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Hi all, Curious....I have read much on this board of rocephin Iv, has anyone had rocephin administered by injection. Currently my son is being treated with 1000mg Biaxin and 100mg amantadine daily but he is to add Rocephine shot tmo. Recent symptoms have been dizziness, gasping for air, goose bumps, sweats, chills, and of course the omnipresent fatigue. Done some detox w glutathione not sure of the effect. If any have experience or knowledge of this type of rocephine administration I would love to hear. By the way I mostly lurk- but this board is a life saver. Thanks to all!
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NP40
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Not sure if I've heard of rocephin injections ? It's a common abx used for lyme treatment. Keep an eye on the gall bladder though, rocephin can make it sludgy.
Perhaps, of bigger concern is the fact that your son manifests classic babesia symptoms. Gasping for air, sweats/chills ? Classic stuff, so hopefully their going to treat this as well ?
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People on this board discuss biaxin so frequently, it must have done some good for people. I honestly found some other abx to be stronger, however, especially when used in combinations. As you continue to lurk, you will get a lot of insight into the many choices available to you.
I think when people write about injecting rocephin, they mean that they are mixing it with saline at home and injecting it into a picc line, or tube, already inserted in their arms. This can save patients a lot of money, as they don't have to visit a doctor's office every day or purchase extra medical equipment like bags of saline solution.
But this is also a very risky way of taking rocephin, because if you inject it too quickly--which in this case means under two hours for just one syringe full--you can do a lot of harm. Taking rocephin at too high a strength can be life threatening. If you decide to go this route, it might be worthwhile to get a demonstration at a hospital on how to administer the drug.
A cheaper way to try and get glutathione levels up is to take two supplements, phosphatidylcholine and N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) that you can get at health food stores. These might give you some of the same effect.
NP40 is right on target about the babesia symptoms. The current theory is that you can't recover from Lyme until you have treated babesia, and my experience definitely confirms this idea. A good way to test for babesia is to take artemisinin for a week, and see if it causes a herx. You can then tell an LLMD the results, as an argument for prescribing mepron and ketek based on clinical symptoms.
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Lymeguy, Rocephin can be given via intramuscular route. In fact it is frequently used this way for ear infections in children, bronchitis, and other infections. I have used it this way. It pretty much has to be given in the butt. Apparently it is not effective for strep. Anyway,it can be mixed with bacteriostatic water but it is caustic and PAINFUll done this way (and I'm generally very detached from the discomfort of needles). This would be hard on a child. However, it is more commonly mixed with 1% Lidocaine, rather than water, and that way you basically feel the stick but not the introduction of the medicine itself, which is what really stings. So, mixed with Lidocaine, it is not bad at all. Also, using Lidocaine greatly reduces subsequent soreness. It seems to me that if your son is alright with this, getting intramuscular injections could really be a lot better than through IV. This way, his activities would not be limited by a catheter and he can swim, shower, play sports, sweat, and get dirty without danger of an IV site infection. I hope this intervention is tolerable and really helps yur son. David
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Yes, Rocephin can be done as an indictable very safely at home after you are given a little bit of training in the doctors office. Many have used it for many months at a time. A search would bring up a lot of posts and experiences on this. Our daughter has done it this way.
Good luck....lightfoot
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Thanks David and Lightfoot. He recieved the intramuscular shot of rocephin today unfortunately w/o the lidocaine or appropiate dilution and it was incredibly painful. We are taking these 2x a week and next time will treat differently more to ur suggestion i am sure. As I am sure you know 3 hour into the blood stream got mild herx but things settled down.
What is your thought of the combination of a macrolide (Biaxin) with 3rd gen cephalosporins (rocephin). I understand the low molecular weight of Biaxin and its action of a bacteriocidal but what is rocephin? Is bacteriostatic? Does it posses other attributs? In other words is it complimentery to Biaxin? What do you think? Thanks to all for any thoughts on this.
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DEMAND the Lidocaine. Convenience packages of Rocephin include it and there is no reason not to use it. It will make things at least 90% better. Good luck to you both. David
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