Tuesday........anyway, a person in his office sent results to our wonderful DUCK MD and you guessed it!!! He just couldn't and

wouldn't understand that the sinus infection he was seeing and reading wasn't really what he thought it was. Am I making sense? He

said that he just couldn't understand how she could have a Sinus infection IF she was on that many antibiotics and WHO was this

Dr. H anyway??? Anyway, he said her brain looked fine but the report says that she has a sinus infection. Anyone have any ideas????

When he wanted to do some more tests and waste more money I asked if it was life threatening and he said no, so we said thank

you and left. We all know it is the LYME, but of course we don't talk to him about that as he doesn't get it. So, my question

is.........any ideas on how to help get her out of pain until LLMD is back from his much needed vacation?

THANKS IN ADVANCE I know someone will have some ideas. Keets stuck in sinuses? That would explain the pain between the eyebrows, ears and behind eyes.

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My daughter has lyme and her first MRI showed some kind of chronic sinus infection (I can't remember the wording) - our LLMD, had us take her to a Ear nose and throat doctor, we also didnt mention the lyme.

Don't know what to suggest.

Did you try a search for the word sinus? This has come up a number of times in the past. Some people are having trouble with search. I am not. You might try restricting the time period and keeping it just to medical forum.

Hope somebody comes up with a better answer.

For me, butalbytal helped with headache pain (sometimes). When it worked, it really worked. When it didn't...it didn't.

Also with headache pain, one of those packs made with buckwheat or rice that you can stick in the microwave helped a lot. I used one (hot) on the back of my head, and one on my sinuses.

For some people, acupuncture has worked very well.

You know all the rest, I'm sure -- dark, quiet, no movement. It helped me to sit in a Lazyboy recliner, not all the way flat.

I had horrendous headaches early in my LD tx, and again during babesia tx -- the kind where I wanted to hit my head against the wall. I used to fantasize about taking my brain out of my skull and running cold water over it. It's been a long time (8 months) since I had headaches or body aches like that, for which I am devoutly thankful.

Diuretics might help; important to have medical guidance on that, though.

Also, a full body, very gentle, cleanse might help. During my mepron breaks, I found it helpful to do the psyllium husk/bentonite clay and the liver flush cleanse, with lots of detox and green tea. Helped the liver detoxify, I think. Any road, it did ease the headache a little.

All the best for you and your daughter. Sometimes you gotta just live through it -- very hard on everyone. Be kind to yourself, Ms. Caretaker, as well. You're doing a wonderful job.

Serrapeptase, silkworm enzyme
http://smart-nutrition.net/serrapeptase-research.htm

Serrapeptase is a proteolytic enzyme.
Clinical studies show that serrapeptase
induces fibrinolytic, anti-inflammatory and
anti-edemic (prevents swelling and fluid
retention) activity in a number of tissues,
and that its anti-inflammatory effects are
superior to other proteolytic enzymes.

Besides reducing inflammation, one of
serrapeptase's most profound benefits is
reduction of pain, due to its ability to
block the release of pain-inducing amines
from inflamed tissues.

Physicians throughout Europe and Asia have
recognized the anti-inflammatory and
pain-blocking benefits of this naturally
occurring substance and are using it in
treatment as an alternative to salicylates,
ibuprofen and other NSAIDs.

Serrapeptase and Sinusitis

Due to its inflammatory properties,
serrapeptase has been shown in clinical
studies to benefit chronic sinusitis
sufferers.
In this condition, the mucus in patients'
nasal cavities is thickened and
hypersecreted. This thickening causes mucus
to be expelled less frequently.

Japanese researchers evaluated the effects of
serratiopeptidase (30 mg/day orally for four
weeks) on the elasticity and viscosity of the
nasal mucus in adult patients with chronic
sinusitis.
Serratiopeptidase reduced the viscosity of
the mucus, improving the elimination of
bronchopulmonary secretions.

Other clinical trials support serrapeptase's
ability to relieve the problems associated
with chronic sinusitis.

Hope this helps,
Carol

It is a nature's sunshine product and it containes... cleavers aerial parts(Galium aparine),red clover tops,Stillingia root,and prickly ash bark.I don't know if it would work for you,but it sure helps me.

I put about 40 drops in a 32 oz. glass of water and drink it over about an hours period of time.

I also fill the tub up with very warm/hot water just to the point of covering my nose while laying flat in the tub.have the water cover the eyes also,just the tip of the nose exposed to breath.and relax till the water starts to cool down . the water pressure and heat helps to drain the sinus cavities. of course if you have someone who is afraid to be under water this won't work.

How about draining her sinuses by having a chiro do some cranial sacral manipulation? I have friends that swear by it. Everytime they have a cold in the head or fluid in the ears they go.

My daughter did go to their chiro before we knew what was wrong. It is my understanding a really good chiro can drain all the junk out where it can then go through the bodies normal detox center, the liver.

A chiro/homeo doc would probably also be more apt to give her something to help that junk be processed well and have no complications.

Ours was excellent with understanding the body's processes, much more than any reg MD and how to work with those processes instead of working against them.

Just an idea. I don't know if you have anyone like that up there. I will be glad to ask ours if she knows of anyone if you like.

She has traveled a lot and knows many that have trained like herself to the furthering education in these areas.

You know my email. Contact me if you like. The first URL below explains what is done and how others have been helped.

The second URL is of a chiro/homeo in ID, don't know how good it is, but I googled this one.
http://www.com.msu.edu/communique/spring2002/cranial.htm
http://www.byregion.net/cgibin/lsb_search.pl?main_region=&search_form=search&keyword=cranial+sacral&name=&city=&state=ID&zip=&country=&category=&lsb_show_by=All&submit=Submit[/URL]

This explains craniosacral therapy:

Craniosacral Therapy - CranioSacral Therapy (CST) is a gentle form of manipulation of the craniosacral system.

The craniosacral system consists of the membranes and fluid that surround and protect the brain and spinal cord and includes the skull, face and mouth, which make up the cranium, and the sacrum (tailbone).

Craniosacral therapy has proven effective for the relief of migraine headaches, chronic neck and back pain, traumatic brain and spinal cord injuries, central nervous system disorders, temporomandibular joint syndrome (TMJ), Scoliosis, and fibromyalgia, among other ailments.

Given that this treatment deals with the Central Nervous System. I would approach it with care with a very good professional. I would also ask the LLMD what they think first.

I am no doc, just doctor mom. I know how helpless this disease makes us all feel at times. I hope one of us here has helped to give some ideas of something that could help.

Take care!

My MD also told me I had a sinus infection but my brain looked normal. Funny thing is,,, I dont have symptoms of a sinus infection. Not stuffy, no runny nose and my headache is not between my eyes.

My MD offered me an abx to take,,, of course I declined.. I will bring my results with me to Dr. C,, I see him on Friday.

I didnt know others got this same diagnosis with their MRI's. I wonder what this means,, that we all look like we have sinus infections??
Let us know what your llmd says.

Hope your daughter is feeling better.

what the hey, I already spend a small fortune on suppliments, what is one more? I will follow up on the cranial manipulation

too as we have done that before and it does work. Yes, Sandra, it kind of makes you wonder how many Lymies suffer from sinus

things, and are of course not treated for the "real" problem. The duck my daughter went to was soooooo confused as to

why she was still having problems with all the antibiotics she was on. Of course he can't say LYME!! I am still thinking die off and it is just kind of stuck in the sinus cavitys???? I don't know, it's just an idea.

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