Has anyone tried Dr. Broekhuyse's (from Holland)homepathic and herbal 6 week rememdy for lyme and co-infections? I am interested in trying it and would like to know what kind of results others have had with it.
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Diana, Did you try the Holland Experiment homeopathic remedy? I too am looking to see what kind of experience people have had with it. Ashley
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Ashley, I don't know if they are the same thing-I do know Dr. Broekhuyse is from the Netherlands though.
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Has anyone tried Dr. Broekhuyse's (from Holland)homepathic and herbal 6 week rememdy for lyme and co-infections? I am interested in trying it and would like to know what kind of results others have had with it.
Diana
Well, if this does work, then it may work for early stage LD. But for any late stage Lyme disease, where the person is really sick, there is no such thing as a '6 week cure'. Many late cases can take 1-3 years to go into 'remission'.
If you were to kill a late stage Lymies total bacteria load in 6 weeks, you would probably kill the person from die off.
Most LLMD's understand that getting over late stage Lyme is a case by case basis, and it takes time.
So anybody who sells a cure all '6 week' package for Lyme disease and all of the co-infections that go with it, let alone all of the variables per person, is selling snake oil IMO.
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I have advanced lyme and started treatment a few weeks ago. My LLMD recomended the herbal stuff to me to try. I went ahead and ordered it and will start it tomorrow. My understanding is that it has been very benefitial for some cases of lyme and for others not so much. Several of the lyme drs have been taking it and been pleased with it, as well as a few of their patients. It sounds like it is still "new" and they are learning more. It is not replacement for the antibiotics, but it supposed to help. I do not believe it to be "snake oil" especially due to the doctors that have been using it with sucess. Lyme is so complex, we all know it is not just one thing that will make us better, but a great combination of meds and dietary choices. I will be sure to let you all know if these help me, in a week or so, and of course at the end of the six weeks.
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My understanding is that it works on the immune system so I don't think it can be compared to abx in terms of length of treatment.I learned about from a testimonial on the hope to heal lyme dvd's I ordered. I believe Dr. Broekhuyser had lyme himself if memory serves me correctly.
I know homeopathic medicine is not as popular here in North America-but in Germany some remedies like traumeel surpass sales of things like advil and motrin.
The testimonial came from a lady that said it took some time to see the results but believes it was the reason for her recovery. She now has fda approval to bring it into the US. I believe it is a fairly new therapy.
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Yes, this is a fairly new treatment in the states. I was told it has been used in Europe for many years with success. Also, some of the patients are unable to take antibiotics or stop responding, etc. and have had good luck with these pills. My doctor left it up to me as to whether or not I try these, and we decided to go ahead and do it. I took some of them this evening, and had no trouble with them. I actually had less brain fog for a little while. You put them under your tongue and wait five mintues...I was glad to find out they really don't have much taste and are easy to do. It was suggested that I try these because we think I got sick from being in Europe and than an additional bite in the states is what completely did me in. I am allergic to alot of things, so it was hoped by boosting my immune system and calming some things down, antibioics, and pain meds would work better. We are going to call the company tomorrow because it says to not have mint or caffeine while taking the pills...I want to find out why that is, and what happens if you do.
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What's the company, and who is importing them? TIA.
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Go to lymeresource.com-the company was formed by someone who has lyme disease and has gotten better using this remedy.
The remedy is in part, homeopathic, which means coffee and mint are no no's -they interact with the remedy making it less effective.
I need to wean myself off of coffee before I can do this treatment
I recall reading something about a homeopathic practitioner in the US somewhere that had really good success treating lyme with homeopathic medicine. Anybody know the name of this clinic/doctor?
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Is it necessary for the site to be so amazingly vague? OI VEY! Posts: 2276 | From united states | Registered: Jun 2004
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The ingredients are fairly unimpressive IMHO.
But hey....if it works for you, God bless.
