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Topic: What causes `muscle twitches' in LD?

Areneli
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I have been treated intensively for the last 5 months by combination of various antibiotics and alternative treatments and have achieved a remarkable improvement after months of herxing.

Today in general I am less tired, less foggy; definitely have less skin oversensitivity that bothered me so much in the past.

I have noticed that symptom of muscles twitch appeared first time after a few weeks of antibiotics (I didn't have it before) and in spite of improvement in all other areas it remains about the same: occurs a few times a day in variable locations each time lasting for a minute or so.

Please note, that this is not a serious problem for me, it is only a mild nuisance but I am puzzled why this symptom appeared during treatment and what could be its meaning.

Are there any theories developed on muscle twitches in Lyme disease?
How does symptom of muscle twitch refer to your remissions?

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ibrakeforticks
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I have these. I think taking magnesium helps. I think they're called fasciculations. There's something called "Benign Fasciculation Syndrome," but I haven't researched it yet. I think some people with that also have the skin hypersensitivity, so investigating that may give you more info.

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lymeHerx001
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Ive had this for years it gets worse with:

Stress,
Stimulants,
Herxing

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Areneli
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Appreciate the long text, although personally I don't think that magnesium is the cause of the twitching.

Magnesium can perhaps help a little bit symptomatically because it changes (slightly) polarization of neurons making them less jumpy.

Something else must be causing the twitching.

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beachcomber
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I think what Bryan's post was implying is that magnesium helps with the twitching, doen't cause it. Or, did I read it wrong?

Anyway, magnesium definitely helps with muscle twitching and spasms for me after intense exercise, which tends to deplete magnesium, as does Lyme - a double wammy. I take mag citrate (easier on the gut) and also do Epsom Salts baths to allow for mag. to be ansormed through the skin.

My MD says my twitches and spasms are muscle fatigue. He is probably right, as they usually ocurr after working out.

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wrotek
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Muscle twitches are caused ,that is what Marshall Protocol tells ,by elevated 1,25-dihydroxywitaminum-D which is produced by parasitized cells, and it has function to control muscles.
see http://autoimmunityresearch.org/hormones.pdf

This is not magnesium and vitamins ,many people of us been taking suplements and it did not help. When you decrease 1,25-D by MP ,they stop.
Also heparin stops it because its function is decreasing 1,25-D in body.

I thought that this has been explained in this forum many times and still i get here i see the same doubts.

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Areneli
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Right, I still have the same doubts.

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Aniek
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I personally think it's neurological. I have no scientific basis for saying this, but it's the gut I get about the twitching in my own muscles.

I think the twitching has to do with the same thing that can cause severe muscle tightness and myoclonus (larger uncontrollable ticks and jerks) in some Lyme patients. For some reason, I think the signals are getting screwed up. I think it's possible that vitamins and minerals could be a part of that.

But it just feels like there is a message going to the muscle and its not acting on its own.

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CA quest
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I had muscle twitching (fasciculations) for a long time. I interpreted it as a sx of active infection. It always seemed to be worse at rest...and I deemed it to be of neurological origins...but that is only conjecture. I tried Mg for a while but that did not seem to be of use for me. After long term rx (over 5 yrs) I no longer have fasciculations. My Hx: 3 yrs undiagnosed then around 5 + yrs treatment...still do an ocassional course of abx if I get a little flare of what seems to be familiar sx. Quest

[This message has been edited by CA quest (edited 29 May 2005).]

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Nukegirl
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I tried natural calm magnesium powder for awhile and it was of no help to me. I am still twitching alot and yes I find that it is also worse when my body is at rest or tired late at night. My whole body jumps at times, including the muscles in my face, hands and legs. Hopefully in the next couple of months that will slowing fade as the bacteria dies off.

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Areneli
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My educated guess based on observation (increase during herxes, and after antibiotics better pentrating to the brain): it is neurological possibly originated from brain.

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kathiesantomero
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i just want to give you a ray of hope, if i may! i had constant "benign fasciculations" for almost 5 years and then one day, they just went away. it has been two years now since they've stopped.

this used to be one of those symptoms that almost drove me over the edge, as they were a constant reminder of the disease. hang in there - there is hope!!

good luck to you!

kathie

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