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Please help me - my daughter is herxing and can't work and this is her only way to get insurance and get her antibiotics. Can anyone please, please list their best detox strategy? She was using Yogi detox tea, but the skullcap in it is a real no no and she got sick from this. It seems as if she is dying she is so sick from her herx.
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I dink Ypgi tea too, why is skullcap a no no?
TinCup had a good homemede detox tea recipe when I was looking a few years ago.... I'm not sure if the search feature is working, perhaps you could post a request for it and someone might have it saved and could post it for you.
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Epsom salt baths ..... 2-4 cups salts be prepared to slepp after this. Also make sre the water is not too, too hot and soak for 20 to 30 minutes.
Tincup's Tea Recipe 1. Mix a batch of herb tea (not as strong as pills and extracts). Mix one recipe one day, the other recipe the next time, and alternate between the two. Then add the liquid extracts listed below.
Recipe 1 Use the following tea bags:
4 green tea bags (decaf)- antioxidant, detoxifiers, blood cleansers, energy booster. Contains chlorophyll, minerals, and enzymes.
2 organic peppermint- stomach settling, enhances digestion,. Use for chills, cholic, diarrhea, headaches, nausea, spasms, and poor appetite.
2 Dandelion- reduces swelling and fluid buildup. Cleans blood and liver and used as a diuretic. Reduces serum cholesterol and uric acid. Improves kidney, pancreas, spleen and stomach functions. Useful for abscesses, boils, breast tumors, and hepatitis.
2 Red Clover - good for weakened immune systems. Acts as a natural antibiotic, blood purifier, and relaxant. Good for skin diseases, liver disorders, and kidney problems.
2 Pau d'arco- contains a natural antibacterial agent. It cleanses the blood and is good for candidasis and all types of infection.
Recipe 2 4 Green tea (decaf)- antioxidant, detoxifiers, blood cleansers, energy booster. Contains chlorophyll, minerals, and enzymes.
2 Red raspberry leaf- Relaxes uterine and intestinal spasms. Promotes healthy nails, bones, teeth, and skin. Decreases menstrual bleeding.
2 Dandelion- reduces swelling and fluid buildup. Cleans blood and liver and used as a diuretic. Reduces serum cholesterol and uric acid. Improves kidney, pancreas, spleen and stomach functions. Useful for abscesses, boils, breast tumors, and hepatitis.
2 Red Clover - good for weakened immune systems. Acts as a natural antibiotic, blood purifier, and relaxant. Good for skin diseases, liver disorders, and kidney problems.
2 Pau d'arco- contains a natural antibacterial agent. It cleanses the blood and is good for candidasis and all types of infection.
Directions: Boil a few cups of water. Remove from heat.
Add tea bags from one of the above recipes and let steep about 10 minutes.
Remove tea bags and cool.
Add fresh water to make one gallon.
Add 3-4 packs sweet and low, or sugar/sweetener, honey, natural sweeteners, to taste.
Add:
5 drops (Herbs Etc.) whole seed Milk Thistle extract and
Drink as warm tea or on ice. You should drink the gallon of herbal tea within 2 days and keep the unused portion refrigerated.
MILK THISTLE- Contains some of the most potent liver protecting substances known. Acts as an anti-oxidant to protect the liver, stimulates the production of new liver cells and prevents the formation of damaging leukotrienes. Assists in protecting the kidneys, good for adrenal disorders and inflammatory bowel disorders.
GERMANIUM- Improves cellular oxygenation. Documented study shows improvement for rheumatoid arthritis, food allergies, elevated cholesterol, candidiasis, and chronic viral infections
Also I have heard the detox coffee enemas at curezone.com can stop a herx almost immediately .... I have no personal experience with this as when I herx I don't want to be laying on the floor ..... ut really heard it works quite well.
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Cindy, my daughter is not a doctor but she has told me that skullcap is on the list of 12 herbs/supplements that the FDA says should be banned. It causes liver damage supposedly.
