minoucat
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I have pretty awful insomnia. The only thing that is completely reliable in sending me to sleep is temazepam, which I take reluctantly. I haven't found any natural sleep aids that keep me asleep -- melatonin and some of the homeopathich (moondrops) and naturopathich (valarian/hops/passionflower) help me go to sleep, but I tend to wake up after 3 hours.
I've just discovered that Ketek seems to have been a major cause of insomnia for me. I've switched to taking it in the am rather than the pm, and have started sleeping much better.
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Who sleeps anymore once you have lyme???? No one. I've had this since 2001; been on Trazadone in beginning--now it kills my stomach-which happens with everything. I just listen to tapes sent to me from Carniege Lib in Pitts for the Handicapped and Blind(as this stuff has made me have a lot of eye damage); I fall back to sleep, but haven't slept well in years. Hope we all get sleep someday; I imagine I'll have some relief when I die maybe, but can't sleep now.
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robi
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Source Naturals 3 mg time released Melatonin helps me ........... better than befor but still not full night. Time release is important!
Tincup told me about this and itis what I am doing.....tried lots of other nast drugs which didn't help much anyway.
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I recently was forced to start backing off the ambien/lunesta, as I was taking more and more, and getting lots of nasty side effects. First, a lot of my insomnia was caused by bartonella, so rifampin/ketek has helped. But also, I was surprised that four valerian capsules, 6 mg melatonin, and one lunesta actually work. Although I sometimes still wake up once during the night, it turns out the sleeping pills were acting as depressants, which just makes insomnia worse. So I just do the dishes or some reading, and go back to sleep in an hour.
Also, chelated magnesium and calcium sometimes help.
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Has anyone gone "beyond" insomnia...and can't sleep without the help of sleep meds? I don't have the chronic pain which would cause for irregular sleep, just alot of neuro stuff.
Had some recent test on neurotransmitter and everything came back pretty squashed..hormones levels, serotonin, adrenals...and SPECT scan showed alot of probs on left side of brain with blood flow.
I used to be able to sleep 1-3 hours on my own, but can't do that anymore. Not alot of luck with the natural aids, (but am interested in time released melatonin..)anyone been this far off the sleep pattern and found it to get better?
Tried ambien, lunesta, restoril and am trying a suggestion by lymetoo on trazodone(separately)..but not alot of luck, get maybe 4 hours tops. For those with success, how did you find the 'combo" that worked for you?
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Sleep? . . . What is this thing you call sleep?
Because of my stupid Lymebrain, I only remembered a few days ago that when I was using detox foot pads, I had tremendous wonderful sleeps. I put two on -- one one each foot -- and my quality of sleep improved greatly. A totally unexpected but great side effect.
Whereas usually I can't fall asleep until between 4 AM and 7 AM, and then it's like being knocked unconscious and the next thing I know I'm awake again. Arrrgh.
So I just ordered some and this is my first night using them again. I also got today the End Fatigue "Revitalizing Sleep Formula", which has in it Valerian, Passionflower, L-Theanine, Hops, Wild Lettuce, and Jamaica Dogwood in it.
I got this from the Fatigued to Fantastic guy's website. We'll see how it works.
I can't take any narcotic sleep aids. Also, trazadone gives me gnarly nightmares and stops working after only a few days. OTC stuff is the same.
One thing about prescription narcotic sleep aids is that they can stop working after awhile and/or you need more to get you to sleep, and they can have side effects. They're meant for more short-term insomnia -- with Lyme, sleep disturbance is long-term. Arrrgh.
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Allison, Which detox foot pads are you using, please?
A long time ago when one of my dx's was CFS, I followed Dr. Paul Cheney's recommendation for sleep, as I was having a very difficult time. It has worked for about 20 years: 1 mg. of Klonopin with 1 teaspoon of Doxipen Elixer. Do not use the pill; it must be the elixer...don't know why. You go to 15 on the dropper and put it in a little water. Rarely fails to work. Sometimes I need to take .5 Ativan also.
tj
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Let's see...the ones I was using before were Kinokatara brand. I think. My spelling may be way off. Maybe Kintotakara. Anyhoo . . .
The ones I just got this week were from the company that Scott recommended. Healthmarvels.net. I loved their prices and their service is way above par.
I noticed that these foot pads are smaller than the ones I had before, quite a lot smaller. But they have all the good ingredients that the other ones had (plus a couple more).
Cheers,
Alison
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I have started Rozerem since posting this question. It is a new class of sleeping meds which just hit the market. The last 2 out of 3 nights, I had semi-regular sleep for the first time in 2+ months. Last night was so good that I actually worked my first 8 hour day in months.
Hope this might work for others.
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