I posted this under another thread referring to someone having surgery. Even if you just take abx, drugs, and a ton of other meds, this usually applies. Feeling bad (what you call herxheimers) is most often caused by a super congestion of all eliminating organs:

I had very similar experiences. But once you have been on abx and other killer type meds, the problem after a surgery is more likely from a congested liver that feels just like some Lyme symptoms. A body, if you have been on extensive medications is most likely running total overload and we need to see to it that you help your liver/kidney/skin/colon, etc. to unload as much as possible.
After many medicatiions for Lyme and then because of surgery, our organs have a tough time unless they get some serious help.

A good start is hot water with 1/2 lemon,sipping slowly, early a.m.,

at least twice a day; while sipping it accompanying it with a gentle massage that you can do yourself in the liver area. The area for liver and gallbladder is on the right side right below the last rib of the rib cage. A little massage, and for a few minutes works wonders!

Make certain that you take enough agents to have more than one BM, preferably 3, by upping all liver support agents and also upping magnesium (reducing it to the point of no diarrhea. Using all the neurotoxin elimination agents (see www.neuraltherapy.com/articles) possible.

Livit 1 by Ayush is a good liver support. Rentone for kidney. Both are ayurvedics.
Search Ayush.

Most reactions following meds are really caused by a congested liver! If you are killing critters, you need to help them out of the body. That does not happen automatically, because most Lyme afflicted do not have the wherewithall any longer for the body to do it on its own.

Get colonics as soon as you can after surgery, if you really must have surgery. Get professional lymph drainages (Vodder is a good technique). We use the KM240 for anything ever arising stagnating the body.

It's tough to have to do this when you are feeling miserable to begin with. But start with something I mentioned. I always love the lemon, followed by microcurrent works wonders. At least do the hand massage (gently). And please don't take another drug and get off the pain pills and any other pharma stuff as soon as you can. They are killers to an already sick body - the anesthetic takes weeks to leave the system.

There are many more organ support agents that people have talked about here.

It is very possible that a few Lyme bacteria come out of the woodsworks when you stress the system via surgery. But most of what makes you feel miserable is the toxicity overload to the liver, etc. Depression, nausea, nigthsweats, agressiveness, burning of the skin, etc. = Congested Liver!

I have noticed that many people posting here are missing the boat because they are not assisting their eliminating organs who are screaming for help - not a Herxheimer!

Take care.

P.S. Make use of your own hands - lie down and do some gentle massaging. I have described the "own hands Lymph drainage" from the bottom of the feet up and from the crown of the head down to the chest, at least 100 times on this board. Costs nothing - if you are not interested, your loss!

P.P.S. Not all nightsweats are Babesia. More likely than not nightsweats, chills, etc. are caused by a congested liver. Take one close look in the mirror - if you see just the slightest, very slightest tinge of
yellow anywhere in your face/neck ----- go give your liver/gallbladder a hand. Then it's high time.

Thanks for the ideas on increasing BM. I had read that 3 a day was recommended. I'll have some of these products muscle tested to see if they help.

I am not doing to well...sorry I haven't written.....

Some say you can get some real benefit using a rebounder. Rebounding stimulates the lymph system. I could do that now, but months ago I would of fallen on my face.

How are you? I fully agree about the need for elimination, the often underemphasized need. I fully endorse massage and lymphatic drainage, truly the keys to longevity. I for some reason haven't read the toe to head self-massage/drainage technique, could you please post a link to it?

Where can I get Livit 1 by Ayush?

I hope you are doing well. Don't let your liver or kidneys give you any trouble.

-trevor

If you can, look up the flow of the lymphatic channels and find the exit points where the lymph containing toxins and good stuff enter into the blood stream.

The main exit point is near the sternum - the spot between the middle of the breasts.

Start by gently stroking, gently as if stroking a small animal or baby, start in the neck area under the chin where some of you have bumps sitting that feel like eggs where the lymph is stuck and congesting you. Stroke the lymph gently toward the sternum area. You do not want to start in another body area, because if the area around the neck is clogged, lymph from other areas cannot get through there to move toward the exit points.

That empties out this area on the neck. Then you can slowly go higher and higher on the head, gently stroking down in front of ears and behind ears, going past the neck and down to the breast/exit area.

Then start stroking at the hands, up the arms, over shoulders, again toward the middle of the chest area. Always do both sides.

If you have to do it yourself, reach the areas you can - you will move plenty of lymph that way.

Once you have done the upper - neck, head, arms, shoulders -- all toward the chest. start at the bottom of your feet, with both hands, stroking upward toward the butt, front on both sides of public bone (where many of you have a lump because the lymph is stuck there - it hurts like menstrual cramps woman know). Gently, with flat almost caressing hands, move the lymph up toward the middle of the chest area; and up the butt and back area that you can reach.

If you do not move the lymph, the toxins are stuck and create congestion everywhere else.

This is one of the most single challenges in health care to eliminate toxins from the body. Lymphatic functions include: transporting nutriets and oxygen to the cells and tissues, removing protein waste (dead bugs)and other waste matter, including environmental toxins) from the cells and the body's interstitial (in between) regions. By doing this you maintain fluid balance in the connective tissue, and transporting fatty acids from the small intestine to the liver for storage and later use.

When the lymphatic system becomes congested, these functions are impaired, depriving cells of oxygen and affecting the ability of the body to rid itself of its own waste material.Over time, other body systems that rely on the lymphatic system for waste removal will also become compromised, setting the stage pain and disease. (many of you call it a herxheimer - it is not)

A sure sign of lymph congestion is sore or swollen lymph glands, noticeable in the neck, armpits, groin, and intestines. Illness as wide ranging as allergies, fibrocystic disease, and cancer can be related to lymph congestion.