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This site has been revised check it out! It looks much more credible than it used too. How are all the salt and c users doing?....maybe I will try it again...any input?
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I have been on the vitamin C/Salt protocol for 4 months and I think I have seen some improvement. I have definitely herxed and it is an emotional roller coaster, so be prepared for that.
I plan to stay on it for at least a year, so I will keep you updated as time goes on.
It's definitely an inexpensive protocol and does not lead to yeast infections like antibiotics do.
Hiker
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I made it 14 weeks and had to stop because the herxes with salt/c and rife were just to much for me. I agree with Hiker, the emotional stuff is rough. For me it cleared my head a lot and brought my energy levels back.
I will go on it again if I hit a plateau with rife but right now I'm making good progress with rife and antibiotics mixed in, according to the outline in Bryan's book.
All My Best, Scott
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I have been on it for about 6 months now, and so far my NK count went from 17 to 56. As far as the Lyme, when I first started to take it, I would get about a month of bad days, with a few good days here and there.
First stretch was a month of good days. Then a little over two months of good days for the second stretch. There is usually about three weeks of what feels like 'herxing' in between. I am hoping to get a three or four month stretch of good days next high, as of now, seems like I am coming out of a herx.
So far, this seems to be about 80% as powerful as ABX, as far as how I am improving. When I first got sick, I was on ABX for three years to get 90-95%. I relapsed when I went off ABX, so I have been on Salt and C for a short while comparatively speaking.
The only reason why I say 80%, is because the ABX seemed to have done a slightly better job dealing with the eyesight. But then again, Salt and C does not kill of gram positive bacteria, which is the good bacteria in the gut. Salt and C only kills off the gram negative bacteria, aka, Lyme.
But the whole Salt and C thing is too new, so it's too early to say. But like I said before, if you are seeing a LLMD who is giving you ABX, stick with the ABX program and follow the advice of your doctor. Salt and C can cause high blood pressure in 5% of the population.
So look before you leap.
As for me, it does not affect my blood pressure, my organs and bloodwork are fine (cept for positive Lyme), so the Salt and C is not doing anything bad to me.
I will probably give this a year or two before making the final call. But so far, seems to be killing keets since I am having less reaction to hot water, and my doctor says I am looking better.
And I feel better too, but I still have a ways. But overall, I am better than I was after the great crash of last year, but I am not quite as good as I was when I was on the tail end of the ABX treatment. Other than Salt and C, ABX was the only thing that felt like it was putting the disease at bay, despite all of the other things I tried.
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The group called "Lymestrategies" on the Yahoo groups is a discussion forum with people who are using this protocol. You can probably get a lot more details and progress report-type posts there.
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I'm wondering if the salt in this protocol is pure sodium chloride or if it is a natural unrefined salt with many minerals...such as Himalayan salt. From what I understand pure refined sodium chloride is the more dangerous salt for your health. It could be compared to refined sugar.....without the fiber, minerals and other constituents which work in synergy with your body and each other
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The original LymePhotos group who used this treatment used the cheapest, easiest way to stick to it - the cheapest source of C they could find, and pure sodium chloride tablets.
That is what is recommended on the lymestrategies forum.
However, many users are using the healthy forms of salt, either in a brine or stuffed in gel caps.
Our daughter and her family love Real Salt, but are too sick to make the effort to use it for their salt/C doses. They use the sodium tablets.
The bottom line is to get in that 1 gram dose of sodium, however many times a day that they determine for their bodies, according to their needs and their tolerance of their herxes.
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Hope all of you that do Salt & C are also preparing to have chlorella or similar agents on board. Salt & C kills parasites, fungi, whatever you wish to call it. All of these critters are also holding immense amounts of heavy metals in their cell walls. If they get killed off, the heavy metals are starting to circulate in your body, redistributing themselves, because that's just what they do -- unless you are loaded with chlorella or other agents that are able to carry the metals out via stool.
So many of the horribles that you feel while you are on Salt and C - if without protection - is just that -- die-off, dead proteins with heavy metals circulating and causing all sorts of unpleasantries.
If you think you do not have any of these other neurotoxins in your system - think again. If you have not just come to Earth from a distant planet, you will have other toxins in your system. And to avoid getting on this merry-go-round, you have to have these protective agents in your body. Salt and C alone is not good enough, though a great and valuable modality. It works if done right.
I encourage you to read the "Neurotoxin Elimination Protocol" my doctor posted on his website, www.neuraltherapy.com. It explains in detail what neurotoxins most of us are confronted with.
Take care.
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Just beware, the manufacturer, Consolidated Midland Corporation who makes the salt tablets that are recommended on the site someone gave above (www.lymephotos.com)was sited for violations: "Licensee admitted to charges of a lack of sanitary conditions in licensee's warehouse and failure to conform to good manufacturing practices as prescribed by federal regulations.
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Hopefully CMC has cleaned up their act, since the article you cited is form 1994.
I have been on the salt/C protocol now for 5 months. A lot of herxing and I think Gigi is right that you need to detox a lot while on it.
Antibiotics did not help me, so I am choosing this route and will go back to rifing in February when I am not working. Doing both brings on a brutal herx. Hiker
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I read what Hiker said but I would like to try the salt/c protcol anlong with my abx.
Is it hard on the kidneys?
When I eat too much salt on my food my eyes puff up,even though I don't have high blood pressure. Just wondering if any one knows about these issues? Thanks
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The salt used in the vitamin C/salt protocol is not the table salt you use on food. Table salt has additives such as aluminum. I use pure sodium chloride tablets. Others use sea salt or Himilayan salt etc. The protocol suggests you cut down on the impure table salt and salty foods while on the pure salt/C protocol.
My blood pressure has remained normal (110/70). Some people experience some kidney discomfort, but I have not. I think everyone reacts differently to the protocol, just as we can react differently to the same antibiotic.
Biting Back said she used the protocol while on antibiotics and found it helpful.
I am not going to say it is a cure-all, because I have only been on it 5 months. I plan to stay on it at least a year to see the effects. Hiker
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Thanks Hiker; I guess time will tell
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does anyone know the webb site for lyme strategies.I could not find it? Thanks
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