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Learn about something before you slam it. Dr B does not claim you will be cured in 6 weeks. The formulation addresses borellia and all known co-infections. It equips the immune system so it can produce the necessary antigens needed to kill the bacteria. You take the formulation for 6 weeks, then you let your equipped immune system do its job. Nikki Upchurch was a physical therapist before she was strickened with Lyme and became totally disabled. She went through all the antibiotic courses without success for several years before trying this formulation. Within 6 mths, she was cured. She spoke at the "Hope for Healing Lyme" conference held in Reston, VA in May of this year. All the top LLMD's were at this conference. You can order the full set of DVDs (11 Hrs) for $49. I ordered them from this website and have found the information to be very good. Some of the doctors are purely conventional, some purely alternative and some a mix. There is no cure that works 100% for all people. However, before I throw extremely strong, damaging chemicals into my body whose sole purpose is to destroy, I will try the softer, safer approach of alternative medicine that works by building up and supporting your immune system. Afterall, I have had Lyme disease 10 yrs, 6 more months will not do me harm. If I do not get 100% recovery, I will move on to the more damaging western medicine in hopes that if it doesn't kill me, it might cure me. We are so brainwashed to think we have to destroy half our body in order to be effective when it is well known and well documented that the immune system is perfectly capable of producing the antigens needed. Yes I am well aware the bacteria mutates and hides even from our immune system. That is the purpose of the homeopathic remedy. "Like cures Like" It is not Lyme disease but it is the essence of Lyme. So when you take it, your immune system recognizes the bacteria and creates the needed antigens which then kill the real bacteria. The herxing is just as bad as with antibiotics. The difference I am feeling between the homeopathy used this time and the antibiotic treatment used 10 yrs ago is my energy level. I am strong this time, but was so weak before, I felt I could just fade away and die. I attribute this to the destroying effect of antibiotics as opposed to the supportive effect of homeopathy. Good luck in whatever you try. Getting well is all we really want.
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You state 'We are so brainwashed to think we have to destroy half our body in order to be effective when it is well known and well documented that the immune system is perfectly capable of producing the antigens needed.'
But the whole point of borrelia is that it has a VLSE mechanism in which it is constantly changing its antigens. There is no obvious unchanging antigen except OspA which is upregulated in the tickgut but not in humans and which is highly immunogenic for some of us and which is why the vaccine based on OspA was so dangerous and caused some people to get horribly ill.
So your explanation makes no sense. Our immune systems DO generate antigens, its not that they're so dumb they don't know borrelia is there. It's that the antigens are constantly rendered useless by borrelia's VLSE mechanism.
In addition they say nothing on the website about the ingredients at all so it really makes one think its a scam. THe information is so scarce as to be negligible.
There is a homeopathic remedy out there called Enliven where at least we know what he did: he actually collected ticks from the upper midwest and made a homeopathic remedy from their bugs.
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I'll just put out there that I have talked to Nikki and people that have used this personally and am in the process of doing their urine test now. We'll see what they suggest when the test is completed. The web site is http://www.vonner.citymax.com/page/page/1593665.htm.
I think any and almost all options are worth researching. Clearly ABX are not the answer. I still don't know of anyone with Lyme that recovered fully and remained recovered after stopping ABX long-term UNLESS they were doing other non-ABX methods at the same time.
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Diana, Amen sister on the Traumeel. We have the tablets and the cream and its great. Here in the St. Louis area, I have been going to an MD who is also a classically trained homeopath from Germany. He turned me on to remedies for myself and my colicy baby. And here's the but....He doesn't believe me about Lyme and won't treat me. Gave me an ELISA which was neg and stopped right there. We butted heads big time and I haven't been to him in months. I'll keep reading about this remedy and maybe gather info and visit him again. Posts: 460 | From Illinois | Registered: Aug 2005
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I was at the Hope to Heal conference and heard the pitch, and yes it was amazing to hear Nikki got so well......that's fantastic!!
My friend who accompanied me bought the product and did the protocol and it did nothing for her. She didn't even notice feeling a tiny bit better.
Just thought I'd add my 2 cents from someone I know who personally tried it......
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Did your friend just try the product recently? I seem to recall it took Niki about 6 months to start seeing improvement. Thanks a lot for giving us your two cents!
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I'm dutch myself, and I'm pretty sure you won't be wanting to go to this person. I myself would not go so far as to call him a doctor.
