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It has been nearly three straight years of antibiotic treatment for various tick borne disease but I am still fighting releapes. While I still have a "few" antibiotics I can use, I have this fear that even if I get through them, the darn little bugs won't be killed entirely. I am faced with a decision, do I use silver to kill the rest of them. Since I started treatment 3 years ago, I have made wonderful progess. I will make a decision to use silver within the next week. Before I do, I would like feedback on the pros and cons of using it. If there is anybody out there who has used it please let me know your thoughts on it.
thanks much for your help...
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riversinger
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Please be aware that those who are deficient in selenium or vitamin E can have damage to the liver by taking silver internally.
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I thought that wasn't the case with the new type silver that was being used? Isn't that true of the colloidal silver of old? Or?? I'm not sure......
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bump.....
Also, Dr. C said he had heard great results from the new silver......for many patients.
Another thing to think about, long term antibiotics are not good for the liver either.
What a mess.....
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from Tom Grier. I tested over a dozen colloidal silver preparations on over a dozen pathogens and found virtually zero effectiveness in killing any bacteria including anaerobes, gram-pos organisms, gram-neg organisms, Candida yeast, and GI tract e-coli bacteria. Colloidal silver at full strength had negligible effects on every bacteria and yeast tested. ---------------------------------------------- from http://www.physorg.com/news7264.html
In the first-ever study of metal nanoparticles' interaction with HIV-1, silver nanoparticles of sizes 1-10nm attached to HIV-1 and prevented the virus from bonding to host cells. The study, published in the Journal of Nanotechnology, was a joint project between the University of Texas, Austin and Mexico Univeristy, Nuevo Leon.
"Our article opens an important avenue for research," said Miguel Jose Yacaman, from University of Texas, Department of Engineering and one of the study's authors.
In this study, scientists mixed silver nanoparticles with three different capping agents: foamy carbon, poly (PVP), and bovine serum albumin (BSA)."Not using a capping agent could result in the synthesis of big crystals instead of nanocrystals," explained Yacaman.
Transmission electron microscopy (TEM) showed the silver nanoparticles in the foamy carbon matrix were joined together, but an ultrasonic bath in deionized water released a significant number of nanoparticles. These nanoparticles were of size 16.19 (+-8.69)nm and had the greatest variety of shapes, such as icosahedral, decahedral, and elongated.
"Because of the synthesis procedure, the foamy carbon-coated naoparticles are more likely to have broad shape distribution," said Yacaman. Scientists used the electron beam to release the remainder of the nanoparticles from the joined bundle.
For the PVP-coated silver nanoparticles, scientists used glycerine as a dissolving agent. These particles were of size 6.53 (+-2.41). In the third preparation, scientists used serum albumin, the most common protein in blood plasma. The sulfur, oxygen, and nitrogen chemicals in BSA stabilized the nanoparticles, which were in the range of 3.12 (+-2.00) nm.
Scientists studied the absorption spectra of the different preparations to pinpoint their shapes. "Spherical nanoparticles absorbed in the blue region of the spectrum, for example," Yacaman said.
Also, the UV-Visible spectra graphs helped the group determine nanoparticle sizes. "The surface plasmon resonance peak wavelength increased with size," explained Yacaman.
Scientists tested, in vitro, each of three silver nanoparticle-preparations in HIV-1 cells. Yacaman and his colleagues incubated the samples at 37 C. After three hours and 24 hours, respectively, 0% of the cells were living.
The results showed that a silver nanoparticle concentration greater than 25 ug/mL worked more effectively at inhibiting HIV-1 cells. Plus, the foamy carbon was a slightly-better capping agent because of its free surface area. Size also played a role since none of the attached nanoparticles were greater than 10nm.
Scientists think the nanoparticles bonded through the gp120 glycoprotein knobs on HIV-1, using the sulfur residues on the knobs. The spacing between the knobs of ~22nm matched the center-to-center nanoparticle spacing.
Although this study shows silver nanoparticles may treat HIV-1, scientists need to research this relationship further. "We lack information regarding the long-term effects of metal nanoparticles," cautioned Yacaman. Scientists are forming a preventive cream for HIV-1, which they will test on humans.
