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ArtistDi
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I just received some forms from SSI regarding
"pain," "fatigue," etc. More paperwork, but
how detailed should I answer? Also, with
treatment, my pain levels are better, so how
to indicate that treatment has helped, but
still not eradicated things for me to work
full-time?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.


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When I applied I did not have a diagnosis of lyme. I had Idiopathic Hypersomnia/ possible narcolepsy. I would fall asleep standing in line I was so tired.

I was told to list every symptom I had and thats just what I did. They dont care what the disease is called they just want to know what symptoms you have that make it impossible for you to work. The more you have the better

I listed every physical problem including plantar faciatias. I also had a very difficult time mentally and told them I had to turn over my personal finances because I was not able to put my bills and check book together for 4 months.

When they asked me if I went out on a regular basis I said yes, to the mailbox. It seems funny now but back then it was the truth. That was my only regular outing.

I told them I ate almond better and rice cakes for day on end cuz it was so hard to get to the grocery store and when I did I didnt have it in me to cook. I would stare at the food and not know what to do with it.

The whole form looked like it was written my a messy kid but I suspect that just played in my favor.

When they sent me to a shrink for cognitive testing and their gp I said I would be happy to see any doc they sent me to cuz, just maybe they might have an answer.

I talked to the claim person who handles my case several times and we got along real well. Remember this person is the one who makes the yes or no decision so you do not want them not to like you. Be yourself and friendly

After she made the yes decision it still had to go to the regional office to be ok'd. They dont send them all but they did send mine.

I got it first time, no lawyer but I was not a high wage earner and was in my late 50's. Those things make an impact Im sure. They figure if your highly educated you can do Something even if your comatose and cant write.

Just write down everything and tell the truth and then pray. I hope all goes well.


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do a search on disablility here you will find a lot of info
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Di, I've copied/pasted a bunch of info here for you. After my guidance comments, is the DISINISSUES web site....a real life saver so book mark it!

When completing all the redundant paperwork, do NOT have it error free! When you make a mistake, just leave it. If you are able to do 100% free of error work, then you have shown you can still do substantial work!!

They used that against me on my 1st claim. It took me 5 FULL YEARS to finally be approved 7-1-05; they went back 3 yrs. & paid me for 2.5 years back pay.

Read it good, read the female MDs & bookmark it as you will use this a lot.

MINOUCAT has great disability info, you could access it using TREEPATROL's newbie links, and go down several pages until you see "insurance" I believe ... SS disability by Minoucat & click on it ok.

Welcome to this 24/7 educational & support group board, www.lymenet.org !
Here's TREEPATROL's and TINCUP'S combination newbie links.
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/029917.html

Print off the links then check them off as you read as you could spend several months reading all of this. Treepatrol constantly adds new links as they become available from the members here.

print & read Dr. B's (a lyme literate MD) info first; you will come back to this often.

Also, see Cheryl's extensive web sites on: LD DIAGNOSIS, SYMPTOMS, & TREATMENT ... wonderful!
http://www.lymeinfo.net/lymediseasetreatment.html

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Bettyg, Iowa


IF YOU ARE TRYING TO GET SS DISABILITY INSURANCE or LONG TERM DISABILITY BENEFITS
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There are many more links, as well as advice, in the "useful" messages
in the Files area of the website. Go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Disinissues
and click on Files.

BETTY NOTE: Look at the female MD's DETAILED BACKGROUND right below this paragraph. Print off her detailed responses as to why she could NOT do her job, and then apply that to YOUR own job as to why you no longer can do any type of sustainable work now nor in the foreseeable future!
http://www.cfids-me.org/socsec.html

Betty's note: Here is EVERYTHING about the complete SSDI process; their rules/regulations! BOOKMARK IT PLEASE as you will come back often to read up on the next steps! http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/404/404-0000.htm

These links are a compilation of several areas of interest which are
commonly requested and mentioned. They reflect the collected wisdom
of this group. Check them out - you just might find the information
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your situation, because they might be helpful anyway - what works for
Social Security may work for LTD claims, what applies to CFS may apply
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An online friend of mine from disinissues web site posted this info today, so I have copied it over here.

Subject: fibro/CFS disability info [Disinissues] what does an Functional Capacity Exam entail?

Lyme, fibro, & CFS support group members who are/will be filing for SS Disability insurance benefits, please go to the web page shown below.

There were 9 pages of info I printed below area where you can order from fibro network a 70 page packet. I too plan on including this info when I send my FINAL packet of info to chief alj before my June 16, 05 hearing...my last chance!
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Please read the site mentioned on: WHY DISABILITY TESTING FOR FMS IS OFTEN MISLEADING ADVICE FOR FM/CFS PATIENTS AND THEIR DISABILITY TEAM.....

Also after this article are the following articles:

WHAT COULD BE CAUSING DELAYED-PHASE FLARES?

BENNETT'S METHOD FOR ASSESSING FUNCTION IN FMS..

TECTONIC CHANGES IN DISABILITY LAW by lawyer Joshua Potter, CALIF.

