He cited a study (I can't remember the name of the journal, so obviously I still have Lyme brain) done on MS patients whose main complaint was fatigue.

One-third got placebos, one-third got a drug used for narcolepsy and MS, and one-third took 81 mg of enteric coated aspirin per day.

Those who took the aspirin reported less fatigue. Aspirin would fight the cytokines that give an immune response, would relieve inflammation and thin the blood to get nutrients and medicines around.

BTW --- I think it was Dr. J who said that there is no such thing as autoimmune disease. That the bacteria hides inside the cell and it only appears that the immune system is attacking itself, when actually its attacking whats inside the cell.

The ISAC panel (Immune System Activation of Clotting) panel is not the normal PTT (Prothrombin time) clotting test done by standard labs.

Hemex Labs performs the ISAC test panel. http://www.hemax.com

Heparin (sublingual or subcutaneous injections -- by prescription), Nattokinase or Lumbrokinase (both are nutritional supplements) all work to try to improve coagulation.

Aspirin will help thin the blood as will many other things such as Vitamin E, gingko, and I know there are others I am forgetting.
But in my opinion, these treatments do not work to break up the fibrin or maybe it is fibrinogen -- I forget which -- in the same way as the items on the first list.

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Originally posted by seibertneurolyme:
Heparin (sublingual or subcutaneous injections -- by prescription), Nattokinase or Lumbrokinase (both are nutritional supplements) all work to try to improve coagulation.

Aspirin will help thin the blood as will many other things such as Vitamin E, gingko, and I know there are others I am forgetting.
But in my opinion, these treatments do not work to break up the fibrin or maybe it is fibrinogen -- I forget which -- in the same way as the items on the first list.

Bea Seibert

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You're correct, Bea.

I have the anti-cardio lipid antibody. This is where your platelets stick together and can cause heart attacks and strokes. Look at the website above.

Bea, I agree with everything that you posted about Hypercoagulation

Just wanted to add this fact:

Certain ABX, and other drugs--can affect platlet aggregation, and contribute to added viscousity of the blood

Whenever you see a precaution being issued with a drug--regarding the need to check on coumadin dosages when taking this drug--you know that you have a product that can interact with the Prothrombin Time

Some ABX--such as the cerf-sporins--can deplete Vit. K, and possiably prolong PTT

Coumadin dosages might need to be lowered while on this drug

It is very indiviual--so it is wise to consult with the dispensing Pharmacist--if you have any questions at all

You are right on the money when you state that aspirin does not work to remove fibren--like Natto, or heparin

Aspirin thins the blood, and can help reduce arterial clotting

Plavic actually makes the blood "slippery", so it moves thru the arteries much easier, and it also helps prevent platlets from clumping together.

It's also easier on the heart to pump the thinner blood.

Heparins/coumadin prevent venous clotting--which is due to hypofibrinolysis( fancy term for too much fibren) and the well known DVT's