Wouldn't you know it...I am toolin' along...feeling the best I have in YEARS, and then BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I go down into my basement...laundry room, where my clothes are...long story..if I bring them up, I will expose the rest of the house... and I get a huge wiff of mold!!!

Folks..this is my Nemesis.....major problem.

We can't get out of the house...yet...we are working on it. I am having a massive flare.

Any way....Someone posted something about a nasal spray on here and I had copied that...but lost it.

Please...I am begging you...I am slipping so fast it is incredible....I need this formula so I can get it made up.

Please.

Trout

Looks like you'll have to have one of your kids get your clothes from now on.

I'll try to do a search for you.

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oops!
Lymetutu

or this
glutathione in nebulizer http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/032204.html

I keep having to barf.....aargh.

quote:

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A compounded nasal spray containing 2 percent Nizoral in saline used four times daily with thorough wetting of the nose and nasopharynx is extremely effective.

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This only works, though, if you have an infection. It doesn't do anything for the allergic and toxic reactions that you can also have.

So sorry to hear this. Mold is the pits. Try any of the usual techniques you use to reduce allergic reaction. Be sure to support gut detox, with psyllium, chlorella, whatever works for you. Maybe antihistamines for short term relief? It helps me, sometimes, when I have an acute exposure.

I never did well with the cholestyramine, but some do.

Watch your diet, avoid any fermented foods, cheese, mushrooms, etc, till you get over the worst. Citric acid, which is a "natural" preservative in many foods and vitamins, is a fermented product best to be avoided in an acute exposure.

So sorry! Hope this passes quickly.

By: Doctor Vincent Marinkovich

Introduction

Molds or fungi are everywhere in nature and their wind borne seeds (spores) make up the majority of the microscopic particles in the air at anytime, even when pollen season is at its peak. Their value to the food industry is enormous while their contributions to medicine in the form of antibiotics, vitamins and other drugs is inestimable. But they can cause trouble.

Humans in good health handle typical exposures to molds in the air, in their homes and in their workplaces without much difficulty. However, certain allergy prone individuals may have symptoms during peak mold levels that include asthma, runny nose, sneezing fits and itchy noses and throats.

In the immunologically compromised patients, a single mold spore can initiate a deadly process. Patients on chemotherapy or immune suppression imposed for organ transplantation and those with chronic diseases such as AIDS, recurrent infections, cystic fibrosis and diabetes are also at risk when exposed to molds at levels that healthy individuals can handle.

Exposure to high levels of mold can be a threat to anyone's health--as noticed in certain occupations. These conditions were given names such as farmer's lung, pigeon breeder's disease, malt workers disease, etc. They shared common symptoms, usually involving nose, sinuses and lungs and the consequences were serious, often leading to permanent breathing disorders and death. Over the last 30 years nonoccupational exposures have become recognized as dangerous in homes with moldy air conditioning or humidifiers, homes near composting facilities, and homes with water damage.

Exposure to high levels of fungi can be a health threat from inhalation, ingestion or skin contact involving tiny mold spores (invisible to the eye), mold toxins (mycotoxins) or mold bodies themselves. Initial symptoms seem to be the result of inhalation, such as sore throats, hoarseness, cough and nasal congestion.

With time, symptoms can progress to include headaches, fatigue, rashes, dizziness, shortness of breath, sinus infections, ear pain, muscle and joint pain, and fever. These symptoms are the result of direct mycotoxin exposure and the effects of an over active immune system trying desperately to overcome what it perceives to be an overwhelming infection.

The immune system generates antibodies to the absorbed mold materials (antigens). These antibodies react with the antigens to form immune complexes, which is all part of the body's normal immune elimination function. When the immune clearance machinery is on overload the complexes remain in the bloodstream causing myriad symptoms, known to clinical immunologists as serum sickness, and appearing to the patient as a severe, unrelenting flu syndrome.

Exposure to certain mycotoxins can result in brain damage seen as short-term memory loss, cognitive dysfunction, inability to concentrate and "fuzzy thinking." These changes seem to be reversible, at least in part, but they can take years to resolve.

