Topic: New and intriguing probiotic from my LLMD..
Michelle M
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My LLMD does NOT push stuff at me. Ever. Well, except antibiotics. :-)
He does not sell any stuff on the side, and in fact I am NOT to take supplements or even multi-vitamins while in treatment. I do take a probiotic and eat tons of yogurt. Despite my best effort, I get "behind the curve" with yeast.
It's hard for me to take Diflucan. For whatever reason, my liver numbers go to the moon.
When I went in recently, we were talking about the Lyme conference. He knows about my constant battles with the Yeast Beast. He said a lot of his LLMD doc friends at the conference are very sold on a new probiotic which is apparently working REALLY WELL with their patients who are yeast magnets.
He sold me two bottles of it, but told me I could order it online (and gave me a couple coupons) a couple dollars cheaper.
It's called "Theralac."
After using it for a week or so I can definitely say it's helping more than any other probiotic I've taken, even the super expensive ones from the health food store.
I thought I'd share, since my LLMD NEVER recommends anything and isn't one to push anything, and this was apparently discussed with good results among a number of LLMD's at the conference recently!!
Link to their page! (No, I do not know them, not affiliated, standard disclaimers!)
They say 30 caps lasts 10 weeks, which is 70 days. This is about l cap every 2 days! Is this what you are doing, or is the standard dose not what is recommended for people on abx?
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20 Billion CFU and is formulated so it doesn't breakdown in the stomach acid and makes it to the intestinal tract.
That would be the equivalent of 3 1/4 of many of the other (6B CFU each) and I am making the assumption they start breaking down before the intestinal tract. Sometimes I wonder if the solid ones break down at all.
Looks like this may be a good thing.
Are you doing the "intensive" 1 a day treatment?
Thanks elle
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Hey, always up for a new probiotic! The link you gave - do you know if that's the cheapest?
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Michelle M
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LLMD told me to take one a day for the first couple weeks, because I have problems... brownish tongue despite scraping, using nystatin, etc... vague itch requiring monostat, you guys know the drill. :-(
He said I can taper down to a less-often schedule, depending on how I think I'm doing. Frankly, I've already forgotten to take my pill a couple days here and there and it doesn't seem to have thrown me backward any.
I think I paid like about $40 a bottle. However, he gave me two coupons (if I haven't lost those already) for $5 off.
He personally expressed he thought that was outrageously expensive -- I remarked, "Well, you obviously haven't bought any of the health food store's stuff lately!!!"
He said "You might be able to buy it online cheaper." (Though I'm sure he hasn't looked.)
This morning while looking for a link to share is the first and only time I've looked for it online, so I don't know about its availability elsewhere, though there seemed to be few links about it as I think it's relatively new.
It truly seems to have already helped my constant diarrhea and my brown tongue seems to be improving for the first time in a LONG time. (Only Diflucan seems to help this, which I can't handle.)
I'm going to foist some upon my mom, who's recovering from colon cancer.
My doc was most impressed with the fact that these pills don't break down UNTIL they get to the gut.
Anything discussed favorably at the Lyme conference among LLMD's is worth passing on. Also, my LLMD is known to be "conservative" so anything that gets a thumbs-up from him is a "MUST POST" !!!
Michelle
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5dana8
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Thanks so much for the post.I just ordered a bottle of 30 and was 46$,
I sure hope this works
I do like the 20 billion count though. Thanks for sharing this information
Take care
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My sons llmd has him take the theralac once a day at sleep. He has him take metagenics ultra-flora after abx during the day. I paid $34.95 at his office for the theralac. The instructions on the bottle say one capsule daily for 2 weeks than 2 times a week. I am sure this is for those NOT on ABX.
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lymeinhell
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Hey, I just started Theralac too!! My LLMD went to the same conference.
I've been off abx a year now, and still can't get off acidophillus. I take a top quality professional grade, watch my diet, go through a bottle in 6 days, and would really love to give up the $100 a month for acidophillus.
I was told "30 days, 1 pill a day" and you're done. And that it might take some getting used to.
So far.... my stomach seems VERY bloated, am a bit gassy, but no runs. Food stays in me... So maybe there's hope.
I too got the coupon, but ordered online (since they didn't answer the phone), so here I sit with the coupon. I paid $39 something plus tax.
