SunRa
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Hi Marnie, not sure if you are posting here anymore. But I remember you saying something about blueberries and how they can make you flare or herx (?). Hopefully I'm right and not just completely crazy.
major flare in sx today including brain swelling. I'm not on abx but it feels like my abx herxes. Then I remembered I ate a TON of blueberries yesterday. (and this isnt a yeast thing for me) hmmm...
search function isnt working for me. Anyone know more info?
Tincup
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Just sneaking in real quick to say hey to SunRa...
And another howdy to our friend Marnie!
As for the blueberries..
My best advise would be...
If they make you sick... don't eat them.
Funny you should mention blueberries. When I was tested for allergies with the Great Smokey Diagnostic Lab tests.. and had 58 of them...
The worst reaction I had was to blueberries.
???
Kinda weird.. cause I have no clue why that happened. I didn't eat them regularly.. like the other foods I tested positive for.
Since addressing the leaky gut.. I have added back all the foods EXCEPT blueberries. Some little voice keeps telling me.. you DON'T need them.. walk on by!
Yes.. I wish I had an answer for you tonight.. but I think that is best to be left to the expert.
SunRa
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hey TC! good to see you
Yes, I am definitely staying away from blueberries for right now until I figure this out. Its just weird b/c I react to many foods, but not with these particular sx.
Interesting about your allergy panel. Youre a strong woman passing up the blueberries. I just might have to find a different blue food to eat - I need all my colors LOL Any suggestions?
lla2
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blueberrys are a strong antioxident..when I used to put them in my smoothies , within hours I used to get a herx...it would bring on all my lyme sysptoms, absolutley!
they're so good for you though...take them..just take htem slow..and small amounts..
Lisa
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Tincup -- how did you address your leaky gut? I have been having "malabsorption"non-stop for 4 months -- was told my my recent LLMD that with no carb, no sugar, no dairy, I could eat fruit -- berries mainly. I started back on blueberries and strawberries since last week and started flagyl and zithromax together. Stomach seems worse -- still not digesting my food even with all of the supplements and enzymes. Why are blueberries bad? And, how did you address the leaky gut (after how long did you see improvement?
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Foggy
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Ah, no wonder why. I've been having a bunch in my ceral and wow, they stir it up something fierce. It's a tasy herx...
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Marnie
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Yes, blueberries (eating lots) seem to cause a major herx. They are high in tannins.
Toxins are acidic...detoxing, getting rid of the neg. charges (esp. the free radicals) is needed. Can do this (it appears) by taking other alkaline things..minerals/glycogen (to react with the neg. charges) or doing things that ABSORB the toxins (careful though that other nutrients aren't impacted).
Have you ever tried CoQ10? Unfortunately, it's not cheap. Brain impacted likely due to glutamate problem which is impacted due to CoQ10 issues.
Isn't the following curious?
Scientists Developing Blueberry Burgers
.c The Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) - Some scientists hope blueberry burgers will be coming to a restaurant, supermarket or school cafeteria near you.
Al Bushway, a food scientist at the University of Maine, says his lab has been stirring blueberry puree or blueberry powder into beef, chicken and turkey patties. The researchers are trying to boost the nutritional value of burgers and help farmers improve their berry sales.
Blueberries add cancer-fighting antioxidants to the patties and may slightly reduce the fat content of burgers.
The Agriculture Department has encouraged researchers to blend fruit with ground meat to make healthier burgers to serve to the 27 million children in the school lunch program.
Bushway hopes the burgers will be a big hit with children who participate in taste tests for the program.
08/02/03 15:00 EDT
Tannin: Substance that dries excess mucus. Bitter-tasting, complex aromatic compounds found in the vacuoles of certain plant cells, for example in bark. Some are
I have not posted/read this board as much lately because we (husband and I) recently returned from a wonderful Mediterranean cruise and I am posting my memories on another board (you know how "chatty" I can be ;-), catching up with house chores and other responsibilities (moving mom from one retirement home to another...long story).
So much to do...so little time.
Leaky gut...loading doses of probiotics are needed. Notice I said LOADING doses. I have posted the specifics of this. Do a search using my name and the word probiotic.
It will take a couple of weeks at least to begin to heal the gut. It is the FIRST step to wellness! One cannot absorb nutrients and make many others if the numbers of beneficial bacteria aren't there.
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I wanted to ask the same question about how Tincup addressed leaky gut. Maybe it should be a separate post?
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SunRa
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lymesux - hey you, thanks for the link. I'm hanging in there, we'll talk soon...
hi Lisa - good to see you too! thanks for the advice.
Marnie - thank you! Very interesting stuff! Funny you mention the CoQ10 - surprisingly its one thing I havent tried yet, but just ordered some the other day. wow, a Mediterranean cruise! I'm jealous!! I really appreciate you taking the time to respond esp since youre so busy. The info was very helpful and confirmed I'm not totally gone yet lol
blueberry burgers?? yummmm I'm actually about to go eat a Buffalo burger right now..but I'm gonna hold on the blueberries for a bit
thanks again
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Do some foods have special powers? Yes, according to Vegetarian Times writer Mark Harris. In the magazine's January 2005 issue, Harris names blueberries, spinach, tea, tomatoes, broccoli, soy and oats as the seven superfoods that are "able to improve our health and extend our lives."
Thanks to their powerful health benefits - and their super-low calorie counts - these seven foods can help add years to your life and subtract pounds. In fact, says Harris, just rotating one "superfoods" dish into your daily diet will make a dramatic difference. Harris explores the science behind the health benefits of this elite group in his article entitled, "Diet 2005: The 7 Superfoods."
Blueberries, says Harris, are memory boosters. In laboratory studies conducted by researcher James Joseph, Ph.D., older rats fed a diet of blueberries not only navigated mazes faster, they also had better balance and coordination - skills regulated by the brain. The research continues in an effort to determine whether blueberries increase human brainpower.
Citing USDA studies that rank blueberries number one in antioxidants, Harris points to their high concentration of anthocyanins - potent antioxidants "that increase communication between aging brain cells, and fend off free radicals." New USDA research also suggests that a compound in blueberries may reduce cholesterol. The compound, pterostilbene, also protects the heart much like resveratrol, the antioxidant found in grapes and red wines. Other benefits of blueberries include prevention of urinary tract infections.
Tip: "Go Wild. The USDA says blueberries from the great outdoors have twice the antioxidant power of their cultivated cousins."
Mark Harris, Vegetarian Times, 2005
How many blueberries should you eat? Harris suggests following the lead of researcher Dr. Joseph who "downs one cup of blueberries daily."
To help readers improve their diets, Vegetarian Times included a number of recipes using the seven superfoods. "Heart-and-Mind-Protecting" Blueberry Oatmeal Muffins, and "Memory-Maintaining" Blueberry-Orange Smoothies, made with fresh or frozen blueberries, were two recipes for getting the brain-boosting power of blueberries into your daily diet.
We make it into a quick icecream by using them frozen in the blender with some organic whipping cream to the consistency of icecream. No, I never had a reaction to it - other than they taste delicious!
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