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SForsgren
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I am in the process of revising my supplement protocol now that I have been diagnosed with Bb and HME. I have read alot over the past month on various key nutrients for Lyme such as magnesium and Beta Sitosterol. I would very much appreciate any comments on specific supplements that others are taking to cross-match with my list. Once I get my final list together, I will be posting the entire list to my site at www.BetterHealthGuy.com.

Thanks!
Scott


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seibertneurolyme
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Scott,

See my recent post under Multiple Diseases question at http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/036654.html

Hubby takes other things, but this list is what has helped the most.

Bea Seibert


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David95928
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Scott,
Vitamin b complex, vitamin b12, and magnesium have all been very helpful to me.
David

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CoQ10, Omegas/Essential Fatty Acids, Cal-Mag, Ginkgold (for brain fog)improved circulation in the brain. Acidophilus or plain non-fat yogurt once or twice a day.

The link that Bea has provided you has many of these. I think Ginko products and their use should be monitored as the circulation could have negative effects if you tend to seizure, or take SSRIs. You'd have to research a little more on this. They use it with Alzheimer patients.


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MSM, chlorophyll, CoQ10, multi-vitamin, magnesium, calcium, MILK THISTLE!, digestive enzymes, lumbrokinase, and whatever else I can throw in!

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Do not take anything I say as medical advice. I am not a doctor, but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express!
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All the above plus imo the two most important.
msp silver supplement and oil of oregano
Both have proven in-vivo efficacy against pathogens. I've been on abx for years and not only does it help the abx do their job against Bb it has controlled any potential yeast problems that arise from abx usage.

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Hi Scott,

Here's what works best for my husband and I.

LYME SUPPLEMENT SHOPPING LIST
Explanations from Dr. B's "Treatment Guidelines" http://www2.lymenet.org/domino/file.nsf/UID/guidelines

BEST PRICES
Vitacost.com seems to have the best online prices lately. The Pharmanex products can only be ordered from a distributor, and I am one. I offer all Lymies the max discount of 20%, which you can get by entering the code 20ECOUP at checkout.

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THE BASICS
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MULTIVITAMIN
Pharmanex LifePak + MarineOmega Item #01101868 (avail. online only)
Cost $52.10 + $10 (Make sure you place an "ADR" order to save 28% and earn free product points. The cost is $37 + $8 per month if you add in free product points) http://www.pharmanexusa.com/cgi-bin/pxweb/product/en/ns_productDetail.jsp?content_id=01101868&spons_ID=US0668509

B-COMPLEX
Coenzyme B Complex Orange 60T from Source Naturals
Cost $13.15

MAGNESIUM
Ultra-Mag 200mg 120T from Source Naturals
Cost: $7.95

PROBIOTIC
Jarro-Dophilus EPS 60C from Jarrow

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TARGET SOLUTIONS
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CANDIDA/YEAST CONTROL
Perfect Food Super Greens from Garden of Life 300mg powder
Cost: $24.79

Garlinase** 4000 from Enzymatic Therapy
Cost $25.00

IMMUNITY BOOSTER
ReishiMax GLp from Pharmanex
Cost: $66.50 (as an ADR order) http://www.pharmanexusa.com/cgi-bin/pxweb/product/en/ns_productDetail.jsp?content_id=01003519&spons_ID=US0668509

FIGHTING FATIGUE
Co-Q10 (Don't take with Mepron) from Pharmanex
Cost: $14.25 ADR http://www.pharmanexusa.com/cgi-bin/pxweb/product/en/ns_productDetail.jsp?content_id=01003287&spons_ID=US0668509

REDUCING BRAIN FOG
BioGinkgo 27/7 from Pharmanex
Cost $21.85 ADR http://www.pharmanexusa.com/cgi-bin/pxweb/product/en/ns_productDetail.jsp?content_id=01003442&spons_ID=US0668509

or

Whole Foods Niacin, 200mg
(start with 100mg, until you get used to the flushing)

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YEAST/CANDIDA CONTROL
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My husband and I have been battling systemic yeast, and these are the supplements that have worked for us. I've put them in the order of effectiveness, so you might want to work your way down the list, adding supplements every couple of days, until the overgrowth is controlled. (Nystatin has never worked well for me.)

I personally keep the yeast at bay with probiotics, Super Food, and grapefruit seed extract. If I eat too much sugary or starchy food, I have to temporarily add the Garlinase.

Probiotics EVERY meal.
Each day we mix several brands, hoping the good bacteria will win.

A. Jarro-Dophilus EPS 60C from Jarrow (Our favorite**)
It doesn't need to be refrigerated, a plus if you have to go to work.

B. A few spoonfuls of live-culture, no-sugar yogurt with meals, to reach the upper GI tract.

Perfect Food Super Greens from Garden of Life
Recently, we've added this green powder, "The Perfect Food" from the Garden of Life, which is equivalent to eating 5-10 servings of vegetables. The thing that's great about it is that it seems to suppress GI tract yeast overgrowth, as well as providing immunity-boosting antioxidants.

