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I am starting into my third week of Doxy 400 mg a day .
I have also been on Nystatin for a couple of days.
I wondered if anyone experienced getting depressed when they were starting treatment? I can't take much of it. I feel that things just don't matter and I don't want to start on any antidepressants if I can stay off them. Please let me know.
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You said you started nystatin a few days ago. Depression could be from herxing or from yeast die off. Try to get thru it or if it's too much you might ask your doc if you could take a day or two off meds. Sometimes i take a 2 day break when I can't take it anymore.
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S, from our experiences with our daughter, I can definitely say YES..It is my first indication that she is herxing..But she has suicidal depression intertwined with lyme, co-infections and diabetes and they all feed of of each other.It is always confusing..
I worry about the psych drugs and we have slowly weened off of most of them..And I hope to soon be off all but the occasional valium.
There is also a definite cycle that is montly, the week before the full moon.
I would research some good alternatives that might help with depression..They may have less side effects, but if you are not able to shake this, you will neeed to get to a professional..Do not put it off..THis can be very dangerous.. YOu do not want to let the bugs win..
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Depression has been a long battle for me. I have not been depressed in several months, but I do take Neurontin for anxiety and the spacy feeling and it has helped more than anything I have taken.
I have not taken any antidepressants for about a year. I know my LLD would say to back off the meds. That was part of his instructios it is just today I woke up feeling it starting up bad. I just need to know if this is any type of herxing. That others have felt. I don't want to start any other drugs so if I can not let this get the best of me. I use to could tell with my hormones things would be cyclic more but I don't have periods now. Things still seem to be in cycles. I know that the fatty acids can help but this is a little different because my energy is more low. I take a small stimulant now just to get up out of bed. Sometimes things are so discouraging. I have had this for 20 years and never knew it until dec. I guess that is a sorry for myself. Thanks, Suttles
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There is a correlation of OCD behavior(obsessive compulsive disorder) with lyme. OCD is generally a way of living with depression as YOU know it. I take zoloft for OCD behavior from years ago. It has assisted me, along with therapy and maturity, in handling depression and compulsion in a "real life" way... not in a harmful way.
However, when the lyme symptoms come, I'm very hard on myself and constantly question myself as to whether I'm being psychosymptomatic or am I really feeling this pain or this change in mentality. (You can be your own worst enemy... right?)
When I started feeling seriously ADD or Bi-Polar I knew that I had to get treatment for lyme. or get treatment for something. I'm doing 300mg doxy--100 in a.m. w/zoloft (150) 250mg Zithro at lunch and another 200mg doxy p.m.
I have been herxing since Jan with doxy every month with flu-like nausea and fatigue. It makes me depressed because I always forget that it's coming. but the attack creates a lot of anxiety.
Yes, I would say depression is definitely part of having the lyme, not only the medication.
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YES! My first herx put me into a bad depression. I've noticed I kind of freak out when I herx. Crying, thinking I'll never get well, that I have to quit my job. Then I get better and think how silly I was. Now I just try to stay calm during any herxing.
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When does it end? How long has it taken to be through all the ups and downs?
I know that is an imposabable question. But how can you keep from being so discouraged when you get through one herx and then better and another.
It is so hard to think there is light at the end of the tunnel. I use to always being doing everything that came along for the CFID and something new always seem to give the next hope. But this has been 20 years. It gets harder and harder. The only thing I can say that helps is I never knew I had lyme. I do know I have it not just by the clinicaly diagnosis but the western blot results. But with this being so long and seeing how there is no cure just a remission. I am so sorry for whinning and I don't want anyone else to be dragged down by my attitude. Thanks, Suttles
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It sounds like your a bit depressed now. I know what your asking- When does it end? I think everyone thinks this on a daily basis. I'm not sure it ever will so I just deal with it. I used to cry a lot when I thought about it effecting my son's life, but then I thought what if I had never found out?
Isn't it a relief though to know you are right? That there is actually something wrong and that those doctors who said you were fine or had something else are wrong?
At least you know. You also now know that there are a lot of other sick people out there just like yourself. I have friends here that have Lyme so it helps for the support.
You wil get through the depression. Its not easy but you can do it.
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Yes, You are very right. I am glad I found out. I do have proof that there is a reason.
