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Severe jaw (and ear) pain was my first Lyme symptom. It comes and goes now but is much milder. Hatsnscarfs
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Carol in PA
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pq: Hot compresses to increase circulation to the area. Alternately, ice packs to reduce circulation. Hmmm...whichever feels better, I guess.
I don't remember seeing this particular problem before.
Hope you feel better soon. Carol
p.s. How about Carnation instant breakfast, you can drink it with a straw.
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This is the first I've read about anyone having swelling along with the jaw pain.
What did your dentist say?
I have experienced the awful pain in teeth and jaw and ears. I was gritting my teeth in my sleep becuase of the pain and I'd catch myself doing it during the day.
Gritting and grinding sure did not help.
When I went to the dentist and had 4 cavities!!!!!!
I still had pain after fixing my teeth. I thought maybe they didn't get the cavities or did the filing wrong.
The pain slowly went away with the antibiotics. but I have had 2 more cavities.
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Did you ever have dry mouth that you associated with Lyme? In any event, one of the reasons that TMJ is aggravated in Lyme is that the host's glandular system is many times inflamed. We have a large salivary gland behind the jaw joint which can exert force against the tissue and give a "full" feeling to the ear and jaw joint.
In my case all my glands were swollen and hardened, but never sore. Try explaining that to a duck.
What worked for me was a combination of watching what I ate, and how I ate it (chewed), and periods of jaw relaxation where I positioned my head and neck for maximum support and then let my jaw find a nuetral position. I sat there for hours looking like an overdosed patient at a psych ward. Even had drool coming out the corners of my mouth from time to time.
The hot packs are probably a good idea as well.
My �.02
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Sorry all but I'm so glad to hear others are experiencing these symptoms too. I'd posted before about the TMJ and ear pain but didn't get these specific responses.
My TMJ is more just popping sensations and cracking noise when eating...no real pain. but my teeth are often clenched, I have the ear pain, tinitis and crickety neck...big time.
Is the salvilary gland inflamation assoicated with Bp, babs or bart or all three?
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Hi All, Thanks for your replies. 1 tablet(325mg.) of aspirin helped a lot.
happened again this a.m. when biting into eng.muff., so i dunked the muff. into the tea.
not actual jaw joint pain, but muscle(s) from point of mid ear and downward is swollen out. i feel it within both ears but the left most intensely.
I believe the rule-of-thumb in dentistry is cold, NOT hot is applied to the outside, on and off. will try the cold today.
dentist not seen yet. this is not a dental problem in the sense of dentition.
this is very common with lyme, but theres a paucity of infromation on it.
i've had this occur years ago due to lyme. a fellow lymie, to whom this also happened,gave me some instructions to help it, but part of which i forget but it did help,albeit not immediately.
anyway it goes something like the following:
relax the lower jaw,[extend forward, relax again] grab it, and push it back into the socket.
too bad our fellow lymie,"resident" dentist no longer posts here.
Thanx again y'all sore as hell, pq
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just my two cents on this: I suffered pain in my tooth for several months I kepting going to the dentist to isolate the problem he kept shaving my tooth down eventually i had him remove the tooth.. every xray did not show a thing.. no cracks, no fractures, no hair line splinters. I insisted the tooth come out. he shook his head and removed it.. strange but until the full regimine of abx for the tooth extraction was compltete the tooth (which was no longer there) still hurt like the devil! It's those blasted keets! it realy is.. tooth gone and for nothing!
