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Just started Biaxin XL/Omnicef 4 days ago. Tonight I'm experiencing chest pain. Never had this before. I've searched archives and found 1 other post relating Biaxin to chest pains.
I've never been extrememly symptomatic. I've functioned well enought to take care of four kids. I have been on various antibiotics for 10 months and have not herxed.
Sorry to offend, but I worry that the term "herx" might be used too often. It seems people assume any new symptom or increase in symptom must be a herx, when it could also be a reaction to meds or another problem not related to Lyme. But....that's another topic.
All to say, I'm looking for replies that have to do with meds I'm on, but not necessarily people telling me I'm herxing!!
Thanks for any help. I did email my LLMD tonight and will await his response.
Lisa
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I don't quite believe in "herxing" at every new change. However, chest pain has been an almost constant symptom after numerous, repeated investigations that rule out independent cardiac issues. Several cardiologists reassured me that the pain is "not the heart"...
Hope you are feeling better.
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I never took biaxin but I do remember reading something somewhere that it has some very undesireable side effects.
Ketek gave me heart pains and I attributed it to the abx attacking the chetes around my heart that was causing my vitral valve regurg...since the ketek my fluctuations their have gone down to a minimum.
This could be what you're experiencing or it could also be a reaction to the meds. Try switching to something else.
I had heart attack symptoms while not taking any meds as well. Diagnosed as stress cuz they could'nt find anything wrong with my heart.
I know now it was the bug messing with my CNS.
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Thanks for the feedback. It's really not fun to be in a position with symptoms that cannot be specifically attributed, definitively, to something! Our best hope is, "well the cardiologist said it is not my heart!"
My chest pain is better this morning. Weird.
I'll see what my llmd says later today.
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Lisa,
We are posting about same issue at same time! My daughter is have same reaction! Glad to read answers to your thread.
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I started IV Rocep. two days ago and almost immediately started to have a dull pain across my upper chest.
Not quite sure why and I am not sure that it is anything to worry about either because the discomfort is not that severe (mainly when I take a deep breath).
With this added pain I also have had 'traveling' dull pains all over my body.
I am not trying to make too much of all of this but I thought I would share my experience to date.
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Don't know if this is of any help, but I read in some prescribing information for zithro, biaxin, etc., that it is contraindicated for people with certain heart conditions like prolonged QT interval.
I can't take zithro because I start having arrythmias all over the place, panic-type symptoms, etc. So I'm afraid to go near any macrolides. (I can't remember -- they're classified as macrolides?)
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Lyme doc emailed back and said it does seem like a herx to him. He explained that it is chest wall pain due to muscle inflammation because the antibiotic was working. He wants me to continue taking it and take Mobic if needed.
I now recall that several years ago my daughter, the first in our family to test positive, had severe chest pain immediatley after her first dose of Biaxin.
Wonder if it is the Biaxin that is very effective at killing bugs in that area, or does Biaxin just cause chest pain in some individuals.
Char, was your daughter's chest pain after taking Biaxin?
Thanks,
Lisa
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Lyme can cause chest wall pain, independent of abx.
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The pharmacist is a good source concerning drug interactions and many times easier to reach than the doctor.
My doctor is treating me homeopathically which has absolutely no side effects. Herxing was extremely bad in the first two months but has settled down now (starting my 5th mth) to a level that most days I do not even need Advil. It was reassuring to know during the worst days that it was definitely bacteria die off and not drug interaction. Some peoples' symptoms on this website read like a Stephen King novel.
I have no personal experience with Biaxin, but feel if your doctor is not worried, then you should trust him.
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It is very difficult IMO to trust the doctors anymore...even llmd's....without questioning them somewhat... We've all been messed over by so many... I also ask my pharmacist a lot of questions.