Liquid Grapefruit Seed Extract
About 6 drops in a glass of water, once a day, or more, if thrush on the tongue gets out of hand. I use Nutribiotic GSE, but I think any brand will do.

Garlinase** 4000 from Enzymatic Therapy
Amazing at flushing out the fungus/yeast. Works MUCH better than Nystatin for us. Beware of a big die-off (i.e. diarrhea) when you first take it. Take one before bed, more if you have an outbreak. Garlic thins the blood, so make sure you're not mixing it with other blood thinners. This is processed so it doesn't give you stinky breath.

Yeast Fighters from TwinLab
Includes Lactobacillus, Garlic Bulb Extract, Caprylic Acid, and various other herbs.

Saccharomyces boulardii from Allergy Research Group
A friendly strain of yeast that hopefully will win the battle against Candida.


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FIGHTING FATIGUE
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C0-Q10 (Don't take with Mepron)
Deficiencies have been related to poor function of the heart, limitations of stamina, and poor resistance to infections. Tissue biopsy studies have resulted in the recommendation that a patient with chronic Lyme should take between 200 and 300 mg daily of standard brands, or 90 mg daily of the pharmaceutical quality product marketed by Pharmanex, in two or three equal doses. Improvements do not begin for several weeks. The body will manufacture its own Co-Q 10 when the original infection is controlled, but only if stimulated by aggressive exercise. Therefore, use this supplement until you are feeling well and exercising regularly.
Pharmanex CoQ10 ($16.20) http://www.pharmanexusa.com/cgi-bin/pxweb/product/en/ns_productDetail.jsp?content_id=01003287&spons_ID=US0668509

CORDYCEPS
This well-known herb from Tibet has been shown in clinical studies to improve stamina, fatigue, energy, and to enhance lung and antioxidant function. It is the only compound known to raise Superoxide Dismutase activity. Although the use of this is optional, the effects can be so dramatic, I strongly urge all people with fatigue to use this, long term. Available from Pharmanex as "Cordy Max".
Cordy Max from Pharmanex ($24.70) http://www.pharmanexusa.com/cgi-bin/pxweb/product/en/ns_productDetail.jsp?content_id=01003441&spons_ID=US0668509


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BRAIN REPAIR
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ESSENTIAL FATTY ACIDS
Studies show that when EFAs are taken regularly, statistically significant improvements in fatigue, aches, weakness, vertigo, dizziness, memory, concentration and depression are likely. There are two broad classes: GLA and EPA, derived respectively from plant and fish oils.
Plant Oils (omega-6 oils): borage oil, evening primrose oil, or black currant seed oil (choose one)
Fish Oil (omega-3 oils): "MAX EPA" (or any similar preparation containing 1,000 mg of EPA)

Optimum Omega from Pharmanex ($11.90)
Optimum Omega gives your body healthful nutrition with a rich source of omega-3 fatty acids, vitamin E, and deodorized garlic. http://www.pharmanexusa.com/cgi-bin/pxweb/product/en/ns_productDetail.jsp?content_id=01003103&spons_ID=US0668509

Or

MarineOmega from Pharmanex ($37.90 or $10 with LifePak)
MarineOmega� contains ultra-pure omega-3 fatty acids and the highest grade fish oils from krill harvested from the pristine waters of Antarctica. Krill oil is rich in EPA and DHA in a unique phospholipid form targeted for use in the brain and in cell membranes throughout the body. (I'm not sure why this is so much more expensive that the other product, but see the special below for a better price.)

You get MarineOmega (Ultra-Pure Omega-3 Fish Oils) for only $10 (30%
off) if you order LifePak as a monthly delivery (called ADR).
Product Ordering Numbers:
LifePak + MarineOmega? Item #01101868
LifePak Women + MarineOmega? Item #01101869
LifePak Prime + MarineOmega? Item #01101867

NeuroOptimizer from Jarrow
There are many clinical studies that claim that the ingredients in this product promote brain metabolism. I take one a day, figuring it'll help fight the brain fog.



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Wbat is the consensus on B? I read somewhere that they may feed the lyme bacteria and thus adding lots of them may not be ideal. Thoughts?
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Don't know about consensus, but do know that Dr B on Long Island recommended to hubby but advised him to be very careful of B12 shots as they could overstimulate a sensitive nervous system.He also stated that if a person was getting a sufficient dose of B12 by shot and the product was a high quality it would temporarily turn your urine pinkish.

Bea Seibert


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BIO-ALTERNATIVES.ORG


SPECIAL BLEND,,,IT IS GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT WITH OIL OF ORAGANO...

COLLOIDAL SILVER MADE BY YOURSELF OR FROM A REPUTABLE COMPANY.

SIBERIAN GINSENG


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