Topic: How many are EBV (Epstein Barr Virus) positive?
livinlyme
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okay same questions here I am not looking through my stack I just know I am positive... anyone with numbers.. Marine how to treat this one?
okay I know the cardio's are high too in some who suffer the arthritis pains but i can bet I know who would have them high and antibitoics bring that to check after a few months.. right
well for most in my encounters the joint pains are almost the first ones to go..
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Ditto here....before I got diagnoised with lyme, the EBV levels were the first to come up...had very high levels on IgG and IgM, though never have had mono at anytime.
Like Scott said, most population carries the virus..though why it "pops" I'm guessing due to immune system stressing...?
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I've noticed that there are alot of people that are positive for epstein and also have high herpes simplex virus as well..
I am EB+ and very high HSV too!
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Yes, yes and yes.
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IGM is neg but IGG is > than 1:640. EBV was what they first thought I had. 1:640 is very high on the IGG, most people who have had the EBV, over time it goes to the range of 1:100 or lower and will stay that way for most of their life.
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It was explained to me by a LLNP that although most of the population tests positive for prior exposure to EBV, Lymies (and others with suppressed immune systems) have it in a chronic form.
Here is something I found that may be of interest:
"EBV is classified as a member of the herpes-virus family based upon it's characteristic morphology.
EBV infection may demonstrate a wide spectrum of clinical symptoms. The majority of primary EBV infections are transmitted via saliva, occur during childhood, and are subclinical.
In the U.S., 50% of the population demonstrate EBV antibodies before the age of 5 years; 80% by adulthood. Transfusion-associated EBV infections have also been reported. In young adults, EBV infection may be clinically manifested as Infectious Mononucleosis (IM) with typical symptoms of sore throat, fever, and lymphadenopathy. College students and military personnel are often cited as a high morbidity incidence population for IM.
Following primary EBV infection, it is postulated that the B lymphocyte may continue to harbor the EBV genome and establish a latent infection that may extend through life.
Reactivation of EBV infection or enhanced EBV activation has been documented in immunodeficient or immunosuppressed patients, i.e., organ transplant patients, individuals with malignancies, pregnant women, and persons of advanced age."
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I am EBV positive and also positive HHV6a. Kathy
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wow and the list gets longer thank you gang I knwo the LLMD said that it was very common now to see the list of the ANA...
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best i recall, one radio pharmacist said, or implied, that lysine was good for any herpetic virus--ebv(HH5?), cmv, HH6('A TO Z'), and so on.
this seems to make sense, since there isn't much difference in their genomes, meaning the number of nucleotide sequences that comprise their respective DNA ; and from the latter the expression of their surface proteins.
while i test positive for ebv, i have no external physical manifestations of this, e.g. herpes sores, blisters. so i'm a bit confused.
back in c.2000,with the one course of flagyl i took, i had some kind of rash out break on my shins, which disappeared, either during or shorty after stopping the flagyl.
since some lit. i read, stated that flagyl will cause some kind of herpetic rash to appear, i figured this supported the lab results for ebv.
if i'm not mistaken, i believe the lit. that i read, mentioned the chicken pox virus manifested with flagyl therapy. again, the shin rash disappeared either during or after cessation of the flagyl. i correlated the disappearance of the rash as a manifestation of a good immune system response, probably a rebound effect of macrophages, at the least, increasing in number, and/or function, since flagyl is supposed to kill macrophages as a side-effect. this last statement on macros and flagyl, i believe came form arthritistrust.org. i did develop numbness and tingling in my legs(neuropathy) on the flagyl, whereupon experiencing it, i immediately stopped the flagyl, and with that disappeared the neurapathy.
i went afield abit here, but FWIW, i figured i'd get a little tangential.
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according to my research, the amino acid lysine is, in at least 1-2 ways, intimately involved with Bb.
lysine seems to be one key link,somehow linking lyme and herpetic infections. i'm therefore a bit suspicious about taking lysine, given my lyme infection.
i'm not sure if large doses of lysine would feed, and/or hinder Bb growth and development.
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I agree with pq... I used to take lysine before having the lyme and now if I take it I get an increase is lyme like symptoms. I can't explain it though. If anyone has the answer please e me or post it.
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Last blood tests I had in February showed a recent exposure to EBV.
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