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I have been off my beloved Zith/Mepron combo for SEVERAL days due to some serious herxing issues. I was giving myself a much needed abx vacation.
During that time - I also have used an occasional drop of Oil of Oregano in my mouth because I have a tooth in need of a freaking ROOT CANAL and I heard the Oil of Oregano is great with pain & infection...which apprently it is.
TODAY - a few hours after a STRESSFUL EVENT - I suddenly became EXCESSIVELY MISERABLE!
My throat hurts; I have a temp of 100.0; my body hurts more than normal (or so it seems); headache; minor earaches; weak as a little kitten -- just shifting positions in bed is semi-traumatic...
But I have no extra mucous production so far.......thank goodness.
So here it is Friday afternoon and my LLMD is away at the Lyme conference with your LLMD and I don't know what the @#$% is going on.
Can I be having a MAJOR HERX even after being off abx for about a week now?
OR
Can I be having a MAJOR HERX off the Oil of Oregano drops I had earlier in the week?
OR
COULD I BE GETTING THE FREAKING FLU???
So far I have taken up to 3 GRAMS of Vitamin C today - trying to beat back whatever this is...of course now I'm afraid to go to sleep (despite my fatigue) because what if 3 GRAMS is PAST my bowel tolerance? (If you read my blog - you'll know why I am so concerned about that...)
I'm thinking about taking some collodial silver -as a natural anti-viral and/or maybe some more Oil of Oregano - as it too has anti-viral properties...but then the question is:
WHAT IF I HERX EVEN MORE!?!?! I don't know if I can handle that.
Meanwhile - I do have a prescription for Tamiflu for such an occasion as this...but I certainly don't want to waste it - it's like GOLD right now.
SO -- How DO you tell the difference between a MAJOR HERX, the FLU, or just an overly dramatic Lymie gal that desperately needs to be sedated???
Thank you in advace for your kindness. If you're not in the mood to be kind to me, kindly post elsewhere.
Distant Hugs & -- don't get my germs,
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quote:Originally posted by DR. Wiseass: Can I be having a MAJOR HERX off the Oil of Oregano drops I had earlier in the week?
That would be my guess....especially since you have admitted in public that you do not follow a low carb, sugar free diet!
ARRRGGHH!! I wish there WAS a way to tell the difference between that and the flu. I would think fever would be the defining factor.
Why don't you try taking NOTHING until Sunday. If the fever is gone or mostly gone, then we know it's not flu. [I hope.] If you feel a tad better, then it's likely the oregano. [if you felt worse, then it might be lack of abx.]
It's my understanding that oregano is potent stuff. it may be killing viruses and yeast for you....oh joy!
You just need someone to sit with you and hold your hand. Shall I come right over and fluff up your pillow? Bring you a hot toddy? Cook supper for you? Read from a book? Watch a funny movie?
All of the above?? wish I could be there!
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quote:Originally posted by paige1: OR, it could be an infection in the tooth and/or bone that's making you have those symptoms.
Hey, Paige....You'd make a good dr!! Could be!!
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DR: Symptoms of influenza include high fever, SEVERE headache, SEVERE body aches, dry cough. It hits you like a ton of bricks. I couldn't even get out of bed at times.
If you think this is influenza, start taking one tablespoon Sambucol every four hours. Take something for the body pain, 1000 mg Tylenol every four to six hours. (Or you might have narcotics on hand.)
My headache was so severe that I used an ice pack for temporary relief. My coughing became so severe and uncontrollable that I injured my vocal cords.
If you have a fever, this knocks out the enzymes in your digestive system, so eat very lightly. Fruit juice, saltines. Chicken soup would be good too.
Influenza will last about a week. The severe fatigue will continue for several weeks more. The coughing may continue too.
I hope it's just a herx. Carol
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trails
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I agree with paige
It really could be the teeth. infection or abcess or worse.
Hope not, but you should rule it out.
Glad you could take a break from the liquid gold puke maker! Trails Posts: 1950 | From New Mexico | Registered: Sep 2001
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We had the flu here last 2wks. It is going around. Guess I didn't appreciate the summer reprieve. Hope you get feeling better.
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Thank you all for your most kind responses -- altho TuTu is making me feel bad because my diet is not as restrictive as it has been in the past...but I'm sure once I eat some kind of forbidden carb item or something with lots of SUGAR to feed my yeast...I'll feel better....at least I'll feel better emotionally! (HUGS, Tutu, hugs hugs hugs!)
The GOOD NEWS is: I am NOT coughing nor am I producing a small mucous volcano - which suggests I do NOT have the flu! THANK GOD! THANK GOD! THANK GOD!
What it DOES suggest to me is that my antibiotic vacation probably needs to come to a screeching halt and that I need to start blasting away at those little microscopic b*stards again. I am not ruling out the possibility that my symptoms are tooth related - but I also do NOT have any tooth pain now - thanks to the Oil of Oregano. OR if I do have tooth pain I can not notice it because the rest of me is experiencing overwhelming NEUROPATHY pain thanks to the recent COLD snap and my apparent intolerance to cold. Hmmmm....
What another friend reminded me is that sometimes after being off the abx - if you take too much of a vacation -- those little buggers will come back with a vengence.
AND I feel like I am the current recipient of microscopic vengence as I am still receiving misery of GIGANTIC proportions ...but I'm a big girl and I can handle it....along with my thousands of supplements and yes, my narcotics, too!
Look for my future post entitled: SCREAMIN' NEUROPATHY!
I look forward to your advice.
With gratitude & affection,
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Worthless tests & labs, a dangerous vaccine, insurance companies refuse to pay, undertreatment the norm, all about money. MO. Posts: 281 | From CT | Registered: Oct 2005
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Its not flu season yet so I doubt its the flu. I agree with the others, I am sure it is related to your tooth. A couple years ago I was SO ill with infected wisdom teeth I actually looked forward to getting them out. Felt much better afterwards. Feel Better
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