Got lyme...you may want to keep an eye on the picc line if that is the side you are experiencing discomfort in chest area... Also...each time I was on rocephin I developed a lung issue...the ducks could'nt determine if it was bronchitis or pneumonia...it was probably lyme related...but of course the ducks would'nt even talk about that... I followed up with levaquin first time and clyndamicin the second time.....
Good luck out there......zman
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Biaxin XL Active Ingredients: Clarithromycin Representative Names: Biaxin, Biaxin XL Available Product Images:
What are clarithromycin tablets and extended-release tablets? What should my health care professional know before I take clarithromycin? How should I take this medicine? What if I miss a dose? What drug(s) may interact with clarithromycin? What side effects may I notice from taking clarithromycin? What should I watch for while taking clarithromycin? Where can I keep my medicine?
What are clarithromycin tablets and extended-release tablets? (Back to top) CLARITHROMYCIN (Biaxin� or Biaxin� XL) is an antibiotic. Clarithromycin kills certain bacteria or stops their growth. It treats ear, lung, sinus, throat and skin infections. This medicine is also is used to treat a certain bacteria that can cause stomach ulcers. Clarithromycin will not work for colds, flu, or other virus infections. Biaxin� XL is an extended-release form of clarithromycin that only needs to be taken once daily. Generic clarithromycin tablets and extended-release tablets are available.
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How should I take this medicine? (Back to top) Take clarithromycin tablets by mouth. Follow the directions on the prescription label. Take the tablets with a full glass of water. You may take clarithromycin regular-release tablets with or without food, but be sure to take the extended-release tablets (Biaxin� XL) with food. Taking clarithromycin with food may reduce stomach upset. Do not crush or chew the Biaxin� XL tablets. Take your doses at regular intervals. Do not take your medicine more often than directed. Finish the full course prescribed by your prescriber or health care professional even if you think your condition is better. Do not stop taking except on your prescriber's advice.
Contact your pediatrician or health care professional regarding the use of this medicine in children. Special care may be needed.
What if I miss a dose? (Back to top) If you miss a dose, take it as soon as you can. If it is almost time for your next dose, take only that dose. Do not take double or extra doses. There should be an interval of at least 6 hours between Biaxin� doses, and at least 12 hours between Biaxin� XL doses.
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Tell your prescriber or health care professional about all other medicines that you are taking, including non-prescription medicines, nutritional supplements, or herbal products. Also tell your prescriber or health care professional if you are a frequent user of drinks with caffeine or alcohol, if you smoke, or if you use illegal drugs. These may affect the way your medicine works. Check with your health care professional before stopping or starting any of your medicines.
What side effects may I notice from taking clarithromycin? (Back to top) Side effects that you should report to your prescriber or health care professional as soon as possible: *difficulty breathing *redness, blistering, peeling or loosening of the skin, including inside the mouth *severe or watery diarrhea *skin rash, itching *swelling of tongue or throat *vomiting *yellow color of eyes, skin, or urine
Side effects that usually do not require medical attention (report to your prescriber or health care professional if they continue or are bothersome): *changes in taste or smell *headache *nausea *stomach pains or cramps
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Clarithromycin may decrease the effectiveness of birth control pills. Women should use additional forms of birth control during the month they received clarithromycin. Depending on the length of clarithromycin treatment, additional birth control methods may be needed for at least one menstrual cycle after the antibiotic is finished.
If you get severe or watery diarrhea, do not treat yourself. Call your prescriber or health care professional for advice.
If you are going to have surgery, tell your prescriber or health care professional that you are taking clarithromycin. :::::::::::: :::::::::: :::::::::::: :::::::::::
Omnicef Active Ingredients: Cefdinir Representative Names: Omnicef Available Product Images:
What are cefdinir capsules? What should my health care professional know before I take cefdinir? How should I take this medicine? What if I miss a dose? What drug(s) may interact with cefdinir? What side effects may I notice from taking cefdinir? What should I watch for while taking cefdinir? Where can I keep my medicine?
