell you it's blah, blah,blah, blah etc
I also was infected with Lyme in Wisconsin. I share some of the same symptoms. The burning is very familiar, and I find that when it's in my legs and feet, a warm bath/foot bath seems to help. I use hot neck wraps for the neck pain, and that usually helps the pain a lot too.
Best of luck at your LLMD appt!
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cafe67
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Julie, it's sickeningly reassuring to hear you had/have the same symptoms! Sorry you went through same! Glad you are here with me though! Wisconsin "reports" as the 5th highest state for Lyme according to the CDC.
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Thanks to everyone! Really and truly! Sounds crazy but y'all must have Lyme for a reason, that is, to help others in need like me. you don't know how much this helps, or maybe you do - gotta run - feeling ok today gotta get stuff done while timing is good. Better health to everyone! Will report in later - God bless and thanks!
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quote:Originally posted by cafe67: Julie, it's sickeningly reassuring to hear you had/have the same symptoms! Sorry you went through same! Glad you are here with me though! Wisconsin "reports" as the 5th highest state for Lyme according to the CDC.
Hi Cafe, Mike here, glad you're posting. Your six months of symptomology is a far shorter period of time than most on this board. Having said that, treatment will more than likely take some time as patience is the key. The CDC has Wisconsin ranked 5th in the nation ? Lyme is at epidemic proportions in this state. Even "duck factories" like Marshfield are sending glossy newspaper inserts warning people about lyme. Now, if one of those genius's could actually learn to treat it.................
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Hi again, Cafe! Glad you found all these great people over here in Medical. Later on when you have time, check out General Support too.
We announce birthdays over there, so when your month comes along, be sure to let me know! You can also check periodically and add your birthday greetings to those who are celebrating a birthday. There's one there now!
Be sure to let us know how your appointment goes next week!
troutscout
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Cafe,
The Wisconsin Dells and the surrounding area straight north and then over to the Twin Cities...is THE hot spot for Lyme....and I mean THE hot spot for Lyme in the US.
I saw a test that was done on ticks in endemic areas...and the Dells was at the TOP almost 75% of the ticks carried Lyme.
Scary.............
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Trout, you're absolutely right about Wisconsin being an endemic area. Wisconsin Dells is a huge tourist area. The whole town is full of water parks, go cart tracks, and Noah's Ark which is the largest water park in the world.
It's kiddie heaven, and a great time can be had by all. The surrounding area is infested with ticks, as is northern Wisconsin. The northern part where I live has huge tracts of forest and thousands of lakes, but sparsely populated by the natives. However, half of Chicago is up here in the summer, either enjoying their cottages, or vacationing.
That's why you'll see so many Chicagoans with lyme, they get it in Wisconsin. We have to pay for their damn toll roads when we go to Illinois, so we have our ticks bite them when they come up here
Combine the geography with the fact we're bordered by Lake Michigan on the east, and Lake Superior on the north, and it's prime breeding ground for ticks. Could be why we have a few more LLMD's here than other states as well.
Many medical professionals have had loved ones or themselves become infected with lyme, so they've done some research. Our local hospital checks stroke, alzheimers, etc. patients for lyme as a part of their normal procedures now, it's so endemic.
Truly a beautiful state, especially the northern half, but the ticks are thick as thieves up here.
Our LLMD tells us that we don't see much bart up here, but babs is very common with the lyme. He also mentioned that he believes the particular strain of Bb here is intensifying as he's seen much more CNS involvement in a relatively short time.
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Too be sure there is lyme in Wis. and babs also. This the sixth year of treatment for me,thr bugs really hang on. I agree we all need to find a LLMD,Travel if you must. One of the reasons I think Wi. does not have LLMD;s is because of a lack in privite practices. Most Doctors here have their hands teied by medical groups(money changers) I don't post much these days ,my brain isn;t right anymore so I sit in the background and watch. From what I see you are all doingf just fine ,continue to help and love each other. be as well as you can be Buggy
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Good Morning! Thank you to everyone who has replied. It's sad really...I get two older boys off to school, feed my 2 year old, get my coffee and run to lymenet to see new posts! Mike, I think that was data from 2002 - can't remember where I saw it. Know it was a CDC stat in research I was doing. Lymefog!
I wanted to thank everyone for all their help! I am overwhelmed with info and support! feeling warm & fuzzy (oh, maybe Lyme?) You are my heroes!
Maybe the SE area of Wisc needs to be reevaluted for Lyme - we (family) would walk/picnic almost every weekend last fall at our local nature center (Waukesha County), Audobon center (N Lake MI) we have tons of bushy grassy areas by our house that they designate as "preserves". Just saw a deer last week running through.
Yes, I think I have caught my symptoms earlier than most. Thanks to Lymenet and all who have replied so speedily! If it hadn't been for a search on google for "burning knees" and Lyme popping up, which led me here, I would still be going to dr after dr. Thinking I am "just getting old", happens to "women your age", "anxiety", "depression". "nothing wrong" "try this pill" "hyperthyroid" The neoro said "can't be Lyme, it starts in the hands and feet" Had just told him my first signs were my wrist burning after a bad flu.
I don't think it's my drs' fault too much, though. I'm sure they were following protocal for whatever gov reg is in place. They are just basically ignorant of facts. It seems they focus on one aspect of whatever's going on (heart palps - check heart, muscle weakness - check for MS, etc.) instead of taking a whole look at past and present and putting it together. If I could do it though, WHY COULDN'T MY DRS?
Boy, if you made it through this long verbage, you are a Saint! Thanks again to all! Will let know how dr goes - please keep posting to me. It's little things I catch that really make it all so clear!
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