troutscout
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Well...the way my body has been treating my jaw and the fact that my symptoms have actually been...getting worse. (I am on a couple of therapies at this time....long story.)
I am looking into this nproocedure....anybody here done this and have you tried the St Louis people or the Omamha group?
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No, I personally haven't done it but a friend of mine did with a doc in CO.
She didn't get any better. Her problem isn't lyme although I suspect she might have it but has been diagnosed with Lupus.
I consulted a doc in CO about this and he's a good friend of Dr. H in Reno and basically said some of his patients get better and others have no changes.
Yes I have root canals and know other people who have root canals that are healthy so I just don't know which way to go on this.
The unfortunate part is once you do it the teeth go bye bye and it may or may not be the answer. Lightfoot had it done twice and she emailed me her response. Send me your email address if you want and I'll forward on her response.
BTW, aren't you a patient of Dr. C's? Recently I heard he was looking at cavitat surgery...have you asked him?
Have you addressed mercury fillings and detoxing heavy metals?
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Hey boarder.....
I am zDR C's patient yes...but, he is like me...who has done it, and what are the results, etc.
I had all my amalgams removed...have been treating myself on and off with and without Dr assisstance for heavy metals ever since.
Over the summer my immune system actually started going after my teeth, etc...jaw area...so this was a strong indicator to me. 3(especially at night and when in certain lighting situations...for some unknown reason)
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Well...the way my body has been treating my jaw and the fact that my symptoms have actually been...getting worse. (I am on a couple of therapies at this time....long story.)
Can you elaborate on this?
Also check your email I forwarded Lightfoots response to cavitations.
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I am recovering from 4 cavitations and 3 Root Canal extractions. It took 2 months to see this through. It was very intense, glad it is over. The RCs were in the back and I will get the my partial tomorrow. Two RCs together (last back upper jaw)caused alot of bone infection/decay. I have a "chunk" gone now but you can't see it unless I show you (Thank God).
He sent the RCs to www.altocorp.com for testing. O n a scale of 0-5, I had 4&5's. Very toxic, it says these toxins suppress the enzymes that produce ATP. No wonder I am so tired.
It is to early to say if it will help but just knowing all that "crap/infection" is out of my mouth/head makes me feel better. I had been complaining to my reg. dentist for 1yr, he kept saying "the Xrays look normal" One cavation site was very big, Dr G was very surprised with that. People come from out of state to see him http://www.biologicaldentist.com/ Posts: 315 | From USA | Registered: May 2005
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Well............thanks for the reply..here's some info.....I REALLY appreciate this.
When I stopped IV abx last Feb.....Valentines Day...I had some neuro stuff still left and pain in my upper right jaw.
When I take an effective abx...it hits either my jaw OR my teeth first (occassionally...my hands and feet)
As the summer would go on.....When the sun went down...my teeth, and jaw along with my nose running at sundown.
The Tongue Also, as time has progressed when I drink/eat something cold.....I get increased environmental sensitivities. Now, I do know that I have one helluva candida infection...probably sytemic beyond belief..I have in my pharmacy two seperate scripts for anti-fungals (Lamisil, and Sporonox).
I herxed big time this last summer on flucanazole for 5 weeks...in the joints, had fevers, etc...so I am considering a full blown month off of abx just for the purpose of using a anti-fungal ONLY.
The funny thing is...whether it is an anti-fingal OR an anti-biotics...it is always the same areas that get hit.
I have bee seeing more and more anti-fungal symptoms showing after I get my Bicillin-LA shots as of lately.
Also, for years...if it went across my tongue....I felt my tongue either 'react' or I have the sensation of neuropathy (to include the taste) of whatever the invading thing was in my hands and feet.
Now...lately my lips, skin, and bladder have been weird again.
Lips....swelling up and then getting pastey after my shots
skin.....peeling and flaking like crazy
Bladder....I gotta PEEEE sister, especialyy right after my shots and when exposed to things like smells, etc.........
Something else that is weird....whenever I eat or drink ANYTHING that is abd for candida...it feels like I have "ROOTS" growing in my jaw....going into my teeth...and then my jaw, and then I get sensations in my bintestines and bladding...reaching my hands, and feet. (I think I know your advice on this. )
I am also full of arsenic....a little merc and some lead.
I KNOW I have metals that have to come out...for the candida to come out...after the ....bacteris dies off......
Now lately....when the sun goes down I get really bad...for that two hour period when evrything is adjusting to the dusk/dawn period.
Any way.....Does this answer your question?
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I didn't get that e-mail sis.
Sprout....so.wow! Nice to hear from you....
