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Hi everyone, I found that Bowen labs (www.bowen.org)do Lyme tests that they claim are 100% accurate. I've done the Western Blot with Igenex already, but I'm thinking maybe I need more tests to confirm before trying to find and LLMD and travelling to see an LLMD.
Has anyone here done tests with them? Are they, in fact, good?
Many thanks, Ang
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janet thomas
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Your western blot indicates Lyme-get treated ASAP-let the LLmd order more tests.
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Hi Last year in Sept my son had a blood test done from Bowen, my doctor wanted a true test, it cost me $250 because it is research,my insurance would not pay it. test was a serial dilution and Buffy coat smear, range is from 1:2 to 1:128 my son was a 1:32 that was consider high, he was tested for babesia -negative ehrlichia - negative, plus it sends you a picture of it. then we did another one in Feb atMedical Diagnostic Lab I came out postive so did my son again. they did 7 different test on me and my son.I wish you luck,
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Bowen test is the best around. I wish I could have made the CT seminar. It must have been great.
Call Bowen Research & Training Institute at 727-937-9077 and ask for the Bowen test information. They received their patent this year and are waiting for FDA approval. Then they will be the only lyme test approved.
We have used this test twice a year since 2001 when they showed me I had HME, HGE, babesia and lyme.
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Sorry to be a skeptic, but I wouldn't feel right not to say that from everything I understand, every single person who has ever sent their blood into Bowen has come back positive for lyme. They recieved a patent, and are waiting FDA approval but this could take yearsd if ever.
Thier test may be accurate or it may not be, there really is not enough information about it in my opinion to trust it soley.
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They show you pictures of lyme from your own blood. If you think lyme is not everywhere, then do not take the Bowen test. If you think lyme is everywhere, then you are a candidate. If you want to save your life like I did after testing with the other labs including MDL, Igenex and BBI that never found the 4 coinfections that I had, then do not take the Bowen test. They have had negatives from fluids in the body, etc. when they send other type of specimens. It is really scary to see what is in your blood. Instead of spending many, many dollars on lyme test, get the one with the pics. Then you have the proof.
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Probably the reason why most people test positive is:
A: Most people that get the test taken usually have a clinical diagnosis beforehand, so chances are they have Lyme. (And usually have been through other tests, which are usually negative which is why they are getting tested by a LLMD in the first place.)
B: IMO most people carry Bb around in their system anyway, not everyone gets chronically ill. If someone is chronically ill, never drops their load despite treatment, then there is chance something else is wrong with (along with Lyme) them that is preventing the body from healing.
Overloaded detox pathways, co-genetic disease, co-infection that was missed, other environmental disease and/or toxic overload.
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For what it's worth, I know for a fact that not "every single person" tested by Bowen comes back positive. My physical therapist, who hunts a lot, had his blood sent in to them and he came back negative.
quote:Originally posted by ivebeentricked: Sorry to be a skeptic, but I wouldn't feel right not to say that from everything I understand, every single person who has ever sent their blood into Bowen has come back positive for lyme. They recieved a patent, and are waiting FDA approval but this could take yearsd if ever.
Thier test may be accurate or it may not be, there really is not enough information about it in my opinion to trust it soley.
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I have not had many positive tests (one positive PCR from MDL, equivical WBs from everywhere, including Igenex) but I did test positive from Bowen - 1:64 dilution. Just seeing that result was so great, I had more proof that Lyme is here in my system. But if you've already had Igenex done, it might be time to find a LLMD and let him/her order more tests if they see fit. Just my opinion.
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It was stated at the SF Conference that the Bowen Lab is not a CLIA clinical lab but a research lab and therefore the Bowen test for Lyme is somehow not to be considered on the same level as other lab test for Lyme disease. The truth is: the Bowen Lab was a CLIA approved lab from its inception until April of 2003.
In early 2003, the private lab was put under financial pressure due to lack of vital grant funding previously supplied from lyme organizations. Therefore since the funding was denied, Bowen was forced to change the labs status from that of a CLIA clinical lab to a research facility still under the State of Florida Health Department requirements.
Dr. W., the developer of the Bowen test, was determine not to close the lab, and to keep the test available to protocol physicians so they could use it in clinically diagnosing Lyme disease in their patients. She cared that many would go undiagnosed if the Bowen test was not available.
So you see Bowen either could close down or the only other option at that time was to change the lab from a clinical lab to a research status, nothing actually would change with this move, the test or the research. Since its inception, the main focus at the institute has been the development of an accurate test for the Borrelia burgdorferi (Bb) antigen, the causative agent of Lyme disease and co-infections.
Contrary to rumor, people have tested negative with the Bowen, with both blood and spinal fluid samples.
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