Foggy
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Yes, my 30-something hair needs color. LLMD said that lt abx can causing graying and color changes.
Is this a big no no for Lymies? Are their "safer" coloring products that don't contain Mercury, Arsenic, carcinogens, or other hazards? Posts: 2451 | From Lyme Central | Registered: Aug 2001
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I've had bad flare-ups after coloring my hair. There are safer, organic alternatives available. Look in the cosmetic area of your local health food store.
Good luck!
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HEATHERKISS
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Hi Foggy,
I get my hair "done" every six to eight weeks. No problemo.
I guess it just depends on your sensitivy level.
Heather
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oh no, my secret is gonna be out. I get mine colored every couple of months. Posts: 2675 | From ct, usa | Registered: Jan 2004
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I had my hair highlighted for years while having Lyme. Then the past year and a half I haven't had it highlighted. Can't say I can tell any difference in how I feel physically.
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I have quite a crop of gray hair at 38. It began at 21.
I use a home kit now, for MEN. I don't know why they market it for men. It contains only healthy ingredients with hydrogen peroxide as the main agent. You apply it, wait five minutes, and shampoo it out.
It's "Just For Men." My husband said they probably market it particularly to men because men don't want much fuss. I really see no reason why women shouldn't use it.
It seems okay with me.
Steph
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Andie333
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I've been getting my hair highlighted for several years with no ill-effect.
I'm a redhead, and actually, I noticed the other day that my color seems to be getting a little richer since I've been on the abx.
Never done more than highlighting but have considered it.
Andie
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If you are concerned about the chemicals, you could try henna.
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I stay away from any color that has to sit on my scalp for any period of time. I recently tried a "natural" hair coloring product from the health food store and this also affected me. Foils and highlights ( off the scalp) are the only option as far as I can tell)
As far as the grey's goes- I'm happy that someone has brought this up- I have noticed it and I'm not too happy about it- still planning on looking vivacious in grey once my vitality returns....
Cheerio Sarah
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Okay...so we want to talk about grey, well how about "white"..All the color is gone in my hair and when I dye it I leave it on for 1 hour and it is almost washed out in a little over a week. I'm also looking for an alternative. I also heard about henna but from what I've read it is a two step prodecure and takes about 2 hours..yikes. I'm waiting for a book from the readers digest that talked about coloring with tea bags and herba something or other. I can't wait to see what that is all about. I do not want to go grey gracefully either. On top of all that it is falling out by the handfuls. SunnyJ
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Oh my, it's bad enough having Lyme but, gray hair? I don't think so. I really need to feel slightly better by looking better. The coloring used to cause me to get really dizzy and nauseas. But, maybe it is all the other smells and products in the salon. So, my stylist suggested I come in at dawn, before they open (no smells) or he would come to my house ($$$). He also switched me to a dye that has less toxins - can't even smell it. Doesn't last as long. But hey, I admit to this little bit of vanity to make me feel better, even if I get a little sick during the process.
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I too was worried about the time that the agent sits on the scalp. akes you wonder how much is being absorbed in the brain, and what is being absorbed, yikes! Posts: 2451 | From Lyme Central | Registered: Aug 2001
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RE: time on scalp, Revlon High Dimension (or something like that) stays on for only 10 minutes and has more depth than other brands.
The downside is, I get little pricklies the day I color my hair and the day after, despite 2 showers. So it does seem to be entering my system - never a good thing.
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I have enjoyed these posts. I'm 52 years old. I have colored my hair every shade of red on the color spectrum for 20 years. I will probably continue coloring until I have one hair left on my head!!
I have questioned the toxin thing on numerous occasions and have tried to pay attention to increased symptoms after a hair color but have not seen any. Sometimes, my neck gets out of whack and causes symptoms. I have been unemployed for one year now and that adds further guilt because it seems like a "frivolous" expenditure. I have let my roots grow out until they are long enough to cut all the red off, go au naturel, thinking it is the wise thing to do, both physically and financially. But there is that emotional component that can't be denied. When I go to the hair dresser, have my hair done, come home and look in the mirror...I am a new person. I like what I see. My countenance is lifted. I don't look as sick when my hair is vibrant and because I don't look as sick...I actually feel better!!! (Mind, body, spirit connection.)
God is my Shield, my Glory and The Lifter of my head (Psalm 3:3), but he uses my beautitian every 4-6 weeks to help!!!
Bug
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I started off colouring my hair with henna 20 years ago. I then went through various DIY chemical colours and have finally come back to henna. It's a bit of a faff sitting for a couple of hours with what looks like cow poo on your head but the result is great, it's a natural conditioner and has more of a natural look than some of the harsh chemical colours. And it's much cheaper too!
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Maybe one difference for those who feel ill after hair coloring is the amount of time it takes to color your hair. [and like beachcomber mentioned...how long you have to sit in the beauty shop and breathe in the chemicals]
My hair will highlight in 4-5 minutes! So I'm done and out of there pretty quickly. I think most people have to wait at least 20 minutes for the color to take.
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Sue vG
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For the henna users: is there a blonde henna? (Now there's a blonde question, eh?)