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I'm in bad shape right now too. I re-started Mepron about a month ago and am just coming into the herx from Hades. I have been sick for 3 days solid. I am drinking lots of electrolyte water, taking Epsom Salts baths and sleeping a ton. I am just riding it out. I work for about an hour and then have to lie down. I get up and do it again 30 minutes later. Not much else one can do. It is part of the healing process.
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If possible she may ask her doc about skipping a day or two of meds.
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Hi Pumpkin the best detox suppliment I have used is called-Utlimate Clense-- from a company named-Natures Secerte-
It is Very effective full body clense- Cost about$15-- at health food store or online--I made a post about it about 2 weeks ago --some one posted ingerdients on thread-- I think post was titled- Very good full body clense--Jay--
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JMO: Not sure you want to do something as intense as Ultimate Cleanse while on meds. A product like this will clear you out of everything, including abx. I would go a little gentler and ride out the symptoms, as best you can. There is no way around it. Feeling #$%^y is part of the deal, unfortunately. Be kind to yourself and those around you. That's the best advice I can offer.
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So stinks, my last mepron/artesminin/clindy herx almost killed me; lasted almost one month during which I detoxed and detoxed and detoxed
get ph strips and test ph in urine, it tells alot about toxins/acidity. what has worked for me is to go towards a very alkaline diet to counteract the acid of the toxins; a lot of green vegetables are key. I buy organic greens and cook them; not only eat the greens, but drink the liquid from the greens (I like greens, I am from the south)I also buy barley grass or other green drinks from heatlh food store and green supplements
study ways to alkaline your body, good for detox and makes the cells a less comfortable place for the ketes Lymelady
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Sunday I started biaxin & plaquenil and couldnt get out of bed until today.
Yesterday I tried the lemon/olive oil detox and today I am able to get up and do some light things.
I felt nothing after taking the liquid mid day but this morning I knew I could get up and move. It might just be a coincidence but just thought Id pass it along
juice of 1 lemon 1tbl virgin olive oil 1 cup filtered water
I like lemon water and this was no trouble getting it down but it was a little strong.
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Dr. Diehl writes: ``Herbal medicine is generally safe - safer than western pharmaceuticals. There are certain plants that are highly toxic. The most common examples are those that contain pyrolizidine alkaloids.'' Those that contain alkaloids or that reportedly have triggered toxic reactions include the following.
Chaparral (creosote bush, greasewood) Comfrey (if taken internally) Crotalaria (Ye Bai He) Eupatorium Germander (This toxic herb is often substituted for skullcap, and skullcap is not toxic in well-formulated herbal remedies. However, always insist that any ingredient identified as skullcap be the genuine article and not germander.) Groundsel (senecio longilobus) Heliotropium Mentha pulegium Mistletoe Pennyroyal (squawmint) oil or Hedeoma pulegoides Sassafras Senicio species
Special Cases
Licorice: a mainstay of Chinese formulas, licorice is used in very small quantities to balance herbal action and often appears as glycyrrhizin (licorice root). However, licorice produces well-documented side effects such as hyperaldosteronism (an increase in levels of the adrenal hormone aldosterone, triggering imbalance of electrolytes) when taken in doses of more than 50 grams a day or for six weeks or longer. However, no side effects have been seen in smaller doses over thirty days or in higher doses for a very short period of time.
Skullcap: also called scutelleria or scute, this herb is used in many formulas to good effect. However, it appears that the toxic substance germander often is substituted for skullcap in formulas without being properly identified. As a result skullcap looks like the offending substance. Dr. Diehl found several mentions of skullcap toxicity in the literature, but those mentions may in fact refer to unidentified substitutions of germander. Further research is needed to clarify this. Until then, whenever skullcap appears in a formula, make sure that it, not germander, is in fact being used. If you cannot be sure, do not take the formula or herb.
Dr. Diehl has found one mention of toxicity in the literature for the following herbs. Further documentation of toxicity is needed.
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