Once the patient has become hypersensitive to the mold in their environment, they have also become overly reactive to all molds in their life including those they breathe elsewhere, those they eat and those that may be colonizing their tissues. Relief of symptoms can only come with a significant reduction in exposure including a mold free diet, avoidance of mold ridden environments and treatment of mold colonization.

Some mold colonizations are well-known such as athlete's foot, vaginal yeast infections, ringworm, excessive dandruff, toenail fungus, etc. But molds are opportunistic and can become established on any tissue that has been previously damaged. This would include the sinuses of the patient who has had a sinus infection, the lungs of a patient with asthma, the nose of a patient with nasal congestion and the gastrointestinal tract of patients who have had chronic indigestion or abdominal discomfort.

The patient's healthy, reactive immune system can prevent the mold from invading surrounding tissues and causing infection. However, it is not able to remove the mold from the mucosal or skin surfaces. The colonization continues, the patient continues to form immune complexes with the mold antigens, the overload continues in the patient grows sicker. Once there is significant colonization, the symptoms continue even after the patient leaves the moldy workplace, or home when the high exposures occurred.

Diagnosis

The diagnosis of fungal hypersensitivity syndrome rests on three criteria; an identified heavily contaminated source, appropriate symptoms temporally related to exposure, and high serum IgG antibody levels to molds. IgE antibodies are usually not involved and skin tests are, therefore, usually negative.

Specific IgG antibody levels to molds are helpful in supporting the diagnosis of fungal hypersensitivity. Everyone is exposed to some mold and, therefore, some antibody to mold is found in nearly everyone. But the levels are low. Individuals exposed to heavily moldy environments make great amounts of antibody. In mold hypersensitivity patients it is common to find antibodies to molds in class three or class four categories. Occasionally a patient with significant mold problems will present class two antibody levels.

Mold antigens are highly crossed reactive, which means that an antibody response on exposure to mold A may show significant reactivity on the IgG panel test to mold B as well. Sometimes the molds to which the patient shows highest antibody levels are not identified in an environment survey. This reflects the difficulty of getting the mold growing happily on wet sheet rock to grow on an agar culture dish.

Therapy

Therapy is based on avoidance. The contaminated environment must be remediated or abandoned, a mold free diet is very helpful, and colonization must be eliminated by the appropriate use of antifungals. The most common colonization sites are the nose, nasopharynx and esophagus.

A compounded nasal spray containing 2 percent Nizoral in saline used four times daily with thorough wetting of the nose and nasopharynx is extremely effective. For colonization of lungs or sinuses, Sporanox at 200-400 milligrams per day is useful.

For primarily gastrointestinal symptoms, miconazole or econazole in 250 mg capsules can be very effective. This is given twice daily. If Candida antibodies are highest, Candida may be the offending organism. Nystatin capsules (as 500,000 u) are helpful given one million units three times daily.

All use of antifungals can evoke a flulike Herxheimer reaction in the hypersensitive patient at the initiation of therapy. This is presumed to be due to massive die off of the colonizing fungi with an overloading release of fungal antigens and toxins onto the mucosal surface.

To prevent such flulike reactions therapy should begin at a quarter to an eighth the final dose and advanced, as tolerated, over a two to four-week period. Once therapeutic doses are achieved, treatment needs to continue for six months or more although the patient will report symptoms reduction after a few weeks. The need for prolonged therapy is presumed to be due to the presence of fungal spores that cannot be killed until they germinate.

Conclusion

The diagnosis of fungal hypersensitivity is difficult for most physicians because mycology is not a strong subject in medical school. Most colonizations are not life-threatening and such conditions as athlete's foot and yeast vaginitis are often self treated with over-the-counter medications. At the other extreme are the life-threatening fungal infections in the immune compromised patient, which are usually treated by oncologists with help from infectious disease specialists.

In this article fungal hypersensitivity and colonization is occurring in healthy individuals who have been exposed to excessive fungal contamination in their homes or workplaces. They experience symptoms, which are usually attributed to viruses such as an upper respiratory tract infection or the flu. As time goes by and the symptoms persist, the patient may come to realize the basic problem is heavy fungal exposure from having read about someone else's affliction in the newspaper or magazine. It now because the physician to recognize the problem and know what to do to help his/her patients.

