Don't know if this will help but if you can make two trips to Mexico, the first is mostly a scouting trip to find the best price. There can be as much as $1.50 difference per box of Tinidazol on the same street 1/2 block away. Buy what they have in stock which may not be much (they didn't know you were coming) and then order in the amount that you will pick up next time by arrangement. Customs is pretty lenient on the amount you bring back. I ask if there was a maximum amount we could bring back and they said yes, "too much", I ask, how much is too much and he smiled and said ``too much'' is too much. So I guess that if you're a cute girl you can pull a little red wagon, an old hairy-legged boy better be on crutches!

Now, first trip into Mexico, Charlie and his playmate showed me the ropes and I had good results with the Tinidazol I bought across from Brownsville. A year or so later I started buying it across from Eagle Pass and my condition began to deteriorate. You know joints and muscle pain, I put it down to a never ending herx. Looking back with hindsight, I may have gotten counterfeit Tinidazol. I was to the point I said, ``I've got to do something else!'' I started taking 100mg per day of doxy and after a couple of weeks of not getting any worst I started getting better. A side benefit was I could have a margarita everyday, don't know which caused the improvement and afraid now to stop either one but don't tell Mo!

Tinidazol can now be bought here in the states, someone on here mentioned that and I checked with my friends at the drug store and they confirmed it,

The Bicillin LA, comes in a little break open bottle that you add sterile water to and mix prior to injection. I purchased four bottles and broke three getting them home. Them my most powerful wouldn't let me try it. Now I could be wrong but I believe it was labeled Bicillin LA. You sure want to know the names of the stuff your going to use. Talking to the druggist over there is akin to talking with a pusher over here. ''Is this good stuff''? Yeah man, it's good **** I mean stuff!

I guess if you start taking a drug and you improve, it's a good drug, if you don't then it's a whole nother ball game. I'm just saying be careful and pay attention to what your body tells you, (as best you can)!

Tindamaz is expenssive here, like zithro, and it is the same stuff that they sell in Mexico dirt cheap. Drugs are such a ripoff here! A lot of the drugs sold here are made in Mexico anyways, they just put a different label on them.

You Must have your drivers licence.
Have a good trip and have a few Tacos
and a coke for me---Jay---

King originally produced Bicillan LA with another manufacturer that they had a contract with.

This year their contract ran out and the other manufaturer has stopped making it. They are in the process of reinstating the contract and it should be very soon.

Mexico... There has been a bit of a drug war going on in some areas lately, particularly Nuevo Laredo on the Texas border. Not long ago there was actually bazooka fire exchanged on a downtown street. Quite a few US citizens gave gone 'missing' as well. If you venture into that area be a little extra careful.

For perspective I think as much danger probably exists in places like Dallas, Houston, or Los Angeles. Just use good judgement.

As far as the meds, If you buy from one of the major pharmacy chains like Benavides, you should have no problem with fake meds. Penicillin isn't the type of drug commonly faked anyway. It too inexpensive to be very tempting. On the other hand there have been alot of fake drug scandals right here in the US lately.

I would avoid getting any kind of narcotic, sedative, or antidepressant type drug there, even if you have a prescription.

Odd as it may seem, they have extremely tough laws on those. They can throw you in prison for years for being in possession of them and not having a prescription from a Mexican Dr. on your person at the time. A Mexican prison is not a place you want to be.

Antibiotics and that sort of thing are on the other hand OTC, so you can buy all you want. Supposedly you can bring back a 90 day supply for your personal use. The Customs guys can be crabby sometimes, though. Being polite and respectful helps avoid problems. Don't hide things, that WILL get you in trouble.

Also be aware of the firearms laws. Most of us probably do not carry firearms, but even a single .22 shell in your glove box or pocket (leftover fron a hunting trip perhaps) can land one in prison for years in Mexico. Guilty until proven innocent is the rule.

Otherwise, enjoy your trip to Mexico. It is about the only place you can get your Bicillin anymore it seems.

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Pediatr Infect Dis J. 1998 Oct;17(10):890-3. Related Articles, Links

Lidocaine as a diluent for administration of benzathine penicillin G.

Amir J, Ginat S, Cohen YH, Marcus TE, Keller N, Varsano I.