This is the same person who had our celebrity Sylvia Millecam believe she could cure her breast cancer with these homeopathic things. Of course, as you know, she died and this guy got sued. And it wasn't the first time such a lawsuit occured. He has also been suspended as a doctor for various reasons, all having to do with not treating patients adequatly and telling them not to see other doctors and not to take their antibiotics or drugs against cancer.
There are way better Lyme doctors in Germany.
Love, Daphne
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quote:Originally posted by SForsgren: I think any and almost all options are worth researching. Clearly ABX are not the answer. I still don't know of anyone with Lyme that recovered fully and remained recovered after stopping ABX long-term UNLESS they were doing other non-ABX methods at the same time.
I do know people who used antibiotics only and are fully recovered and have stayed that way. I personally think that it is useful to add some supportive and alternative therpies, but I am tired of the stories that antibiotics never work.
These stories are made up and passed along from person to person. Of course there are many on these boards who are not getting well. But they are only a fraction of those treated. Many do perfectly well in treatment.
Their immune systems are not destroyed by antibiotics, and they move on with their lives. Do some real research! Yes, some cannot tolerate abx. Yes, they don't work 100% for everyone. But they are not the instruments of the devil.
They are a useful tool against an organism that has been proven over and again to effectively evade a fully functioning, aggresive immune response.
If homeopathy and other remedies work for you, great! But it is a shame to demonize one of the known possible tools we have.
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I appreciate your comments, but I stand behind the statement that ABX alone are not the answer. They may be part of the answer, but I have not seen anyone with chronic Lyme recover and stay well with only ABX. There are needs for detoxification protocols, supplements, exercise, stress management, immune-boosting protocols, etc. in addition to ABX. ABX may get people out of a hole, but they as a rule, don't solve the problem alone unless you are dealing with acute Lyme.
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I'm sorry, but you not knowing anyone who got well on abx alone does not make it true. Maybe you need to do some more research. I cannot give you names because they are not mine to give. But I'm sure every Lyme doctor has at least some successes or they couldn't stay in business long.
Maybe your focus has tended to put you into a certain group of people. That is fine. I just think you shouldn't state as fact something that you don't actually know.
I don't disagree with you that supplemental therpies are useful. I just don't think they are essential for every single patient. Each one is unique, and will have their own needs in getting well. I think it is a shame that the alternative people are setting themselves up in such opposition to the conventional treatments. It really isn't necessary.
If anything, I think it unlikely that people will get well, WITHOUT abx. I don't know any who have. However, I imagine that there are some who have, and as more attention is paid to the illness, hopefully protocols will come up that will be successful.
But I know some of the people who have been very active in the alternative field, and I don't know a single one who got well without the use of abx. Most of the ones who refuse to use it are still struggling along at partial recovery. Maybe that is all they would achieve with abx, I don't know, but it isn't complete recovery.
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I do not disagree that ABX are important for many (or even most) people to recover. I stated that they are not "the" answer and I do not believe that they are "the" answer. They may be "part" of the answer, but too many people also think that taking ABX will solve the problem alone and I contend that it will likely not. I do take ABX, btw, but I don't expect that they will in and of themselves resolve chronic Lyme and provide long-term recovery after stopping.
We may actually not be that far apart in what we believe here. I stated:
I still don't know of anyone with Lyme that recovered fully and remained recovered after stopping ABX long-term UNLESS they were doing other non-ABX methods at the same time.
That statement implies that ABX were a part of the solution but that if they were the only part of the solution, I am not convinced that the outcome is as successful.
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Scott, you're wrong. I know several people who got well on antibiotics alone, tolerated them really well, and did them for months to years in very late lyme and are well.
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I guess there are two schools of thought here. In any event, we are all working towards the same hopeful end goal - recovery from Lyme Disease. I have my opinions which I am entitled to and others have their opionions which they are entitled to.
In some ways, it is better in the long-run that we approach this in several different ways. Hopefully, it will lead to avenues that prove to be successful. If we all went down the same path and it were the wrong one, that would be unfortunate.
