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I've had lyme for over 5 years. Been in treatment for 1 year. I've recently started getting these rashes (about 2 inches in length) that are a series of small dots. I usually only have one or two rashes at at time. They itch like crazy. My latest rash has lasted a week with no sign of abating.
I'm trying to figure out if this is Lyme related or from something else. Has anyone experienced this?
Thanks, Ms. Myo
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Thanks for your reply. I have been using caprylic acid and probiotics for yeast. I think I will add in more probiotics and watch my diet more closely to see if that helps.
If it is yeast related, is there anything topical I should put on the rashes?
Ms. Myo
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Finally, finally someone is reporting this, too!
I have this since some years. It's not there all the time and mine does itch only mildy. On one cheek I had three hardly visible red lines (streaks) which made me think of Bartonella. But then, sometimes and for a couple of days only, I would get red dots along this streak in a straight line.
Some years ago, the last dot of one of the lines left a brown spot (like old age spots). Then, two years later, the last dot of another line left the same identical brown spot. But not every line of dots leaves a brown spot.
With treatment the red streaks turned white and then left, the brown spots stayed. But still, sometimes, I get these dotted lines, now also on my other cheek.
I have no idea what it could be but I'm pretty sure it's not yeast because I tried antifungal creams with no success. I think it's either Lyme or Bartonella.
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I have had an itchy nasty rash for 2 years along with my lyme and it is a secondary strep infection of the skin. pattiecake
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read my post on ivermectin
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Gabrielle, My daughter's rashes were exactly like your description....small dots in streaks or lines.
I recently saw beautiful bartonella rashes at the LDA conference presented by Dr. Fried.....here's the link via LDA.... LDA website .....click on photos then scroll down and click on rash pictures of Bartonella.
This was from Dr. B's presentation on the Bartonella section at the Hope to Heal lyme conference..... *Possibly the most common tick-borne disease in our area *Gradual onset *Rarely a rash- can be stretch marks, raised red dots, painful ``spider veins'' *Symptoms- ``brain fog'', irritability, low grade fevers, sore nodules deep under skin, sore soles, enlarged lymph nodes, abdominal pain, gastritis
My Myoclonus or anyone, if you email me I can send you his powerpoint presentation.
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You may be rubbing against something that before lyme didnt cause a immune responce but now dose.
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I have those same rashes as well. I have for lots of years and only recently realized that Bart was a possibility.
Small red dots in lines, one end of the line has a bigger red spot. Sometimes they heal and sometimes they stay for months. Some of them turn to brown spots and I'm not that old.
I also have things that look almost like a bite or pimple that just turn to raised red things and take 6 months or so to heal. They reappear during herxes for me.
About 2 months ago I developed a red rash on my side that was much larger and made up of tiny raised red dots. I thought the itching would drive me insane. Antihistamines didn't work and it seems starting to treat Bart did. I'm on a short break from treatment right now and it's trying to come back.
Ha, not gonna let it! I'm starting the meds again on thursday.
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I have developed a large red raised itchy rash over my Bicillin LA injection site- think that this rash is allergic reaction as I was also getting very sore back/joint bones in that area- and developed a full week after last shot...
someone suggested serum sickness...
BUT- elsewhere on my body I am getting an itchy red rash in straight line of dots!!
Could one be an allergic reaction and the staight lines be a Bartonella rash?
I have never had this before and am VERY curious as to what others have experienced!
I am 5 days into the rash and it is not abating- VERY itchy. I am taking allegra and seems to make it tolerable for a time...
Thanks so much for your input!
Hope- Sarah
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I recently saw an episode of Date Line about bed bugs and the bites/ rash occur in a line of dots. Apparently they are making a comeback.
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maybe it's not such a long shot. While I have the rash with the dots on my left cheek, I have an itchy red rash on my right one.
It was first diagnosed as erythema migrans but it didn't go away with treatment. I had a biopsie to see if it was from borrelia and the only thing they found was a hell of a lot of Demodex folliculorum, which are follicle mites. Everybody has them in lower numbers but in immunosuppressed people they can spread uncontrolled and cause inflammations.
