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Jellybelly
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This is a really good one, came out 2003. It seems pretty well know that we seem to be deficiant in Magnesium. I never really understood what that means exactly as to how that affects our health.

I was at B&N looking for "From Fatigued to Fantastic". I ended up in the wrong section and I ran into "The Miracle of Magnesium" by Carolyn Dean, M.D., N.D.. VERY enlightening, a book not to be missed.

One intersting thing it says is that there is a correspondence between Type A personalities and magnesium deficency. I find that fascinating because there are so many Type A's that get this DD. This type of behavior drains the body of magnesium.

Magnesium is involved in 100's of enzyme processes affecting every aspect of life. There are 325 enzymes dependent on magnesium, many of which are energy creators. Without Magnesium there is No energy, No movement, No life.

We have become absessed with Calcium and without Magnesium the excess can't be shed and accumulates in the muscles everywhere, almost literally calcifying them. Could this explain the stiffness to a certain degree? Magnesium is a muscle relaxer.

Growth of cells, cell division is absolutely dependent on the avilability of magnesium.

Magnesium deficency can cause anxiety, depression, muscle weakness, fatigue, insomnia, poor memory, confusion, nervousness AND rapid pulse. that's just a tiny piece of the lists of things it can cause.

Seratonin levels are dependent on Magnesium and it supports our shot adrenal glands.

Did you know that SOY in any form inhibits the absorption of magnesium as well as most minerals. Also a low carb diet is very deficient in magnesium. Magnesium should definetly be supplemented.

This is all in the first 35 pages of this book. There is a chapter on FM and CFS. It also covers a zillion other problems the plague us.

This is way at the top of my book list now. You really need to get it and understand magnesium. It is even more important then the enzymes, cuz without magnesium, the enzymes are almost useless:}


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Jellybelly
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More Facts About Magnesium

This info is again from the new book I recommended "The Miracle of Magnesium".

Did you know that Magnesium has some very intersting blood thinning properties? This is talking about migraines. When Magnesium is low, it is unable to do it's job to counteract the clotting action of calcium on the blood. Tiny blood clots are said to clog up tiny brain blood vessels, leading to migraines. Several other substances that help create blood clots are increased when magnesium is low. (Micro-clots is a better word to describe the clotting issue of hypercoagulation)

Low magnesium promotes neurotransmitter HYPERACTIVITY and nerve EXCIATION that can lead to headaches. This could fit all of the buzzing our bodies do.

Magnesium relaxes blood vessels and allows them to dilate, reducing the spasms and constrictions that can cause migraines.

As I said above magnesium thins the blood, somewhat like aspirin, preventing the fromation of tiny clots that can block blood vessels and cause pain.

Magnesium relaxes the muscles and prevents the build up of lactic acid. I think lactic acid is what causes the muscles to be sore after excercise.

It is VITAL with treating heart condidtions.

Homocysteine is a normal by product of protien digestion, which in elevated amounts causes oxidized cholesterol, which damages blood vessels. For certain individuals who lack specific enzymes for protien digestion (which takes us back to need for digestive enzymes), homecysteine can become a real problem. 20-40% of the general population have elevated homocysteine and this puts you at a 4 times greater risk of heart attack. The enzymes involved in homocysteine metabolism are magnesium-DEPENDANT.

If you still haven't gotten a hold of a copy of this book, you are really missing some amazing info that so important to our improved health:}


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Jellybelly
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The thing about Magnesium, is you can literally be flushing "it" and your money down the toilet. In this case, cheapest isn't the best. I have 3 primary supplements that I stick to, they aren't cheap, but they are well worth the money. One of them is Magnesium Glycinate, it is the VERY BEST all the way around.
http://www.geocities.com/GuaiWhey/Mg1.htm

BEST
Mg-glycinate = best absorbed , famous for sedation , sweet taste , @ @ , 10% Mg
Mg-malate = easily absorbed , famous for energy and fibromyalgia pain , cheap , tolerable bad taste @ , @cheapest
..... be careful what you wish for (sedation/energy) , you may get it.
...........energy includes nervous energy
Mg-gluconate = easily absorbed
Mg-carbonate = easily absorbed
Mg-salicylate = Doan's pills
Mg-sulfate = epsom salt , mild laxitive
Mg-citrate = famous for vulvodynia , mild laxitive
Mg-hydroxide = milk of magnesia , antacid , mild laxitive
Mg-chloride = probably laxitive due to hypochlorhydra
Mg-oxide = poorly absorbed , very strong laxitive , cheapest , found in all drug stores
WORST


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Thanks so much, Jelly!

I love this info about Mag. I know that a poster named Marnie has posted loads of great material on here about the imporatance of mag - but I never seem to be at the place where I can understand it all.

Marnie mentions to add B-6 with the mag (altho I can't remember why - I've been doing it anyway) - does the book say anything about B6?

I've got a great idea, Jelly - since it may be some time before I can get out and climb the ridiculous stairs that lead to MY local B&N - why don't you just READ the book for us - & continue to give us the facts?!!!