MEDICALLY DETERMINABLE IMPAIRMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR CFS & FMS

DOCUMENTIONATION...VIEW IT AS AN INSURANCE POLICY

I printed this out in larger print for my eyes....9 pages! Will read it thoroughly and mark up 2nd copy to go to ALJudge for my 2nd hearing as medical evidence also....

http://www.ilads.org/brochures.html
The following is an announcement from ILADS:
What you need to Know about ILADS and Lyme Disease and What Psychiatrists Should Know about Lyme Disease are now available in a PDF file on the ILADS web site

(www.ILADS.org). They are in a printable version so that if you have a color printer, you can print them up yourself

bettyg, Iowa


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This is a site that I have bookmarked as a good resource...it took me over 3 years to get approved.

My very best advice...get a good attorney...one that someone you know has used and gotten good results, preferbly.

An attorney who specializes in SS will not charge you until you win and only then. So, you do NOT have to have money up front.

I had two, a really bad one that did nothing, and then I found another that without his help I would've never gotten approved.

Good luck and I hope you go to the sites you've been given...they are worth the time.


http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/disability/

Rosemary


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ArtistDi
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Thank you so much for all this help. I am
so tired of everything lately, and my husband
lost his job (he is the bread-winner and
insurance carrier), so I am in a funk right
now.

Di


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Dear Artist, Dahling,

SS does not give a rat's rear end what you have or whether your are better or whatever. The only thing that they care about is whether you can work or not. Can work work 8/5 every week. If not can you work in such and such conditons for so many hours straight.

May I strongly suggest that you get your self a SS rep or attorney who has been around the block with these people and been around the block dozens of times. You might want to find out his/her success rate.

I note that you say you are feeling better on therapy or some such foolishness. Do you want to get on SS or not? There is such a thing as saying too much or saying it the wrong way. Foot in mouth disease can be a expensive affliction.

Do you need the money? Can you work? If you cannot work then you need to establish that fact in terms that fit the rules and regulations of the SS people and you need to find somebody who knows and understands what those rules are. They are not what you think. So the first rule is do not open your big mouth and shoot yourself in the foot. I do not wish to be unkind, but an over zealous honesty does not pay the doctor's bills and does not SSDi get.

I went to two highly reputable attorney's and both turned me down. I then went to a retired SS administrator who knows the system backwards. He understood how things works. He got me what nobody else did. So instead of turning here for advice, however helpful or encouraging that may be, may I suggest that you get yourself a professional who will have an ecomonic interest in getting you your disability.

Good Luck. You are going to need it. You are also going to have to become incredibly patient, determined, persistent, unyielding and not be willing to give in to anger, frustration, despair and all the rest of it. Do not give out, do not give up and do not give in. Believe me these people are going to probably put you through the wringer.

Do not take it personally. They do this with everybody. That is what they get paid to do. However, if you do get SSDi it will be such a help. I can now pay doctor's bills, buy medicine, clothes, get my car worked on, a little, etc. etc. It is called having a life. It is worth all the aggrevation and bother. So, dear heart, gird up your loins about you and GO FOR IT!!! Cheers. TMP


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quote:
Originally posted by ArtistDi:
Thank you so much for all this help. I am
so tired of everything lately, and my husband
lost his job (he is the bread-winner and
insurance carrier), so I am in a funk right
now.
Di

Di, you mentioned your husband lost his job. Are you able to get COBRA for 18 months?

Was your hubby on a GOOD health plan where you could pay the premiums & stay on it?

Best wishes to you Di; hope you can get some answers soon.

bettyg


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Di, you have to document--thru diaries and doctors visits--that you cannot function. Cannot get out of bed. Too much pain to sit and teach art. Too dizzy, too this too that, to do work of any kind. Every single symptom you can document that shows you are essentially housebound, bedridden and cannot function to do work of ANY kind is necessary, from what I understand. The more the better, the others are right, the name doesn't count, its the symptoms that make it impossible to sit up, to teach, to drive, to function, to do anything that could earn money.
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Oxygen is right. Make sure your doctor will back you up. I was lucky because the sleep doc who said I had Idiopathic Hypersomnia/Narcolepsy suggested I appyl. I was labled drug resistent cuz I tried every drug he gave me and couldnt take any of them without compromising side effects and they didnt work anyway.

I listed all the various docs I had gone to over the past year and who knows what they said but I do know the sleep doc was on my side. I fell asleep in his office every time I saw him and the 2 day sleep test proved I couldnt stay awake.


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Thomas is right.

an ssi lawyer is also a very very good thing, especially if you are exhausted. You can't get one till you're denied. They deny most people on the first try especially if you're younger than 50.

When & if you are denied then appeal it right away and get a lawyer that specializes in ssi! That is my advice. Took me 5 years to get it. I was living in my vehicle on the street for years. Once I got a lawyer it only took another 6 months. You don't need to pay a lawyer unless you win.


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quote:
Originally posted by caat:
Thomas is right.

an ssi lawyer is also a very very good thing, especially if you are exhausted. You can't get one till you're denied. They deny most people on the first try especially if you're younger than 50.


HUH? Sorry to disagree, but, you CAN, and IMO, SHOULD get an attorney at any step in the process, especially at step One (1), beginning with the application. Having an attorney at the beginning will save you much aggrevation, and they know what to say on the initial app with the SS. Having an attorney at the beginning is important.

Just my opinion, but the getting an attorney before you are denied is a fact.

Rosemary


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