What are cefdinir capsules? (Back to top) CEFDINIR (Omnicef�) is a cephalosporin antibiotic. It treats many kinds of infections including those of the skin, respiratory tract, sinuses, ears, and urinary tract. Generic cefdinir capsules are not available.
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How should I take this medicine? (Back to top) Take cefdinir capsules by mouth. Follow the directions on the prescription label. Swallow the capsules with a drink of water. You can take cefdinir with or without food. If cefdinir upsets your stomach, it may help to take it with food. Take your doses at regular intervals. Do not take your medicine more often than directed. Finish the full course prescribed by your prescriber or health care professional even if you think your condition is better. Do not stop taking except on your prescriber's advice.
Contact your pediatrician or health care professional regarding the use of this medicine in children. Special care may be needed.
What if I miss a dose? (Back to top) If you miss a dose, take it as soon as you can. If it is almost time for your next dose, take only that dose. Do not take double or extra doses. There should be an interval of at least 4 to 6 hours between doses.
What drug(s) may interact with cefdinir? (Back to top) *other antibiotics *probenecid
Tell your prescriber or health care professional about all other medicines you are taking, including non-prescription medicines, nutritional supplements, or herbal products. Also tell your prescriber or health care professional if you are a frequent user of drinks with caffeine or alcohol, if you smoke, or if you use illegal drugs. These may affect the way your medicine works. Check with your health care professional before stopping or starting any of your medicines.
What side effects may I notice from taking cefdinir? (Back to top) Side effects that you should report to your prescriber or health care professional as soon as possible: *difficulty breathing, wheezing *redness, blistering, peeling or loosening of the skin, including inside the mouth *seizures (convulsions) *severe or watery diarrhea *skin rash, hives, or itching *swelling of the lips, tongue or face *swollen joints *unusual weakness or tiredness *vaginal itching *vomiting
Side effects that usually do not require medical attention (report to your prescriber or health care professional if they continue or are bothersome): *constipation, diarrhea, or other stool changes *dizziness or drowsiness *gas or heartburn *insomnia *loss of appetite *nausea *stomach pain
What should I watch for while taking cefdinir? (Back to top) Tell your prescriber or health care professional if your symptoms do not begin to improve in a few days.
If you are diabetic, you may get a false-positive result for sugar in your urine. Check with your prescriber or health care professional before you change your diet or the dose of your diabetic medicine.
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CLARITHROMYCIN (in Biaxin XL) may interact with GRAPEFRUIT JUICE
Grapefruit juice may block the breakdown of clarithromycin in the intestines. This could cause an increase in blood levels of clarithromycin which could increase the risk of side effects from this antibiotic. Potential side effects of clarithromycin include headache, diarrhea, and nausea. You should avoid drinking grapefruit juice or eating grapefruit while taking clarithromycin. Discuss this potential interaction with your healthcare provider at your next appointment, or sooner if you think you are having problems.
This interaction is poorly documented and is considered major in severity.
FOOD may interact with CLARITHROMYCIN (in Biaxin XL)
Food may slightly delay the absorption of clarithromycin from the stomach into the bloodstream. However, it does not appear from currently available evidence that the effectiveness of clarithromycin is reduced if taken with food. Clarithromycin may be taken either with or without food. Discuss this potential interaction with your healthcare provider at your next appointment, or sooner if you think you are having problems.
Make sure your drinking plenty of water and also taking acidophilis at least 2 hrs after abx. Yeast may be taking of and causing bloating and pressure in your stomach witch can cause bad chest pain it happened to me .
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Hi Lisa,
Sounds like you have gotten some good advice.
Hope the herxes will settle down.( and keep working-the fine line!)
My daughter is doing IV clindamycin. I got mixed up that it was Biaxin. For some reason, I believe they are similar abx...The search and research function of my brain is not wking so well. Little sleep lately.
I got some good advice, too from folks here...Dr. is calling to check in on my daughter. She took abx break yesterday and we will discuss how long to extend. Going in on Monday, which is awesome.