It is of some comfort to know that I am not the only one. But the other part of is now is there going to be a better life. I know that is not a question that anyone can answer. But do people ever get to where they can have half there life back? Thanks for listening. Suttles
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it will be best for you and at least your spouse to seek and pyscologist and you a psychiatrist. the depression is from cental nervous system interaction with the breaking down of the bacteria and the formation of toxins in your system. This is what herxing is, and has many side effects and evrybody different. i've been thru this for 8 years of depression and been on many antidepressants before they knew it was lyme and many after they knew. i am presently also on zoloft 100 mg for 3 years and don't have the severe depression that i had in the past. mild depression can cure itself, most lyme depression changes the chemicals ie norepinephrine in your brain and changes the flow of electrical charges in the brain from there normal pattern. Once the chemicals are changed, then only medication can get you better nothing else, its strictly chemical. IT IS IMPORTANT TO TALK TO A THERAPIST BECAUSE IT IS EXTREMELY HARD FOR THE SPOUSE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE GOING THRU AND THEY MUST UNDERSTAND IT IS A REAL DISEASE, YOU ARE SICK, JUST LIKE PNEUMONIA, AND YOU MUST BE TREATED.MY WIFE FELT I WAS CRAZY FOR 6 YEARS EVEN WITH THERAPY AND DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT I WAS REALLY SICK UNTIL I THE GOVERNMENT SAID I WAS SICK AND GAVE ME SSDIS. ITS HARD TO EXPLAIN TO SOMEBODY THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANY SYMPTOMS AND THEY DON'T AND CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR BODY IS GOING THRU. THERAPY DEFINITELY HELPS AND SHOULD BE USED BY MOST PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPOUSES AND HAVE LYME DISEASE. start early on the antidepressants and the brain chemistry will normnalize much quicker then if you let it go until you want to commit suicide. seek treatment early you'll feel much better
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Bicillin makes me go from suicidal depression, to rage, to fear and the cycle repeats. It starts just after injecting, builds in intensity over two days, then starts to die down. Two days before my next shot I feel pretty good, but then I have to inject and start all over again.
I think its a herx because I am getting better and the herxing symptoms are lessening. So the cycle is repeating but growing less in intensity every time.
An aside, levaquin made me seriously manic.
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I can see why levaquin....a bartonella abx, would cause more symptoms psychologically.
I was the same way years ago when I was first put on it and steroids for sinus problems.
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I have babesia, Lyme and Bartonella. I have had manic episodes, severe depression, obsessive traits and debilitating anxiety.
What kind of psych symptoms go along with babesia and bartonella? I never find much info. on the psych symptoms associated with these diseases. Can anyone point me to any info. about these?
Thanks.
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My LLMD said that depression is a symptom of babesia. From personal experience I would say that deep dark depression is one of the main symptoms of babesia.
From other posts anxiety and maniac depression can be a symptom of bartonella.
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Suttles : Do NOT try to be John Wayne and ride out the depression. Your brain chemistry is telling you it needs help .
I have inherited depression ( before lyme ) and it is usually under control with either zoloft or prozac .
That said , my spirits do nosedive when the herx is full force and I shutter to think how long I would survive the dark moods w/o meds . I truly believe the herxing INTENSIFIES depression .
I am grateful for zoloft and prozac, and taking a little pill is a small price to pay for a decent outlook on the world and my life.
Do not forget that depression not only affects you ; it affects those who are part of your daily life - family and coworkers .
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Wow I never knew there was an OCD associated with lyme. Recently, there has been a lot on tv like MTV and shows that I as a 22 year watch about these disorders.
I can remember around 12 (when actually we think I was bit) counting everything. I never really told anyone about this, but I used to count every line that we crossed over or every crack on the street that we passed or ever sign that I saw. I just thought I must be really bord, but I had this uncontrollable urge to count especially when walking or in the car.
I never really let it go further than that, but in a werid way it made me happy to count and I would randomly stop and start over if we can to a stop or red light or something. This is actually the first time I have ever mentioned it to anyone-perhaps because I knew it was a little strange, just like the high pitched ringing in my ears.
I also am either REALLY clean or REALLY messy. Not really an inbetween.
But ne wayz back to your post-I notice that when I am herxing or relapsing, I get depressed.
I forget when I am good how hard it is when I am sick, it's almost like I block out all the bad and until I experience again and then I am devasted.
I seriously considered going on anti-depressants for this disease because at times it can be so tough. However, I went on them 2 years ago and I had a horrible horrible experience, so I am very leary to go back on them.
I think I am going to start therapy soon though just to work things out. If I could I would send myself to a place for 6 months to just get better, work on self esteem, and learn how to think the right way.
Being 22 and going through 5 surgies,being called bulimic, a "typical college girl with issue," virtigo, shingles, mono, severe acne 2x, etc etc-I kinda don't think of myself as "normal." But those programs are expensive so one day when I am rich I will send myself so that I can be the best I can be and give back to everyone whom has given so much to me!
Good luck and remember that life doesn't give you challanges, you can't handle! but medicine should does help!
Lindsay
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Toxins are building in the brain and that can depress you.I get depressed but 99% of the time I have a reason I do a lot of praying or talking to God asking for help and he does. Medications can cause it also all by there self let alone the lyme hormones too which Lyme is a SYSTEM WIDE ATTACK where ever you are the weakest thats where it shows up first in my case it started with cramps progressed to acheing then sore muscles then tingling then eyes went bad, thenjoint pain then tendons tearing.
Dont give up about 90% iam guessing here have hormonal problems taking synthroid etc,thyroid,pituatary,etc problems, adrenals.
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kelmo
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Yes, OCD and all the above you mentioned have been part of my daughter's experience. She is on several medications. One for depression, then a handful of different ones to sleep. She has night terrors and racing thoughts.
I don't know if it's a symptoms of one specific bacteria, she only tests pos for bart, but I don't think that's the only bacteria that causes it.
I seem to come back to this old song...but if you have thyroid, adrenal, hormonal problems, a good bio-identical progesterone cream is really helpful. Progesterone actually resides in the brain, it sheaths the nerves, and helps to balance all the other hormones. It also cleanses the body of dead cells.
Take care Kelly
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