I know there's a neutral henna, which I thought was used for conditioning. Does that impart any gray coverage?
Can you start using henna over regular hair color?
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quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo: Maybe one difference for those who feel ill after hair coloring is the amount of time it takes to color your hair. [and like beachcomber mentioned...how long you have to sit in the beauty shop and breathe in the chemicals]
Yes L2, exactly my concern. I once fell asleep with color in!
GiGi, please inject your adept $.02 into this thread. I'm sure you've discussed this w/Dr. K (who purportedly won't touch Isopropyl Alcohol). Posts: 2451 | From Lyme Central | Registered: Aug 2001
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There is a blonde henna but I don't think it does much to change the colour, more of a conditioner. Have you tried lemon juice- put it on and just leave it. I think that cammomile is also supposed to be good to improve colour for blonds....
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From a hairdressers point of view! I have been a hairdresser for let's see almost 40 yrs. Yikes I always said I did not want to get the 25yr. watch! LOL
Anyway about haircolor. I still work and I do all kinds of hair coloring. So far I have had not noticed that I get any ill results from being in the salon with others working or myself doing haircoloring. I also color my own hair and have not had any ill effects.
There has also been many articles written about wether or not hair color will enter your system or not. So far no proof one way or the other that I have read.
However some people are just more chemical sensitive than others. That is why on every color tube I use or other color products it recommends a test on the person before you apply it all over. So you should always test a little on the inside of your arm by your elbow. If it turns red don't use it. That is only common sense.
We breathe in alot of chemicals that will hurt us just walking in a city. We have to decide what is right for each of us.
Now my hairdresser advice: DO NOT DO ANY OF YOUR OWN COLORING. I CAN ALWAYS TELL IF YOU DO. MOST OF THE COLORS SOLD HAVE A FUNNY BASE COLOR OF GREEN TONE OR PURPLE TONE AND IT IS ALWAYS NOTICABLE TO ME. Of course I am prejudice but henna I would not do as most people look like they have done henna which is not good. Sorry but true!
Well that is off the medical topic and should be on general I know. I really try not to deviate from med on this board but got carried away.
Anyway if you feel better doing it test it or have your hairdresser test it on you and then you will know.
Big hugs to all of you, Mule Posts: 124 | From Mound City MO USA | Registered: Sep 2004
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I cannot go on without my root touch up.... I hate to say this but even if I DID Get sick from the color I think I would still have it done...my mousy dark blonde REAL color is not my favorite! Posts: 437 | Registered: Sep 2004
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It is suspected that those with multiple chemical sensivities have problems detoxing - liver and gallbladder not working properly. Maybe they have the gene type?
On another note, I started to notice lots of grey hair coming in earlier this year and mentioned it to my nutritionist. We tweaked my supplements and grey hairs have been minimal (1 or 2) to none several months later. I think we increased my Bs. Kind of interesting, no?
The stress of the disease, abx etc can cause mineral vitamin depletion without a doubt.
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GiGi
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I don't have time to read all of your posts. But just want to say that if you are sick, don't use the chemical dies. Beauticians are often sick - just from the exposure; the ones I have met not only have Lyme, but also cancers. So don't do it. Dr. K. is quite firm and says it in a gentle way when someone comes in with colored nails, makeup, etc. Once I got well, he still once in a while tests the make-up etc I am using to make sure.
Stick with Henna that has no other additives to it. I am fortunate that even at my advanced age, I have barely a bit of grey. I used Light Mountain Henna for years. But there was a time when I was really close to going under that I did not test well with ART even for Henna, and so I did not use it for a while. I once made the mistake of using another brand (green box) from the health food store, all natural, and it was before I had a doctor who could test me -- I had a dripping hairline all around my head including my ears - for at least six weeks that turned into a crust overnight! Every night. It was ugly. During one of my weak periods, I used a similar natural one and it all but closed up my throat. Dr. K. prepared an antidote for me in a hurry!
As long as you are really still under the weather and your immune system is still fighting, make sure you have the substance you intend to use tested on you --- b e f o r e you use it. If it tests good one time, it doesn't mean your body likes it six months down the road.
If you start cleaning your body up from the inside, you will have the most beautiful head of shiny hair ever. I have a beautiful friend who a f ew years ago became Ms. Senior Arizona in her late sixties with a head of salt and pepper hair.
Or get yourself a great haircut instead. Just be careful - our bodies are so overloaded ----------- (for me it is past tense).
Take care.
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I agree with everything that GiGi has just said.
When I used to go to the hairdressers to have my hair coloured I would come away with a burning and itching scalp. I thought long about what I was doing and surely putting this stuff on my head couldn't be a good thing.
I had two friends that both coloured their hair regularly with dark hair dye. They both died from liver cancer, one aged 19, the other 54. I am not saying in anyway that this was the cause of their deaths but having read articals about the links between hair dye and cancer is enough to make me not want to use it.
And yes, to Mulelover, I know henna looks obviously like henna - but that's fine for me 'cos I'm happy to be a bit of a hippy! Let's face it, any change to a natural hair colour is detectable- whether it's done professionally or not!
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