Best wishes, Char
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I am bringing this up to the top b/c I am having stabbing pains in the area that I believe to be my heart. I have had these before, but these seem MORE intense.
I am worried.
I have e-mailed the LLMD.
I wont go to ER coz we know what a show that would be.
I have never had any cardiac problems associated with lyme.
I am having other stabbing shooting pains too, but it seems that when you get them close to your heart, it gets even scarier.
ANy advice? Trails
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Hi, All,
Remember me? Chest pain Poster Person! LOL.
Seriously, I'm not laughing - it was my worst and most consistent symptom and often got scary.
Did all the cardiac workups numerous times - all fine.
My LLMD explained that the Lyme spirochetes like to hang out in the nerve roots in the spine and can irritate one or more of the nerves that wrap around the rib cage.
It can get particularly bad on either side of the sternum, and be very sharp and deep there (i.e. can be on left side, where heart is) - - but that is where those nerves around the rib cage end, and the spirochetes inflame the nerve ending.
I was ready to slice it open and do a biopsy and look for any organisms there and my LLMD said, "you won't find any there. It's coming from the nerve wrapping around your rib cage."
This can also lead to rib pain, chest wall tenderness, and soft tissue pain. For me it was just that laser thin point where the nerve ended.
DO get cardiac stuff checked out! I'm not an MD and you should rule out any cardiac probs and definitely consult your MD and LLMD.
But this was my chest pain story. And the LLMD said it is a common Lyme symptom.
Over time, correct doses of abx lessened that pain. But it was one of the worst sx to live with.
Just a word of caution - don't get nerve block injections, as I did. They made the pain there worse. They did them into the sternum, into the ribs.... and made the pain more severe! The pain clinic was not Lyme literate. I'm actually not sure why it got worse w. injections.
Hope this helps. I'm not an MD, though, so check w. your Dr.
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My chest pain was due to Babs. A year of Biaxin, plaq and Tetracycline didn't help at all.
Switching LLMDs and treating with Mepron, Septra DS and a macrolide made a huge difference within days.
Do a search here. Lots of tid bits on chest pain. My sympathies as it's a scary sx and no fun.
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Henson2--thanks so much for explaining all that.
I sorta thought that was what was going on with me...as I have so very many other nerve root pain conditions.
I have had extensive heart workups in the past and last ekg was normal in August.
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I don't think we can over-emphasize the fact that not all symptoms that occur during treatment are herxes, that people can have more than one disease simultaneously, and that hearts are, well, kinda central to life! Anyone with worrisome chest pain should consult a cardiologist. Unstable angina can occur anytime and may be caused by plaque in the arteries. It may happen at night when you are lying quietly in bed! If you have chest pain, see a doctor first and ask questions later.
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Mt LLMD said it was a herx. It turned out to last only that night. I was fine the next day and since.
Lisa
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Just got back from the least insane urgent care experience since geting lyme! LLMD wanted me to go and get it EKG'd just in case.
EKG normal...the doc there thinks acid reflux.
I disagree.
Too tired to think about it.
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Folks, don't forget about co-infections. Talk to your LLMD if you're concerned. Most LLMDs agree: Testing for co-infections is also unreliable.
Many of us never tested + for Babs or Bart on even the most sensitive tests available...
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I experienced chest pain on Biaxin and stopped my course early as it was so unnerving-
A couple of months later, I was tested for allergic reaction to the class of antibiotics that Biaxin falls into and sure enough I was mildly allergic...
I have read that Biaxin can have an affect on the heart's QT ratio. Google search Biaxin and QT ratio perhaps? or Biaxin and heart rythmm (sp?)
When I went off the Biaxin, my heart felt normal again within 24-48 hours and I have never had a repeat of those feelings- so I associate it with the Biaxin and not a herx or Lyme....
I don't mean to scare you- each of us had such different experiences- perhaps get some allergy testing?
Best of luck with it-
Sarah
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