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I just had an interesting discussion yesterday with a friend who said her doctor told her that cholesterol-lowering drugs do not really damage the liver by themselves.
He said what happens is that the cholesterol COLLECTS in the liver, causing damage!! In other words, the drugs cause the cholesterol to be dumped into the liver![and it stays there]
Anybody know how I can find out more about this? I'm sure the drug companies would never admit to that even though they know the drugs have caused many people to need liver transplants!
quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo: I'm sure the drug companies would never admit to that even though they know the drugs have caused many people to need liver transplants!
I do not know how these medications work. I do know that doctors always talk about them effecting the liver. I am willing to bet if studies were done, there would proof that these drugs also cause kidney damage. From my experience I have encounter A LOT of people who were on cholesterol lowering drugs and suddenly their kidneys fail. My husband is one of those people. Of course be cause he is also diabetic, that is what is blame for the kidney failure. BUT his kidney's failed at a rate much quicker than the "norm" caused by diabetes. My husband is now a transplant patient. I have encountered many many people with the same story, who have taken these types of med.
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In my opinion the idea of good or bad levels of Cholesterol is a hoax perpetuated by the Drug companies ($19 billion a year for one company alone) for the sake of money.. http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm
This website is about that myth... Read the book "The Cholesterol Myth" Amazon has it. There is no hard evidence that Cholesterol has any effect on heart disease.. But there is hard evidence that messing with the body's Cholesterol levels will lower the immune system, cause dementia, and damage the liver.. The world average Cholesterol level is 240-250 according to the UN WHO. There is evidence that women over sixty should be 250 or higher, otherwise there is high risk for beast cancer... Womens' cholestrol is different than mens'. Of course us lyme veterns know how accurate doctors are. I firmly believe that the immune system is key to all of the strange diseases we see today. The modern diet of artificial oils created by man (veggie oils) are dangerous (they turn into transfats). The body cannot ingest the crap. Cholesterol is made by the body from natural oils such as animal fats,natural veggie oils such as coconut, peanut, olives, and palm oil.. Also as a side note the brain is made of mostly Cholesterol. Young children need the natural fats to develop healthy brains and strong immune systems... Eggs,real butter, bacon, and grain bread toast is the best breakfast you can give them and yourself. Garbage cereals and sugars is poison for kids... The oil scam came about when it was discovered "artificial" fats could be made in the lab very cheap. So, there has been a propaganda campaign to sell this crap over the more expensive natural fats...
I learned this the hard way my wife had a Lyme diagnoses in the early eighties. We were married in 1990. She has been sick with something every day since that time. She thought that Lyme was cured. I doubt it.
Finally it all came to a head when she was diagnosed with stage three breast cancer with six months to live, max. Forty six nodes were infected. She had a double mastectomy. I am an engineer (pathology is a hobby of mine) so I begin a study of cancer. The immune system is the best defense. You must give the body what it needs to build the systems. She was given one year (once per week) of Herceptin. It was a experimental drug. $300K bucks (total cost,insurance paid most) later she survived and the cancer is gone. Although there were some mental issues, but that seems to have faded away. It is my opinion that the chemo killed the lyme bug for she is in better health a year later than I have ever known her to be.
I belive I didnot get the lyme bug for we never had sex (I was damaged in 'Nam). But, all of her children from her first marriage has had lyme type symptoms all of their lives. Yes I do belieive that lyme can be passed from individual to individuals.
I was always curious why syphllis kind of faded away but no cure was ever found. What I now believe that the medical community just ignores diseases that it cannot deal with..
Just for fun I asked my family gp doc about lyme. She said that it is rare and not significant.This is the same doctor that wanted to give my wife statins to lower her cholesterol. ( Stupid Idiot!!!) HELLO,,, she is just getting over cancer you big Dummy!!!
That is my two cents... TJ
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Block the production of cholesterol, but so does Mg...which happens to be one of the nutrients stored there.
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quote:Originally posted by ibrakeforticks: Is cholestyramine a statin drug that has the same dangers, or is it different?
it's cholestyramine resin. I've been taking this as in theory it soaks up neurotoxins as the neurotoxins are soaked up in your fat cells. I think it may help a little though trying to take it 4 times a day 1 hour after and 4 hours before meals or pills is nearly impossible I usually get in an afternoon dose and an evening dose.
cholestyramine resin, [USP] a strongly basic anion exchange resin in the chloride form, consisting of styrene-divinylbenzene copolymer with quaternary ammonium functional groups, having an affinity for bile acids, which it binds into an insoluble complex that is excreted in the feces, resulting in elimination of bile acids from the enterohepatic circulation and in increased oxidation of cholesterol to bile acids; administered orally for the relief of pruritus associated with cholestasis occurring in partial biliary obstruction and as adjunctive therapy to diet in the management of patients with elevated cholesterol due to primary type II hyperlipoproteinemia (patients with pure hypercholesterolemia).
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Tj33-Well said, and an interesting perspective. Janet Posts: 2001 | From NJ | Registered: Mar 2005
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They both do a number on CoQ10...must supplement. Expensive. RDA unknown. Do a search "CoQ10 cancer" for guidelines as to dosages and timing issues.
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But have we not knows for long now that mainstream doctors are not much more than little robots for the drug companies.
It's so amazing what MDs will tell you about cholesterol. MDs basically never look at the system picture of your health. They mainly go by a few tests, and then prescribe e.g. some cholesterol lowering med and tell you to exercise more and eat less fat.
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My husband has suffered the side effects of these dangerous statin drugs. I predict they will eventually go the way of vioxx...but not until they've killed more patients and the drug companies have made billions more.
I have come to believe that not only do patients hear the same hype about cholesterol and the wonderful benefits of statins........parroted right from the drug company brochures......they ALSO hear the same tripe about lyme and coinfections. (easily cured...etc)
Big Pharma and the health insurance companies are in charge of your health these days...with profits number one!
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