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thanx for your input. aspirin and cold pack are doing the job. this is not a tooth problem. its a muscle, joint, and nerve thing. the tmj joint is probably decayed, i'd imagine.
i did read bleiweiss' mention of this.
has anyone had an mri, and if so was this mri done with a low strenght or high strength mri, meaning magnetic strenght?
last i heard,the one or the other strenght is diagnostically superior for given sections of the body. best i recall, the low strenght mri, might be more revealtory for certain soft tissues.
has anyone heard anything about the different strenths of the mri, and their diagnostic utility?
welcome, no dry mouth.
glands (lymph nodes) palpable with 'finger-dig'(they are not supposed to be palpable, i believe), but not sore. Many dental infections in the past. they're probably minimally involved with this current problem, though.
years ago i had a problem with the glands due to lyme. miserabe then. they went down with Tx. was on my knees, with my neck and jaw sandwiched between two phlanges of the radiator, looking out the window...
adding to the problem is missing back lower teeth on one side. this creates compressive and other physical forces in the joint and mandible itself; eventual joint structure problem.
plant and animals enzymes(which i've been off of for months), gentle downward massage, slightly warm heat should help open them up, and clear the shale out. gotta do lymph drainage therapy.
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FWIW,just an update, swelling is dwon. (aspirin X 325mg.) + (cold pack) = good results. hard mass left. soreness upon moving mass about with fingers. will try slightly warm compress to see what happens.
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pq: Good, I'm glad to hear this, and I hope it continuous to improve.
Carol
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Swelling and pain in jaws and knee were some of my first lyme symptoms, going back to 1995/96.
My jaw joint would at times get get so swollen that the jaw dislocated, and I had to go to the emergency room to have it put back in place. The EM took X-rays, but they didn't reveal anything.
At that time I had no idea that my jaw joint problems were due to an infectious disease, and it took another 8 years to get diagnosed with lyme.
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Swelling and pain in jaws and knee were some of my first lyme symptoms, going back to 1995/96.
My jaw joint would at times get get so swollen that the jaw dislocated, and I had to go to the emergency room to have it put back in place. The EM took X-rays, but they didn't reveal anything.
At that time I had no idea that my jaw joint problems were due to an infectious disease, and it took another 8 years to get diagnosed with lyme.
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my all teeths hurt since 5 years all the time, my jaw hurts also like this. I had removed four 8`ths because of it and i was wearing orthodontic device for year. Nothing helped ever, not a little bit. aspirin helps me too but how long can i take it, it is only paliative
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``They also tend to have TMJ, which has been linked to abnormalities of hyaluronic acid. Perhaps not coincidentally, hyaluronic acid is dependent upon magnesium for its synthesis.''
``Nutritional supplements may help in treating TMJ problems. Some of the most useful: Calcium and magnesium. These minerals are essential for proper muscular function and have a sedative effect. B-complex vitamins. Take 100mg, 3 times a day. Pantothenic acid. 100mg, twice daily. B-complex vitamins and pantothenic acid are essential for combating stress. Coenzyme Q10. This is another stress fighter. L-Tyrosine and Vitamins B6 and C. These will improve sleep quality and alleviate anxiety and depression. Multivitamin and mineral complex.'' (6)
Source # 6 is: Get Healthy Now! With Gary Null by Gary Null. Published 1999 by Seven Stories Press, 140 Watts Street, New York, NY 10013.
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in the e.r., how did they put your jaw back into place? what did they tell you to do, just before putting it i place?
how did they grab your jaw and head if the grabbed your head, as well?
there is a simple technique that i was told over the phone, years ago when this happened due to lyme. i'm no longer on talking terms with the person who told me this, so i can't call the person.
knowing how to re-adjust the jaw, many could avoid an unnecessary trip the e.r.
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Hi this happens to me too. I thought it was my teeth and wanted my dentist to pull all them out..did x-rays..nothing wrong. He said it was the lyme.
Then my jaw totally locked up unable to open my mouth. I've had too much of the er/hospitals so I laid flat with a moist hot pack on my neck and jaw for days taking muscle relaxants and it finally calmed down.
It is very painful.My daughter has tmj& went to the er when her mouth got stuck open from yawning. They gave her many shots of valium to relax the muscle and somehow released the jaw.
They showed her how to put her fingers inside to snap it back in place but don't remember how. Just know I couldn't do it. Hope your dentist or the er can show you how.
Once you learn it you will remember it, I hope...Great luck always....
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