Copyright 2002 by Vincent Marinkovich

and/or

Take a piece of the "mold" to your local naturopath who can make a homepathic of it in a minute in their wavefront or other way;

and/or

Have your ART person desensitize you for your particular problem, which is also done in less than five minutes;

and/or

learn how to make a homeopathic of the mold yourself with a little laser light, etc. There is a variety of ways to do it, and it is easier than making good scrambled eggs;

and/or try

the Xylitol spray that I have made and used umpteen times or buy one at the healthfood store (need saline, a little distilled water, grapefruit seed extract (a few drops), and a little of the sugar Xylitol.
I posted about it numerous times. It works like a charm to clear out the ear/nose/throat region. I will get the recipe out of my pantry if you want it;

and/or

use the KMT22 or the KMT240 which has xillions of mold and fungi on it - you cannot have possibly have all of them in your house. It's not a rife - so no herx that puts you under

..........if I can think of some more, I will come back............

Take care.

and/or

up measurably your organic sulfur intake, such as MSM - discussed on board yesterday I think.......

Gigi,
I have been using Xylitol for two months now...I purchase it.
River,

Great info...thanks.

Trout

It helps to clear the system. Sorry about the mold...it s--ks.

Very good stuff...my problem...I know that this crap is SO systemic that it comes down from my sinuses and then coats everything....tongue, throat, intestines...in fact when I brush my tongue with H2O2/Watr.....my whole system hurts..I remember feeling the 'roots' when they were establishing themselves back when I was on Levaquin/Steroids...

I now KNOW what it was...I was describe it as "HOOKS" being dug into my body.

You must get a unit that has a Corona Discharge element, not the UV light unit, they are too weak.

Look on the internet, if you have a problem, let me know, I can find it. A good one is 350.00 plus, but if you get the cheap ones, they do not work well enough.

Leave it on, in your basement for, a week, then keep it on and get a fan, to evacuate the air.

Some have a two fan settings, low and high, use high for two weeks, then low, constantly.Ozone is O3 and the best known oxidizer and kills mold, bacteria, and viruses.

It will not hurt ,your lungs, unless you put it into a small closet, on high, for a few days, then go into closet and shut the door.

It takes a lot to cause a lung problem.If it is working, you will be able to smell the sweet smell of ozone.

The most common use is to purify water. It is not readily available to purify air, because it can be abused and most people hear about Ozone being bad, it is a misconception.

I had mold in the wall of a bathroom. Opened up the wall, took staight Bleach and wiped it all down [ with a mask on] put a plastic tent around it, put the ozonator in the tent and let run for a month.

All mold gone, closed up the sheet rock, and no problem.

A mold elimination Company was going to charge 3000.00 to eliminate the mold.

I make water purification units, for the Military. We use chlorine for basic, purification. But, if we add on an Ozonator, it uses 20% of the chlorine required, without the O3.

The half life of Ozone is 20min. That is why chlorine must be used, also, so there is residual oxidizer left in the water.

Municipalities use O3 for much of the purification, now. In Europe, it is the primary disinfectant.

Chlorine, can be carcinogenic, if too much is ingested over a long period of time. Fluoride is very bad for sick people, especially.

It is OK in tooth paste, if you wash well and do not swallow it. Rinse three time, before swollowing.

Get a good water filter, to take out chlorine and Flouride. City water is disinfected, but the residual chemicals are not good for you, filter them out.

Yes I have a Living Air Model ozone machine...thanks.

This stuff is everywhere...I have no where to go. Mainly in the laundry room....but the exterior walls also have it around the windows..hey opena window for fresh air.....and have more mold actually get 'airborne'. lol

Foggy,

I am also on CSM...just s started it again in fact.

I did rife this am and basically stood right in front of the darn thing.....which may caused things to flare up.

Thanks Ya'll

Kent

Thanks...in fact I KNOW that this is the reason I am relapsing...happened last year, too.

I have removed more, and more linoleum tiles in our laundry area.

Have the Ozone machine on "blow-Out" ...highest mode...our basement got dampened after a backed up drainage to the a/c went bad.

OOOOOOPS.

Dr C wants a Formula for this....can anyone e-mail me the formula from their Docotr for compounding?