And now, also my left cheek starts to itch. So it might be possible that the red dots in a line could also be caused by these darn mites (just don't know how they could make the brown spots).
I treat it now with metronidazole cream but I don't really expect it to help. A professor at the dermatological university clinic told me that I would never get completely rid of them anymore. Great!
Maybe I try Ivermectin. Anybody ever had problems with follicle mites? If yes, what did you do?
Gabrielle
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Well, scabies are mites, and the largest form of mites are called...ticks.
I got scabies from sleeping in infected sheets. My hands had small little lines of dots, esp. between fingers. It then spread all over my body except above the neck and my groin area.
It took two treatments to kill them, at which point I looked like I had the measles, and itched so badly I bled. Though, I did have it for many weeks before I knew what was wrong.
Maybe, Gabrielle, you could try to see if they are scabies.
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The interesting thing is that the huge welt/hives at the Bicillin injection site and the straight line rash elsewhere on the body came at the same time...
Perhaps my body is spending all it's energy on getting rid of this Bicillin and it has opened a doorway to an opportunistic mite!?
Hope it goes away soon!
Hope- Sarah
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So, sarah, I am begining to wonder something...
(I am always coming up with theories, most of them wrong, but whatever...)
Perhaps you could have some mites and the bicillin is killing them. When I had scabies I had a noticeable rash, but when I killed them I found out I was almost completely covered with them, it was totally disgusting. Point is, they were perhaps only 30% visible to me pre-death.
Perhaps some Lymies have mites, perhaps small mites can also carry the burg. bug. Perhaps one needs to take the right antibiotic to kill a small parasite that carries the bad bacteria, along with killing the bacteria.
Ok, I am sure there is a lot wrong with my musings, but I am very interested in these mites. See, I don't know how I got Lyme.
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Hello, Just an update since I started this post. I tested negative for bartonella through Igenex. Of course, who knows how reliable that test is either.
My LLNP thinks my rashes are dyshydrotic eczema, which is common to Lyme patients.
Take care, Karol
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Well, Lyme specialist doesn't think I have bartonella symptoms, but she did treat me for babesia even though I tested negative because she though the symptoms matched.
I'm 90% recovered so lets hope she's right.
Whatever my rashes are, they are super itchy. I scratch more than my dogs.
Ms. Myo
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I had this type of rash once, also. I think it was before I started abx. It wasn't as wide or long as some of those Bart rashes pictured. Mine was a much thinner line, but a straight line of little, very itchy bumps.
I thought it was strange, how straight the line was. I never had a Dr. see it. I'm just glad I don't have it anymore, but interesting to hear other Lymies have had it.
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I don't think mine are scabies because the biopsy was done in a dermatological lab and I hope that they can tell the difference between Demodex and scabies.
Also, my rash took very long (years) to develop - I would think scabies are more aggressive. But I also think that I'm seeing only the tip of the iceberg because sometimes it itches also in other places. So putting my metronidazole cream just in my face will not help anyway.
Also I have the same idea as you: what if these mites carry borrelia? They have been found in 13 different kind of mites. What if I can never get rid of my Lyme because I get reinfected all the time by the mites?
What did you take for your scabies? Unfortunately, I heard that follicle mites are even harder to kill than scabies.
Gabrielle
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I can't remember what I took, it was about 14 years ago, at college, I know it was a cream from the neck down.
I looked up follicle mites yesterday, and you said that everyone has them, but I couldn't find that. Where is the info on the 12 mites that have borellia?
Yeah, if you were at a lab, they better know what kind of mite it was.
I think I need to take Biology.
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"Borrelia burgdorferi was found so far in 30 species of Arthropoda, 13 species of mites (Acarina), 15 species of flies(Diptera), two species of fleas (Siphonaptera). The role of insects as vectors was not proved so far."
Maybe not really everybody has the follicle mites but the older people get the more they have it. This professor at the university clinic told me and here is a link that supports it:
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