Also - thanks so much for the breakdown of good/not so good mag - as it seems that I've been taking loads of the 'no-so-good mag' and that's WHY it's not making the difference I would expect it to make!

Thanks again!!

Blessings,

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DR. Wiseass - not a real doc - just a real wise ass.
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Jellybelly
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How about this? Go to Amazon.com and you can order a copy. You can even get a used copy starting at $8.65. If the link I am giving doesn't work do a search under Carolyn Dean, it will come up.

I don't know about the B6. I actually read this book about 2 years ago. This post is actually some stuff I posted on my website a long time ago. I figured since there had been a bit of discussion on Magnesium dosing and types, I would bring that info over here.

Dr. Dean's book is really pretty light reading, easy to understand. It has been very useful to me, and I can't recommend it enough.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345445880/qid=1117484882/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/103-3888158-0223010?v=glance&s=books&n=507846


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What about a product called Calm? I used to take this form of magnesium but I can't find it around here anymore. What type of magnesium does it contain?

Nancy


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Jelly,
I use magnesium glycinate also, but I got a
better price on that brand at iHerb.com.

High Absorption Magnesium with Bioperine,
Doctor's Best, 120 Tabs, for $10.00.
http://store.yahoo.com/iherb/magnesium4.html

There is a discount at the checkout, and free shipping.

Nal, look up that product at iHerb, you might
be able to find it there.

Carol


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This is helpful. I do have Super Mag which contains several form of magnesium in it. I realy like the Calm but it is very hard to find-its the one my holistic dr recommends the most. However ordering it is more expensive and I can't really afford that.

Nancy


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The book I mentioned also recommends taking the Mag on an empty stomach, if your stomach can handle it.

I also learned when researching a cancer treatment in Germany, that they use large amounts of Mag in a liquid form just before treatments every morning. It is supposed to make everything they do, work better. They have very high success rates and are able to use less chemo along with hyperthermia. The Mag is a VERY key ingrediant.

From what I have read above, I may consider adding another form of Mag to my glycinate.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jellybelly:

However, researchers were startled to learn that Lyme Disease is unique in that it uses Mg instead of iron, thus depleting the body's supply of Mg. The result is typically a mild to severe magnesium deficiency syndrome in most or all Lyme Disease sufferers.

Lyme uses manganese, not magnesium, not iron (although babesia would), I think people being depleted in magnesium is an indirect result of Lyme

Nelly


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Hi Nelly

Did I post that? I don't think I did, but I would like to see info on what you say. The Lyme/magnesium stuff is all new to me, but interesting.


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I just read that celery is an excellent source of magnesium.


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I"ve always done the slowmag tabs (2) a day that dr. B recoommends because it delivers a little magnesium over the whole day...slowly releasing it 24/7 ,along with the pharmanex womens' vitamen pak and 50 mg of vit b , and (2) omega 3 and (2) omega 6 every day...have felt great on this protocol...


Lisa

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Carolyn (Dean) MD and I are on a first name basis and email each other every so often.

She and George Eby (author of a huge Mg website and developer of zinc lozenges) have been a big help providing essential documented research to help my research.

I have purchased at least 30 of her paperbacks and have given them to others.

On a chart in our family doctor's office is a list of vitamins and minerals and their deficiency symptoms. The chart indicates which nutrients are less or more likely to be deficient.

Mg is the ONLY one that is VERY COMMON.

When this disease hits, many are already in trouble.

Jellybelly, find my Updated Nutshell post and print it out. Study it until it "clicks".

Everything falls into place. This pathogen hits the Mg levels fast and it spirals down very quickly.

Keep in mind...ALL the vitamins and minerals work TOGETHER. Throw one off...big problems, throw off any others...disaster.

Recently, Bruce Ames is looking for a solution to mitochondrial damage (aging and disease harm the powerhouses of our cells).

We are constantly fighting germs, some good, many bad. They take from us our nutrients. To stay healthy, we must have enough nutrients for ourselves AND in order to fight them.

Restore the balance to heal. Not easy!!!

Enzymes are proteins, so are hormones...and somewhere along the way...Mg is needed to make them (along with the are needed to make ALL proteins (mdschoice website referenced).

Not enough in slow Mg. Look closely at the dosage on the bottle.

Yesterday...Web MD (I subscribe - free - to this website that reports the "latest" research) to treat migraines...Mg, Vitamin B2 (whoa, large doses, correct???), and CoQ10. Buried in the info...B2 helps with diarrhea issues. And in my nutritional guide (one of many ;-) B2 also needed (+ other nutrients) to convert tryptopan to serotonin.

The vitamins and minerals all work TOGETHER...Missing enough of one...watch out!

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between the two slowmagtabs and the mag. I get from my multivits every day it's more than enough for me. Anymore and it makes me sick..i've tried it ...this is the perfect amount for me. I had to work at finally finding hte just the right amount so I didnt' herx at all, and finally found it after months of trying...

now I feel great!

Lisa


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