Thanks,

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Originally posted by johnnyb:
My new LLMD said this was probably a herx. I don't see why a bicillin shot would cause flu-like symptoms on its own.... sorry if I am digressing here.
- JB

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I'm sorry no one replied to your post! Sometimes we miss things! I know there are folks here with bradycardia. I think it CAN be from lyme or babesia.

About the flu-like symptoms...that is a known symptom of Lyme disease. So if the bicillin killed off some spirochetes, producing a herx...you will have flu-like symptoms, or any of the other Lyme symptoms.

A herx consists of symptoms you've had in the past from the lyme, or new symptoms you've never had before that are known symptoms of Lyme.

Hope that makes sense!
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Treepatrol's links http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000569.html

Tincup's Links for new members
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Dr. Joseph J. Burrascano's Guidelines http://www.ilads.org/burrascano_1102.htm

Western Blot explanation: http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/022767.html

The cause and spread of Lyme http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/032259.html

More info: http://www.ILADS.org/

Lyme Wars http://www.wildernetwork.org/Lyme_Wars.html

Lyme Disease State Info http://www.lymeinfo.net/support.html

Rose's 15 Facts for Newcomers http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/011977.html

Abbreviations for Lyme-speak
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Making the most of your LLMD visit
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Success Stories http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/022173.html

http://www.anapsid.org/lyme/matthewgoss/index.html

1. Unexplained fevers, sweats, chills, or flushing
2. Unexplained weight change--loss or gain
3. Fatigue, tiredness, poor stamina
4. Unexplained hair loss
5. Swollen glands: list areas____
6. Sore throat
7. Testicular pain/pelvic pain
8. Unexplained menstrual irregularity
9. Unexplained milk production: breast pain
10.Irritable bladder or bladder dysfunction
11.Sexual dysfunction or loss of libido
12.Upset stomach
13.Change in bowel function-constipation, diarrhea
14.Chest pain or rib soreness
15.Shortness of breath, cough
16.Heart palpitations, pulse skips, heart block
17.Any history of a heart murmur or valve prolapse?
18.Joint pain or swelling: list joints_____________
19.Stiffness of the joints, neck, or back
20.Muscle pain or cramps
21.Twitching of the face or other muscles
22.Headache
23.Neck creeks and cracks, neck stiffness, neck pain
24.Tingling, numbness, burning or stabbing sensations, shooting pains
25.Facial paralysis (Bell's Palsy)
26.Eyes/Vision: double, blurry, increased floaters, light sensitivity
27.Ears/Hearing: buzzing, ringing, ear pain, sound sensitivity
28.lncreased motion sickness, vertigo, poor balance
29.Lightheadedness, wooziness
30.Tremor
31.Confusion, difficulty in thinking
32.Diffculty with concentration, reading
33.Forgetfuiness, poor short term memory
34.Disorientation: getting lost, going to wrong places
35.Difficulty with speech or writing
36.Mood swings, irritability, depression
37.Disturbed sleep-too much, too little, early awakening
38.Exaggerated symptoms or worse hangover from alcohol

Maybe some will show up later. If you can't find your post later, it may be on page 2 or 3. Go to the bottom of this page and click on 2, 3, 4, etc to find it.

So...keep the above in mind and do NOT "expect the worse" when reading the following. It is LIKELY a potassium problem (can be corrected) or a hypothyroid problem (also can be addressed).

Okay? Now for the "documentation":

"Underlying conditions list: The list of possible underlying conditions mentioned in various sources for Bradycardia includes:

Athlete - a slow heart rate can be normal in very physically fit athletes.
Heart conditions
Arrhythmias
Sinus node disease
Bradycardias
Damaged heart
Heart block
*Hypothyroidism
Hashimoto's Thyroiditis - a common form of hypothyroidism
*Hypothermia
Heat exhaustion
Anorexia nervosa
*Malnutrition
Certain medications
See also causes of slow heart beat, palpitations and bradycardia"
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/b/bradycardia/underly.htm

"In symptomatic patients the keys to proper decision making are correlation of symptoms to bradycardia and reversibility of causative factors (see table of causes of bradycardia).

Causes of Bradycardia Table

Causes of Bradycardia Table

Intrinsic Causes

Idiopathic degeneration (aging)

Infarction or ischemia (heart attack or reduced coronary arterial blood flow)

Infiltrative diseases

Sarcoidosis: the development of granulomatous lesions (cause unknown) in the heart, bones, lungs, etc

Amyloidosis: deposition of a near transparent waxy material due to degeneration of body tissues in chronic disease (see figures 73a, 73b, 74, 76, 77).

Hemochromatosis: deposition of iron into tissue

Collagen vascular disease (arteritis, periarteritis nodosa, etc.)

Systemic lupus erythematosis: chronic disease involving multiple organs like the skin, connective tissue, kidneys, spleen, heart, gastro intestinal tract, etc.

Rheumatoid arthritis: chronic inflammation of the joints and some organs, of unknown cause, possibly related to abnormal immune mechanisms.

Scleraderma: chronic inflammatory process causing severe increase in connective tissue in organs, skin, etc., cause unknown.

Myotonic muscular dystrophy (abnormal, inherited disease of muscles, with faulty development of degeneration of muscles)

Surgical trauma

Valve replacement

Correction of congenital heart disease

Heart transplantation

Familial diseases (inherited)

*Infectious diseases

Chagas' disease: a chronic wasting disease caused by a parasite (Trypanosoma Cruzi), prevalent in Central and South America.

Endocarditus: secondary to dental procedures causing infection in the blood stream, illicit drug injections into veins, etc.

Extrinsic Causes

Autonomically mediated syndromes (i.e. vomiting, sleeping, etc.)

Neurocardiac syncope (that's fainting)

Carotid-sinus hypersensitivity: from vagus innervation hypertonicity

Situational disturbances: coughing, micturition, defecation, vomiting

Drugs

B-Adrenergic blockers: inderal, atenolol, etc.

Calcium-channel blockers: procardia, verapamil, diliatezern

Clonidine: for hypertension

Digoxin: for heart failure, atrial fibrillation, etc.

Antiarrhythmic agents: pronestyl, quinidine, etc.

*Hypothyroidism (abnormally low thyroid hormone in the blood stream)

*Hypothermia

Neurologic disorders (affecting autonomic nervous system)

*Electrolyte imbalances

*Hypokalemia: low potassium

Hyperkalemia: high potassium "
http://www.rjmatthewsmd.com/Definitions/pop/tablefig.htm

IMO...likely hypothyroid problem or electrolyte imbalance.

P.S.
Doctors don't like to be told what to do (like most of us ;-) so...

You could say to your doctor, ``Do you think I might have low potassium?''

Then...
He would likely order a blood electrolyte test to rule that out. (Starting point.)

From there, if negative, you might want to explore the thyroid possiblity.

Men have slower (lower) pulse rates/heart beats than women...normally. My dad's was low (like yours) for MANY years, so don't freak.

Really weird.... I had a bad migraine last week, at which time my resting pulse came back to a "normal" 60-85 beats per minute and has stayed there since.

Maybe an eletrolyte imbalance or neurological lyme symptoms caused this?

It's strange, since I had that slow resting heart rate for at least a month, right up until the headache.

I do have 3 lesions on my brain (from migraines, or maybe from lyme).

Thoughts on this appreciated.