So I for one am happy to see debate, disagreement, different paths, options and hopefully solutions.
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It was my acupuncturist who first thought I had Lyme disease, after a dozen ducks failed to even test me.
She's also an herbal and Chinese medicine specialist.
When I asked her about the efficacy of longterm abx, in addition to herbs and Chinese meds (as well as other supplements) her comment was this: If you were Chinese, chances are you'd treat Lyme with antibiotics along with herbs.
This is a complicated disease, fully manifesting at different times and in very different symptomatic ways for each of us.
I try to stay open-minded about things but try not to be gullible. There are a lot of Lymies, and I have no doubt there are equally as many people out there ready to exploit this population. I lost several friends to AIDS in the early years, and I remember them dealing with this too.
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I think you make some very valid points. I have about 200 hours of reading behind me now since being diagnosed earlier this year and I still can't figure out how people are recovering. So many different things work for different people. I was told by a llmd that ILADS has admitted that abx are not a "cure" for lyme but that does not mean they don't put us into remission. Everyone seems to know someone that got better using a different treatment or combination of treatments.
I have yet to see any organizations/llmd's that give any kind of stats on recovery using any methods. Not even sure if this is possible considering the complexities of lyme, co-infections, strains and length of infections but I know that it is difficult to make decisions about your treatment based on what has worked for a handful of others.
I really feel for the people that are too sick to comprehend and absorb information and must only rely on the advise of their docs! I don't know if my choices are the right ones but I am thankful for lymenet and being able to read about others experiences with their treatments.
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I agree with you, Diana, about the difficulty of trying to sort out all the information and all the treatments -- doing all this without any facility for science AND with Lyme-brain, to boot!
I recently sent a pm to someone who also sees my LLMD and has gotten vastly improved since starting treatment. I figured I'd get some inside info.
Turns out the LLMD had given this person an entirely different treatment protocol than mine -- but then their worst symptoms were different than mine, too.
So I figured that, despite research I can do on my own, there's still a lot of faith and trust involved.
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quote:Originally posted by SForsgren: I'll just put out there that I have talked to Nikki and people that have used this personally and am in the process of doing their urine test now. We'll see what they suggest when the test is completed. The web site is http://www.vonner.citymax.com/page/page/1593665.htm.
I think any and almost all options are worth researching. Clearly ABX are not the answer. I still don't know of anyone with Lyme that recovered fully and remained recovered after stopping ABX long-term UNLESS they were doing other non-ABX methods at the same time.
The link doesn't work. Do you have any other links? What is their urine test?
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A big reason why it seems no one gets well from abx is this website where everyone talks of how long they have been on abx and how sick they still are and how the best they can hope for is 60-90% of normal. Also medical research reports show that abx only work for acute lyme and do not seem to be effective for chronic lyme. Possibly this website is skewed because the only lymies chatting are those who are still sick. Gi-Gi is the only postee I can recall who has been without symptoms for any length of time. When people get well, maybe they quit coming here. But that doesn't change the medical reports. I'm sorry to hear someone tried the Netherlands formula with no results and even more sorry to hear from dafje of Dr Broekhuser (sp?) bad reputation in the Netherlands. My LLMD is using only homeopathy on me and I am having great results. I plan to ask him about Dr B's formula, and I don't mind that someone had no results, after all, many people have no results from abx too. Dafje words though are having a strong impact. I do not know when I contracted Lyme. 10 yrs ago I had a mystery illness that lasted 6 mths with chronic fatigue and migratory joint pain. The doctors suspected Lyme as well as R.A., Lupus, etc. Test were negative but they gave me a rounds of different antibiotics for 6 mths including doxycycline. After 6 mths we thought I had recovered until now. No one realized that the migraines, stiff neck, hearing loss I was suffering over the next 10 yrs were actually due to lyme. Furthermore, when I was about 6, my mother pulled 21 ticks from my head. From then on I suffered chronic tonsilitis, bronchitis, strep throat until I was an adult. It then went into allergies and asthma. I did not go one year of my life from age 6 without taking some form of antibiotic. Even as an adult, when we began to fear excessive antibiotic treatments, I could not go one year without having to have antibiotics. So, if antibiotics could cure my Lyme, it should have already done so. In fact, the bacteria should never have been able to take effect. I'm a walking pharmacy! I did not seek alternative medicine for this Lyme. My doctor is an MD and when he explained why antibiotics can't kill this bacteria and that he felt homeopathy could, it was music to my ears. I have already developed an allergy to Keflex. The thought of IV abx scares me to death. I do believe all of our bodies are different as are our particular bacterial infections. Had I gone to an MD who wanted to use abx, that is what I would be on now. I really feel it is most important to get to a highly trained doctor who is lyme literate and then trust them to choose the best path for you.
