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trueblue
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I'm on treatment for 5 weeks. 12 days of doxy and then switched to zithro. I'm having bad pain on and off in my arms and legs, mostly. Going from thumbs up arms and arches up legs. Really deep inside.

I asked the doctor what the heck this was and apparently it's tendon pain. (This is different than anything I've had before.)

I did a search and fish oil was suggested fairly often. I have difficulty taking fish oil although I do have some (but have trouble coping with the fish burp thing).

I also have evening primrose oil. It's an omega 6 and not a 3; any chance it'll help? Any reason not to take it? Any other suggestions?

So far all that's helped has been ice; advil doesn't touch it.

Thanks


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minoucat
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True, all I know is what I read, so it's always suspect, but...

My understanding is that you need a balance of Omega 3 and Omega 6; that you need up to 5 times more Omega 3 than Omega 6 or there can be a pro-inflammatory effect; and that western diets are already heavy in Omega 6.

Having said that, I will add that EPO was almost miraculous for me in stopping menstrual cramping.

There are other sources than fish for Omega 3 -- cooked oatmea, borage, and some others I can't remember.

Also -- I dunno if you can assume it's tendon pain. May well be -- but it could also be neurological in origin. A lot of my pain seemed to be, and pain meds and antiinflammatories (other than opiate type ones) often did not help.

Omega 3-6 links:
http://www.omega3sealoil.com/Chapter3_1.html


Wikipedia


Whole Health MD

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True:

I can relate to your arm/leg pains. It definately feel like deep tissue or tendon pains. I also havent had this type of pain before and I also am on Zithromax. I was assuming it was the bacteria dieing. I dont know,, but I know it HURTS. You are also right about nothing working for the pain. I am also taking percocet and it doesnt do much for the pain. I have been pretty irritable lately.
Hopefully this goes away soon for both of us.

Hugs to you,

Sandra


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Thank you for the reply and links, minoucat.

I never heard the stuff about the balance before. Flax seed is Omega 3, that might be a better way for me.

There's a major inflammatory thing going on so it's hard to say. (I mean, more so than my usual.)

I've not had anything work on neurologic pain. So flax seed's worth a try.

If the inflammation goes it takes the nerve stuff with it. (It's been a very long time since it's been gone.)

I'm not sure about the tendon pain. That's what the doctor said, I showed her where it hurt and explained how it felt and that was the response.


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quote:
Originally posted by salydega:
I can relate to your arm/leg pains. It definately feel like deep tissue or tendon pains. I also havent had this type of pain before and I also am on Zithromax. I was assuming it was the bacteria dieing.

I'm assuming the same thing Sandra. I just wish it'd hurry up and kill the suckers off and get out of there.

I had this to some degree for 2 months before starting treatment, so I'm thinking I can't blame the Zith. (I've also taken zithromax before and this wasn't part of my herx.)

I'm sorry that you have it, too.

Hugs to you, too!
(and let's wake up tomorrow with this symptom gone.)


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Hi trueblue,

Hope you make a fast recovery from this misery.

For fish oil, try the lemon-flavored in gel caps. They can still cause burps, but there is no fish oil taste, just lemon which is tolerable. Carlson's and Nordic Naturals are the purest brands.

Are you taking anything to clear away the neurotoxins released from the dying lyme bugs? I have good success with chlorella or spirulina to collect the toxins and extra fiber to keep the digestive tract moving.

Wishing you the best,
Nutmeg


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Carol in PA
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Trueblue,
I agree with Nutmeg, Carlson's lemon flavored fish oil is good.

I buy mine here: http://store.yahoo.com/iherb/liquidomega3.html

Information on Essential Fatty Acids http://www.iherb.com/fattyacids.html

From what I've read, flax seed oil does not reduce inflammation like fish oil does.

Hoping you can find something to help,
Carol


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Zithromax
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What are azithromycin tablets?
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What are azithromycin tablets? (Back to top)
AZITHROMYCIN (Zithromax�) is a macrolide antibiotic that interferes with the growth of bacterial cells. It is used to treat bacterial infections in many different parts of the body. Azithromycin also treats sexually transmitted vaginal or urinary tract infections caused by chlamydia. It will not work for colds, flu, or other virus infections. Generic azithromycin tablets are not yet available.

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They need to know if you have any of these conditions:
*kidney disease
*liver disease
*pneumonia
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Take azithromycin TABLETS by mouth. Follow the directions on the prescription label. Swallow tablets whole with a full glass of water. Azithromycin tablets can be taken with or without food. Take your doses at regular intervals. Do not take your medicine more often than directed. Finish the full course prescribed by your prescriber or health care professional even if you think your condition is better. Do not stop taking except on your prescriber's advice.

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*skin rash, itching
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If you are going to have surgery, tell your prescriber or health care professional that you are taking azithromycin.

Where can I keep my medicine? (Back to top)
Keep out of the reach of children in a container that small children cannot open.

Store at room temperature between 15 and 30 degrees C (59 and 86 degrees F). Throw away any unused medicine after the expiration date.

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Thanks Nutmeg, Carol and tree!

Nutmeg ~ thanks for then tip on the lemon flavored ones. I'm not doing much to clear away toxins. Added fiber, decaf green tea and drinking lots of distilled water.

Carol ~ Thanks for the links and confirming about the lemon being not as nasty.

tree ~ thanks for the Zithromax info. It's much easier and bigger to read than the one stuck to the bottle. (no magnifying glass needed)
I read everything; remebering it is a whole other story.

[This message has been edited by trueblue (edited 10 August 2005).]


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