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Does it affect the absorbtion of doxy if you were to have cereal and milk after one hour using very little milk?
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Actually, a full glass of milk is recommended to take with Doxy. Milk does not affect the absorbtion of Doxy (unlike other Tetracyclines),
but antacids , calcium, magnesium, and zinc will... so dont take Doxy with your vitamins.
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I'm no doctor here, but I agree with Kimmi_K_75. Milk...for example skim milk has 30% of your recommended calcium for the day. This is like taking a calcium supplement right with your doxy.
The calcium binds to the abx. and makes it less effective from what the pharmacist told me.
Once again, I'm not a doctor, but I don't take any calcium or magnesium within 1-2 hours before or 2-3 hours after just like it says on the print out that comes with my doxycycline from the pharmacy.
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It depends on which antibiotics. But Doxy is not affected by milk --and in fact, in medical textbooks say it is recommended.
It could be that pharmacists as a group disagree with the medical point of view on this subject.
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Hi all From my experance --even small amounts of dairy will lower the effect of doxi --Jay--
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From a chemical point of view, a suppliment of calcium is not the same thing as taking a product with calcium in it.
For calcium in milk to bind with abx, it would have to break the bond it has already established with other elements.
This is not easily done (especially with hydrogen bonds)--but it would depend on the specific configuration of the abx in addition to positive and negative charges.
*** A common marketing scam are antacids sold with calcium. These products contain limestone, which is not a good source at all.
For calcium to be absorbed properly, you need Vit. D (which antacids do not contain).
Calcium can also only be absorbed in an acidic enviroment--taking an antacid renders the benefits null. It is totally a marketing scam. *** However, I would be the first to say that people are differant. Some people may find less absorbtion due to dairy.
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Well my doxy says not to take any dairy product or anything else with calcium in within 2 hours. So I'm sticking to that, want to get full benefits from the doxy.
What Kara says may or may not ne true, but I'll stay on the safe side either way. Besides, they add calcium to milk here as well as vitamins so it may be different from normal just-out-of-the-cow milk. I wouldn't risk it.
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Dafje,
You may have a point there on the manufactoring process. Most of us drink pasturized milk. Heat does break down the chemical bonds.
It could be that raw milk does not affect aborbtion, but that the stuff most of us drink...does.
It would just be like my medical textbook to give part of the story.
Under Sickle Cell Anemia it says common in some groups (it doesnt list the groups)
and HIV infection started in healthy young men (nothing else--nothing about high risk).
No wonder medical people know nothing!!
*** I remember a story on Vet ER (reality show for vets) where a woman brought in her dog who had eaten a whole chocholate Easter bunny and various other goodies out of the Easter basket.
She was panicked because as we all know chocolate is poison to dogs.
But what we dont realize is that means REAL chocolate, not the garbage that we Americans eat. As the vet explained, milk chocolate has hardly any cocoa in it--it is sugar and milk.
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I think your text book isn't up to date. Of course the part about HIV is just nonsense (because it doesn't just start randomly and doesn't mind about gender, or age, or anything, just risks). Sickle cell anemia I think doesn't happen in white people, at least that's what one of my books used to say. I don't remember what particular groups get it though. I think what you say about raw milk could very well be true.
About the chocolate: my dog has had severe chocolate poisoning and I know other people who've had the same happen to their dog. I don't know about america but here we have milk chcoloate and pure (dark) chocolate. I happen to love the dark kind and it has up to 70% cocoa in it. Also I have a chihuahua so I think she could kill herself eating milk chocolate too.
The chocolate poisoning depends on the weight of the dog and the ammount of cocoa (so candy bars are better than just chocolate, and white chocolate isn't a problem and so on). Also, the poison leaves the dog's body after 8 days - so the dog can have a build up where he or she eats some on monday, gets it's paws on some more on wednesday, finds a mars bar on friday and suddenly gets ill, while you think "it's just one mars bar, and it's a golden retriever, so it isn't chocolate poisoning". So be careful!
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Dafje,
It is less of a problem of being outdated, as more of not wanting to offend people.
So far as Sickle Cell, the disease is mainly in persons of African descent. But who is and who is not of African descent is not easily determined.
There is hardly anyone left on the planet who is 'pure' anything.
Sickle cell will protect you from Malaria-- so where I live, Creoles who had sickle cell in the 1700's lived longer than those who did not.
*** What passes for chocolate here is not Belgium quality. It is probably what is thrown out as a waste product.
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