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It may be relevant to your discussion that my wife and I both have recovered from late-stage neuroborreliosis, with herbal treatment only. We also exhibited some of the Morgellons symptoms that are now gone as well. Our initial treatment was 4 weeks of low dose doxycycline. That didn't even take the edge off our brain fog or other symptoms, so we started Samento, Teasel, Sarsaparilla, Silver, Grape Seed Extract, Olive Leaf Extract, Garlic, and many other herbs. Within a couple of weeks the fog and arthritic symptoms began to lift. Now after 18 months of just herbals, select minerals, and dietary changes, we are 100% symptom free, and seem to be healthier than we were before contracting Lyme disease. We are anecdotal walking proof that herbs can bring you back to good health.
Blue Skies............John
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Hi JWF :Question to JWF : How long were you both sick for?
Hi Luvs2ride What does this mean "The essence of Lyme" Does lyme have an essence?
Thank you and Take care
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My understanding is that ELISA works only if you've been biten recently. I had 2 ELISAs--both negative. I did Western BLot at Igenex--IgM is positive by both CDC and Igenex protocol.
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What dose of doxy did you take? I was on 200 2x a day and was so photosensitive I had to stop but I felt like it was doing something. Very impressive that you cured yourselves with herbs! Thanks for writing in and giving us hope. I'm a newbie and am depressed at how long the road to recovery is.
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quote:Originally posted by jwf: It may be relevant to your discussion that my wife and I both have recovered from late-stage neuroborreliosis, with herbal treatment only. ..... Our initial treatment was 4 weeks of low dose doxycycline.
John, I don't really think you can say that you were treated herbally only, if you took four weeks of doxycycline.
We still don't know how all of this works, and how things interact. I would consider you a case where a combined approach worked, which is the most common thing that I see. Maybe all you needed was that initial boost from the abx. Yes, you felt worse. Perhaps you were experiencing die off.
I HEAR a lot of people say that they tried IV abx, and it didn't work, so then they tried herbs, and VOILA, suddenly they are well. Therefore, they claim, they were cured by herbs, or salt/c, or silver, or some other natural treatment. There just isn't any way to tell what was the deciding factor. Doxy is not IV, but you still took abx. Would you have gotten well without it? No way to tell, now. Have you eradicated the infection? Time will tell.
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I tried these remedies and saw no effect.
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Not to mention that Samento, oil of oregano, and many other herbs are really abx. People are fooling themselves if they think that they are off of abx while still having to take strong herbs. I did all the herb stuff, and it does help, but I was still going downhill on them. My Insurance doesn't cover herbs, so it was all out of pocket.
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I forgot to mention that our herbals included many nonprescription antibiotics. Garlic, Samento (Cat's Claw), Sarsaparilla, Graviola, and Silver all have antibacterial action. My feeling is that there is a synergism that is hard to find with prescription antibiotics. We were Lymies for 1 1/2 years before we took the Doxycycline (200 mg./day) for 1 month. Maybe that did start the healing process, but it was evident that our herxing didn't start until 2-3 weeks into the Cat's Claw. The dif- ference was striking. The most potent combination of herbs for those on a limited budget seemed to be Cat's Claw from RainTree, Sarsaparilla, Grape Leaf Extract, Kyolic Garlic (103 & 105), and Graviola. If you have Babesia, Artemisinin is recommended, and it also fights Lyme. If you are also fighting Candida because of abx or diminished immunity, Oregano, Olive Leaf Extract, and Pau d'Arco, are excellent. Herbs will not be the answer for everyone with Lyme disease and co-infections, but we feel it is money well spent. Combining herbs with prescription antibiotics is an area that might be better explored.