Scientists are also studying other uses for silver nanoparticles. "We're testing against other viruses and the 'super bug (Methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus).' Our preliminary results indicate that silver nanoparticles can effectively attack other micro-organisms," Yacaman said.
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I have used Invive Silver for 15 months without problems. My liver studies are always normal.
From what I recall, Tom Grier never studied a silver with 5,000 ppm or one bound to a protein molecule. Here is a "tidbit" of info from the web site of this product which comes out of Canada: *************************************************************
DO NOT BELIEVE THE LINES OF EVERY COLLOIDAL SILVER PROMOTER. Silver is an allopathic and not a homeopathic remedy and therefore you need at least 2,000 p.p.m. (parts per million) ((not 10, 20, or 100 p.p.m.))) to address serious pathogens. Promoters that say they have the smallest particle size do not know what they are talking about. A bacteria is .5 microns and you need a silver particle at least the size of .005 (100 times smaller ((but no smaller))) to successfully suffocate the enzymes of a Bacteria (aerobic) or interfere with the enzymes of a Virus(anaerobic). Smaller particles do not effectively cover the enzymes.
Ionically produced silver is toxic and contains silver oxides and a chemical soup because there is no way to standardize the outcome generated via electrolysis due to impurities in the actual rods (anode and cathode) and in the solution itself re clumping and aggregation of particles. clumping and aggregation of particles.
All silver that is produce via electrolysis (via electricity ((anode + cathode))) and is commonly called colloidal silver will suppress the CD4 & CD8 function of your immune system. That is another reason why one should "not" use ionic silver (misnamed as colloidal silver by the uninformed and the marketeers). It is "TOXIC" to your immune system.
Not only is "ionic silver" (which is misnamed by Promoters as Colloidal Silver) Toxic: IT IS ALSO WORTHLESS WHEN SWALLOWED as: The stomach contains strong Hydrochloric Acid. As soon as the silver ions enter the stomach: Immediately Silver Chloride forms. The resulting Silver Chloride has "no" pathogen killing power.
The exact same thing happens in the bloodstream because of the high Chloride content, due to the presence of Potassium Chloride and Sodium. What occurs is that the Silver ions quickly combine with the Chloride ions in the bloodstream to form Silver Chloride which is of no value. That is why informed Researchers have extrapolated that a silver ion has only a half-life of 8 (eight) seconds before it becomes useless. This is "why" one receives variable results or no result from "ionic" silver.
The only type of Silver product which "will remain" to kill pathogens throughout the bloodstream, capillaries, tissue, and the spinal fluid (after crossing the blood/brain barrier) is: A solution of actual silver particles. This is because silver particles are comprised of clusters of silver "atoms" (not ions). Again: Silver particles are of perfect metallic silver consisting only of clusters of silver "atoms".
The inferior silver ions that "ionic" silver is made from is composed of silver atoms that have an electron missing in the outer shell in order to become silver ions=ionic silver, and that is another reason/proof that 'ionic" silver is toxic. The above scientific principles and methodologies are irrefutable. They prove and provide the methodology whereby one can know and understand that mammals (including humans) can only utilize silver "atoms" to eliminate internal pathogens.
You only want to purchase Mild Silver Protein in strengths from 2,000 p.p.m. to 20,000 p.p.m. which is the only product that gave the documented Medical Journal Results for 650 pathogens.
If it is not Mild Silver Protein you will not be able to address the current mutated pathogens. **********************************************************
I'm not a scientist. I can ONLY tell you this silver has worked for me. I have had some BIG herxes. It keeps yeast under control better than anything I've tried. It kills 650 forms of bacteria, viruses, etc. It does NOT promote candida like other antibiotics.
Am I totally well? No. I had a major surgery last summer which set me back. Another negative is that I have not always been able to afford this product. I have insurance and have utilized other meds.
-------------------- Every experience God gives us, every person He puts in our lives, is the perfect preparation for a future only He can see....Corrie Ten Boom Posts: 343 | From Northcentral Iowa | Registered: May 2005
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Yes, it't not the colloidal silver of old that I'm referring too....... Dr. C doesn't recommend it either, said it had been very disappointing.
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Boomerang, it is the new silver that will impact the liver in those who have certain deficiencies. I'm sure the old one probably does, too, as it has to do with an ability to process it through the liver.
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