Department of Pediatrics C, Schneider Children's Medical Center of Israel, Petah Tikva. [email protected]

OBJECTIVE: Benzathine penicillin G is recommended for secondary prophylaxis of rheumatic fever. Its main disadvantage is local pain and discomfort associated with the injection. Lidocaine as a diluent may reduce this discomfort. We compared the administration of benzathine penicillin G with two diluents; sterile water and lidocaine hydrochloride 1% for penicillin concentrations and pain of injection. DESIGN: In a randomized double blind, crossover trial, 18 children ages 11 to 19 years who required prophylactic treatment for rheumatic fever were randomly divided into two groups. One received an injection of benzathine penicillin G diluted with 3.2 ml of sterile water, followed 1 month later by an injection of benzathine penicillin G diluted in lidocaine hydrochloride 1%; the second group received the same regimen in the reverse order. Serum penicillin concentrations and subjective pain sensation were determined after each injection. RESULTS: Peak serum penicillin concentrations at 24 h after injection were similar for both preparations (0.100 microg/ml for water, 0.102 microg/ml for lidocaine), as were the other serum values measured throughout the month. After 28 days detectable concentrations (> or =0.020 microg/ml) were found in 44 and 291% of the subjects, respectively (P = 0.4). Urine penicillin concentrations on Day 28 were 1.81 +/- 0.25 and 2.31 +/- 0.25 microg/ml, respectively. The pain score immediately after the injection was significantly lower with the lidocaine than with the sterile water dilution. CONCLUSION: Use of lidocaine hydrochloride as a diluent for benzathine penicillin G does not change the penicillin concentration in body fluids and significantly reduces the pain of injection. We suggest the use of lidocaine hydrochloride 1% as a diluent for benzathine penicillin G.

Publication Types:
* Clinical Trial
* Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 9802630 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Buying drugs from a pharmacy in one of the bigger cities is much easier (for example: Mexico City, Monterrey or Guadalajara). So if you know anyone who is traveling to one of the non border towns in Mexico ask them to buy some medication for you.

And don't be afraid of ending up in a Mexican prison! Crossing the border back to the US ALL the officers you will bump into are American officers. There's no need for you to have any contact with Mexican police.

[This message has been edited by David95928 (edited 25 August 2005).]

I think that I will try it without lidocaine. No sense in complicating it. Now the needle size is a different story. I was hoping that the solution would be thin enough this way to use a 25G x 1" needle. I'm really skinny so there isn't any fat to go through. I thought that only the premixed bicillan was thick, and so needed a thicker needle? I remember reading a couple of posts from people who said that they were using a 25G needle.

If you are usig a dry penicillin, put on a new needle after drawing it into the syringe and you will find the whole process more comfortable. The rubber stopper dulls the needle.

I would not recommend a 25g with a penicillin because you want to immediately know if you are in a blood vessel. It is too easy for a little of the penicillin to get into the bore of a small needle and mix with the blood, clogging it so you do not see the blood when you pull back.

I have noticed that even with the thin soution of B 12 that there is always a little tissue that gets stuck in the end of the needle. It does take a little bit of extra pressure to get the solution moving. I think that this is going to happen no matter what size needle is used. Tissue is soft, and there really isn't much diameter difference between 18 and 25g. The smaller needle does do less damage though. Something to consider when having to do so many shots for a long period of time. If the solution will go through a 25g needle easily outside the body, then it would go through inside the muscle also. I'll have to give it a try and see.

James, you said that with a smaller needle that penicillan might get stuck in the needle and keep the blood from drawing back. I would think that that same problem could happen with tissue clogging up the end of the needle as it is inserted. Am I wrong?

Thanks so much for posting this information about Bicillin. It's a great help. I'm printing this thread out, too.

Still on Diflucan due to a longstanding black fungal ear infection. Will probably start Bicillin at Sept. visit??

Hey James - home you & your family are doing well.

Take Care,
Jan

I happened to be in Mexico in february this year, not for buying meds, but just on holiday. Since I was there I thought let's check prices and stock up on cheap meds. I checked for fluconazole, the branded / onnovator product Diflucan, and the price was much higher than in the UK. so I forgot about it... It was in playa del carmen though so very touritic and probably not the best place to get cheap meds...

Adios

Ronald