Blue Skies...........John
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The road to recovery is long, but oh so worth it.
I've learned so much about health in fighting Lyme that I feel ready for anything now.
My son and I were both diagnosed in 2002, and both had significant Lyme encephilitis, Bartonella, Mycplasma and I also had Babesiosis.
We were with two top LLMD's and had heavy abx for the first two years including IV. With that we took the 'usual' supplements as per Doc B's Guidelines.
That did get us out of the hole we were in absolutely but did not make us well, and also created other issues.
I agree that it would be much more difficult to get well if it were on abx alone.
Detox is essential, as is treatment for intestinal parasites, many treatments over the long term..organ cleansing, change in diet, excercise..
and we have strictly and steadily utilized herbal and also food nutrient therapies.
We changed our water quality and each drink about a gallon a day, and eat nothing processed and no refined sugar or flour.
We drink REAL Kefir several times a day for probiotic and gut health. I've just started making my own Kombucha tea..so this is a new addition. I will post on both of these because I think Lyme patients could really benefit from them.
Everything we are doing is geared not only toward infection, but even moreso toward engaging and clearing the way for our own immune systems to work. A balance between the two approaches is necessary, IMO, because of what Oxygenbabe said.. Bb in particular has a whole slew of tricks up it's sleeve.. so I do think you need things that will be effective against the organisms, but it needs to be something that does not impede the immune system that much, or at least does not cripple it.
..and of paramaount importance is working diligently to keep eliminative organs working optimally throughout.
WHENEVER that is disfunctional we get sicker, lymph nodes swell, and symptoms worsen. This has been our experience over a long period of time.
Everything we are doing is utilized, committed to and assesed over a very loooooong period of time.. no expectations for quick results.
We are getting better all the time, tho still not close to 100%, my son still can't make a full day of school - but have been on a steady incline over the past year since starting the alternative therapies. One year ago he could not even handle more than an hour of tutoring.
The gains however, feel very solid.
In retrospect, I would have worked harder to start alternative therapies sooner.
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Hello, for those that don't know me, I use to be on this board everyday for about 2 years. Now I am a lurker and everyonce in awhile I just have to post.
After 1-1/2 years of abx I was better but not the person I once was. Someone told me about a homeopathic doctor (who is actually in my area) that specializes in lyme. I started going to him and I started felling better and better. It is not an overnight healing. It takes a good 3-6 months before you realy notice any changes after about a year I felt like my old self. After about a year and half I decided I was well and it was time to have a baby. She is 7 months old!! When you start the homeopathics you may have some herxing (not as bad as abx) but you still get the die off effect. I also don't think a single protocol works for everybody. The thing with going to a Homeopathic doctor is that they are going to create a program that fits you. I don't think you can guess and purchase products at a store or that there is a single program that works for everyone. I highly recommend going to a Homeopathic Doctor, it is expensive but well worth it. I use to say I'd rather be poor and healthy than poor and unhealthy. The guy I go to is in Warminster PA.
Stay Strong Ebbyban
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luvs2ride
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Yea Ebbyban! Thanks for your post. I am going to a Med. Dr who is also a board certified homeopathic and he is treating me completely with homeopathy. He explained to me why abx do not work. I am in my 3rd month of treatment and feel really strong and good. My migraines, hot flashes and brain fog lifted immediately. The joint pain at first increased dramatically and is milder now and the only symptom I now experience. It is cyclical with a couple of painfree days each week. I'm most amazed at how strong I feel internally. I don't have any of the fatigue. I really feel I am going to beat this, but it is also nice to hear from someone else who has.
5dana8 - I don't know how to explain the "essence of Lyme". They take the actual borellia bacteria and dilute it so completely only the essence remains. This is how I have read homeopathy works and the more diluted it is, the stronger it is. All I know is I can feel it working.
check out this website for more information. www.boiron.com
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SForsgren
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Are you suggesting your Lyme remedy comes from Boiron?
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