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I believe it has a connection, cause no drugs have helped these people I have family and friends who have this and are up and down with medicines
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I think that some tick borne illnesses can *look* like bipolar disorder, definitely.
My sister thought that she was bipolar. Doc put her on psych meds and it did not help (may have made it worse, even).
We found out that she has Lyme (very high Bowen titer - 1:128) and is dealing with systemic yeast overgrowth as well - a very bad combination that can make you "go off" in directions that you end up apologizing for later.
I think that with proper treatment, a lot of crazy people wouldn't be so crazy, you know?
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Denise, go to Treepatrol's newbie link and look at 300 OTHER illnesses mimic lyme. Look for bipolar & click on it for links galore from NIH & citations.
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Bipolar and Lyme...very interesting combo. I am bipolar and have Lyme. My therapist and I have decided to stop psych meds until I see Dr C in July as Lyme can cause psych symptoms. I have tried many psych meds for bi-polar, and they make me sick and worse. I am so thankful that my therapist is learning about this Lyme and how it effects the brain. I say that in my case Lyme does effect the bi-polar, panic and anxiety attacks..most definietely. It has been a long journey for me.
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If you developed this AFTER you contracted lyme, and/or other co-infections, then the mood swings, at least in part, could be related to thyroid dysfunction caused by lyme.
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was dx and treated last week for bipolar from chronic lyme disease. my genral depression took a turn to severe mood swings and the psychiatist but me on meds for bipolar. don't know if they work only been on for sevral days but seem calmer, without any undue side effects. chronic neuro lyme can go into bipolar disorder and is not uncommon. think about the old kings that died of syphillus the other spirocete, guess what they all went chronic stage 3 and went crazy many killed themselves. this is not to scare you but treatment is necessary, and nobody goes to stage 3 syphillus anymore due to abx.
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quote:Originally posted by docdave130: was dx and treated last week for bipolar from chronic lyme disease. my genral depression took a turn to severe mood swings and the psychiatist but me on meds for bipolar. don't know if they work only been on for sevral days but seem calmer, without any undue side effects. chronic neuro lyme can go into bipolar disorder and is not uncommon. think about the old kings that died of syphillus the other spirocete, guess what they all went chronic stage 3 and went crazy many killed themselves. this is not to scare you but treatment is necessary, and nobody goes to stage 3 syphillus anymore due to abx.
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There is a very specific criteria to meet the diagnosis of Bipolar, otherwise known as manic/depressive. The reason the criteria is specific is the modality of treatment.
Treatment for Bipolar is NOTTTT the same as it is for depression, infact putting someone on an antidepressant for depression can trigger Bipolar episodes.
Example: there are no manic episodes with Clinical Depression, there is with Bipolar. Mania deals with lessened sleep, less eating and a state of hyperimportance. Many times sensitivity to light. {far more than us with Lyme}
I have no doubt that Lyme has the potential to do almost anything to our bodies and minds, but be very careful with your dianosis and treatment.
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I think the difference is that we (lymies) are aware that this behavior or mood swing disturbs us. We are bothered by it and are able to see that this is completely out of character. I am not certain that someone with b-p is fully aware of the change and the behavior and affect on others or themselves.
If lyme has this effect on a person--not previously diagnosed with b-p or with a genetic pre-disposition b-p, I would imagine that this flux in mood and personality is increased on someone previously diagnosed with bi-polar or manic/depression. I know that docs frequently have to monitor people with b-p for medication and toxicity.
The toxins from any drug will make you feel out of it.
Those with BP do not recognize that they are in a depressive or manic stage, especially the later, manic.
They see the world thru a lens of selfimportance during that time. Only after, do they see [and not totally} how out of character their behavior and thoughts have been. Durinmg a manic phase everything they do feels OK.
Bipolar affacts the brain differently than does depression. That is why it is so important to have the correct diagnosis and not treat BP with SSRI's/antidepressants.
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Have not read it, but there is a book called, "Too Good to be True? Nutrients Quiet the Unquiet Brain: A Four Generation Bipolar Odyssey"
I think either the author or his father or the son (I'm a little confused today myself) had both Bipolar and Lyme disease. The author is David Moyer and the ISBN is 0971799008
You can do a search inside the book at Amazon.com
Hope this helps
Bea Seibert
I think LymeInfo.net has a link to this book on their booklist.
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