Will let you know what happens.
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Theralac is what my doctor told me to take right off the bat! I haven't ordered it yet but probably will. Please keep us posted on how it works. I probably won't order it for a little while longer since I have only been on abx for about 25 days now. I am using two other forms of over the counter probiotics in the meantime.
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Thanks for the info, it sounds promising. I just ordered a bottle too. We'll all have to compare notes in a few weeks. hatsnscarfs
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I just ordered some too. Have 1 probiotic pill left and was headed to the health food store tomorrow anyhow.
Wish I could attend those conferences!
Yes, let's compare notes on this.
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Michelle M
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I'm SOO glad to hear others' LLMDs are talking about this too.
Those Lyme conferences are da bomb! Good stuff trickles down to us when our docs get together.
I am usually conservative and slow to believe in anything as being some great new thing.
But after just a couple weeks on this stuff, I am feeling pretty jazzed.
I'm already NOT falling asleep standing up, and feeling a lot more energy (okay, the skeptic in me sez: duh, you just got off the Flagyl so that could be why). However...
The Queen of Must-be-Near-Bathroom for half-dozen-trips-per-day has slowly become, er, how shall we delicately put it, more, er, predictable ... yeah, that's the word I'm looking for!!!
And the Monistat cream??? Well, it's gatherin dust in the bathroom cabinet.
And the dreaded brown-tongue spot thing: Well, despite ruthless, repeated applications of morning coffee, it's shrinking, shrinking, shrinking, nearly gone! (Yeah, I tongue scraped, swish/swallowed, uncapped probiotics on tongue following, the whole nine yards, nothing would touch it except long-course Diflucan).
It sure makes me think that despite thinking I was relatively normal (hah!), perhaps I was carrying around a truckload of yeast, all the while blissfully oblivious.
Will be greatly interested in everyone's experiences and hope it is as helpful to all of you!
Michelle
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On my Christmas list.
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Thought I would check in and see how everyone is doing on the Theralac. My daughter is getting ready for a mediport and after reading about the candida - pulmonary embolism-picc line connection on another thread, I got concerned. I'm thinking of switching her from Lacto-S-Plus to theralac. So, what do you think? Is it really better?
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SForsgren
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OK, I bit this time. Have tried tons of probiotics and like a few that I use now, but ordered two bottles to see how this one works. Sounds promising.
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Michelle M
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Well, I've been on it a month.
It's all I take. One at night, when I go to bed.
All signs of yeast - gone.
And:
If I told you -- I mean REALLY TOLD YOU --
how NOT RIGHTEOUS I am about carbs...
I would be forcibly ejected from this list as a bad example!!!!
Michelle
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I've been using theralac for almost 3 weeks now. I capsule each night before bed. It works great. Yeast is under control and I've been able to eat a little bit if carbs without any problem. I could not do this for the previous 6 months!
I'm wondering what the maintenance dose is. I'm assuming I'll need to continue taking daily while on abx. hats
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I ordered 3 bottles. One of my 10 yo daughters just started zith/flagyl and I'm trying to keep the yeast at bay before it overcomes her little person. One pill a day with her would be so easy if that works.
My husband will start ceftin/flagyl next week and the same with him. The rest of my family starts abxs the following week.
I have been on abxs for 5 mths. I do a fair job of yeast control but you just would not believe the amount of stuff and hoops that I have been jumping through to control it.
I had a perscription for 2 diflucan filled last night. The generic at $11.36 a pill just is not a bargain and I certainly would not want to do that regularly for the 6 of us. Uggggghhhhhh
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SForsgren
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Get Nystatin - it works and is cheap.
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My son's llmd has him take this every night. He also has him take metagenics ultraflora twice a day. Started my daughter on this and her abdominal issues have been better.
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lymeinhell
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Update:
I've been on Theralac 27 days now. 1 pill a day. 3 pills left, and supposedly I should be done.
I got a bit bloated at first, but my GI tract seemed stable. After about 10 days, it seemed like I eliminated stuff from the very top of my intestines. And then I felt wonderful!!!! I can eat ANYTHING. We'll see what happens when I run out.
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So your doing Theralc and Diflucan at the same time???
robi
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