Trout
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When the bone is dead or infected, remember that the antibiotics can't get through the blood stream to those teeth or dead bone. Therefore that infection keeps simmering away. Most often staph, strep and molds/fungi are the culprits, along with lyme co-infections. I've been led to believe that unless those "bacteria factories" in the mouth aren't addressed, one may never get rid of the lyme.
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I am thinking of using the DD and ND in Omaha instead.....
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Yes paige...you are on the same path as I.
Trout
PS...our venerable poster....Gigi has preached this nfor years
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I have had a very good discussion with a bio dentist/NP from Omaha since posting this......
he seems to be wondering the same as myself....what was put in my mouth to replace the original amalgams....composites..and since I am sensitive to petro-chemicals...well, the actual fillings that replaced my mercury ones..could now be a problem for me.
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The night after the first 2 Root Canal extractions/cavitation on that side, I felt like I was reliving a time last yr when I almost DIED from a systemic staph infection in my hickman. That night I was having chills,running fever, the feeling of dying, very,very weak when going to the bathroom, etc. The next morning I was really shook up, was crying telling my husband what my night was like.
I know there was staph there! With the other cavitations/extractions I didn't have that happen (Thank God) Posts: 315 | From USA | Registered: May 2005
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Did you use a biological dentist when replacing amalgams and was a materials compatability test done?
Your mouth problems sound very strange but then again lymies have unusual symptoms.
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Nope...didn't do a compatability test...d=uh, trout.
Dr C has suspected a staph infection in my right upper jaw...why?
I react with a herx EVERY TIME I take an effective abx...and...in the nose and especially upper right jaw by the back two teeth.
So..........am going ahead with compatability test (when money is available), and possibily getting my fillings replaced...again.
Trout
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Trout, a few months ago I was doing staph freq on my rife machine. Staph came up with my muscle testing doc. The first time doing staph freq, within a few minutes my one and only root canal started throbbing like crazy.
Bingo! That root canal had never given me any problems in 6+ yrs (so I thought). It so so inflamed and throbbing for about 2 weeks and then when it was time to do a staph rife treatment it would go ballistic. Finally the rife treatments took care of it.
I believe you've used or have used a rife machine. Let me know if you're interested in the freqs I used, durations and how many times I did it.
Take care, Pam
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I am interested...you bet.
Doc C thinks.staph. with me. That and Babs. I herxed in my jaw and teeth the first time I got real close to the machine while moving it...could FEEL it in my jaw/teeth.
Trout
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This makes me scared to get a crown on a tooth that has decay in the root. Seems like I could get some of these problems. I'm almost inclined to let the decay go until it hits the nerve then pull the tooth. I've never had a root canal (tried years ago but was allergic to the gutta percha). Seems better to have less teeth, than to create a bone infection like that.
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I had this done but I only had one root canal and the rest were just amalgam fillings.
Before I went I was having TMJ symptoms and it was getting harder and harder to eat. The holistic dentist gave me some homeopathic stuff for detox but I couldnt tell if it did anything.
I only had the jaw stuff for a few weeks prior to seeing this dentist but it kept getting worse.
My TMJ symptoms did go away shortly after having the root canal removed. Oddly the root canal was on the right side and the worst clicking and pain was on the left side. Go figure.
After finishing the homeopathic stuff, about 2 weeks ago, I ordered some Chlorella and bingo, I felt so much better and still do. I have my fingers crossed.
I cannot say the this procedure was what caused the TMJ to go away but I feel it was worth my time, money & extreme effort to get myself there cuz its 70 minutes away and driving is awful when you are sooo tired.
Monday I go back to see how it has healed and see what he says.
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Trout,
There is yet another way of determing staph in the nose--have a nasal swab done and have it evaluated. The culture comes back with a listing of infectious agents and antibiotics that would effectively eradicate this.
This is one of Dr. S's (Maryland & mold) testing.
Di
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Kent & others, the frequencies I used were 453,550,1109 for staph. Three minutes each. Three times a day BLD. Two days off in between for three weeks.
These freqs were a major hit for me. I know I've got some real dental issues that need to be addressed, but it's going to have to be in the future. $$$$$$$ So with rife it's one virus, one bacteria, one mold/fungus at a time.
Take care, Pam
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Ever since they've made all this great updates, I seem to keep having double posts. I've noticed others having double posts also. Hmmmm?
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Trout I forgot to mention a big factor. At the same time I had the root canal taken out I also started taking high doses of fish oil. About 2900mgs per day divided into 4 doses.
I suspect the fish oil is the reason for almost all my joint and muscle pain to be 90% better. Its suppose to be a good antinflamitory.
That being said Im still glad I had the procedure done cuz now I dont have to think about it being part of the cause of my poor health.
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Thanks Guys,
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