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If you had your root canals removed wouldn't that mean the dentist had to pull your tooth or teeth.
If so, did or what did you replace them with????
This is a real concern for many of us with several root canals, plus caps to protect the tooth.
Will you kindy respond, this is a very interesting topic but I need to have more information from someone who has done this and would like to know how they handled replacing te tooth and/or teeth.
This is especially important to one's self esteem, a nice smile..........we sure don't need anything else to pull us farther down. But, if it is a major problem and we can't get well without resolving this, then I guess we will just have to bit the bullet, huh..........Thanks, Gaye
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Dalphia, I bit the bullet. I had 12 root canals - dentist seemed to take delight in putting them in. They got rich and I got poorer in more ways than one. One lost root canal, the whole bridge was gone.
Root canals are putting out a toxin called thioethers and mercaptans. It is the most toxic substance known to man and people become ill and end up in wheelchairs. I saw one women get out of her wheelchair where she had spent years - after one root canal was removed. She is fine today.
My husband got out of his wheelchair seven months after he had his dental infections removed.
I had no choice and live very happily with dentures. It was either my death or my teeth. That's what I was told during my first visit with my doctor. "If you want to live, the root canals must go".
If I had to do it over again, a dead tooth at this point is a dead tooth that I don't want to keep because it harbors infection that spreads from one tooth to the next, jawbone, etc. I would only go for a partial to avoid damaging the surrounding teeth by doing more invasive dental work.
There comes a time when one has to make a choice. I chose health, and I did get it back. I would not by hanging on to my root canals.
Read the book "Root Canal Cover-up" - the research and knowing how bad these things are is already ancient. And they are still putting them in. Changes in the filler material have not made a dent - the teeth are still toxin producers, harbor the microorgansisms that move from there into the jawbone, up and down.
The history of a lost tooth is -- as I experienced it - almost --- usually you have one amalgam filling in there, and then a bigger one, and then a bigger one, and then you got the crown, and then it hurt, and then you got the root canal, and then you died. If I new how to move one of those funny faces up here, these Instant Graemlins, I would put the "happy face" here.
Read at the altcorp link below. One of their research/scientists spoke at one of the last conferences and he confirmed that he had tested thousands of root canals, finding all of them toxic, all of them therefore failing sooner or later.
I can also tell you that not one chronically ill patient was able to get well with a root canal in his/her mouth. My son has had a partial for years replacing one molar he lost because the infection from the remains left in the wisdom teeth sites when they were pulled spread to the adjoining tooth/teeth???? These bugs get around. Check your wisdom teeth sites whether the teeth were removed years ago or are still there. Most major problems that right there in these old sites.
Read the article I posted recently by Dr. H. He was a speaker at our last Lyme conference with pictures that told the horror story without words!
Sorry - but this is the truth - . Years ago before Lyme, I also read one middle page in the Root Canal Cover-Up, closed the book and never looked at it again until it was too late.
Learn all you can - the Altcorp site is great - and then decide.
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Gigi, if there were problems at the sites of old wisdom teeth extractions, wouldn't there be problems at the sites of new extractions?
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Gigi, I'd like to know the answers to what Sandy and Lucy are asking too.
Thanks,
Corgilla
P.S. I'm gonna try a gremlin too. I haven't figured them out either...here goes...
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Yes, people, I do not have any of my own teeth any longer. They have been gone since 1998. I have a beautiful set of dentures with porcellan teeth made in Germany, after I had suffered through five sets of them made in this country that I just could not eat with.
At one of the future Klinghardt seminars I am going to put up a show box showing all the crappy stuff dentists put into my mouth!
If you are sick and have jaw and dental infections, don't even dream of a dental implant. I had that too - it worked for a while, but went with all the rest of my restored mouth. I will never forget the doctor's comments who had to remove it all. He literally saved my life -- that of course I realized later when all of a sudden I started surface from brain fogs.
Re wisdom teeth: If they site was not cleaned out well years ago when your wisdom teeth were removed, you will find a million Lyme critters and associates in there. The same disaster if it was cleaned out recently and it was not done right - it is the playground for all the microbes of all kinds.
Even existing wisdom teeth (and surrounding area) that are still in your mouth can be home to these bugs.
The only way to really find out is to send your pano x-ray to a lyme literate dentist or dental surgeon. Most dentists are not able to read the x-ray correctly. The CAVITAT machine is not totally conclusive. When I recently asked a competent surgeon about it, the answer was "if I thought they worked, I would have one". We have a CAVITAT locally in the city - none of the patients are referred there.
Take care.
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Please note: good lyme literate dentists and dental surgeons are as difficult to find as good LLMD's. There are some lyme literate dentists, all of them with lyme disease themselves, that can't get well because they have not become mercury literate or root canal literate. It's tough to admit that mercury is toxic in the mouth if you have put it there for years.
at the top of the page on this Altcorp site - are all the different sections/links to root canals. It solid research.
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I have a bridge so quite possibly this could apply to me no root canals or amalgams in my case.
Maybe dentures are the road to go!
Sunny thoughts, Wallace
JAWBONE CAVITATIONS: Infarction, Infection & Systemic Disease By Suzin Stockton MA
Reprinted by Permission to Y2K Health and Detox Center
About seven years ago I made the eye-opening discovery that my chronic health problems, which had eluded resolution for many years, had their origin in - of all places - my jawbone. I would never have deduced this had it not been for a fortuitous chance finding: the complete disappearance of bladder problems of one-year duration within days of having an abscessed tooth removed. When I reported the ``coincidence'' to my dentist, he was incredulous. He shouldn't have been, for he considered himself to be a ``holistic'' practitioner. That same dentist would later, despite his lack of understanding of focal illness, unknowingly help me to learn more about it by creating the conditions that triggered the full expression of a long silent jawbone disease - ischemic osteonecrosis. (a.k.a. cavitations and a dozen or so other names). This disease is actually quite common, though infrequently diagnosed, and is perhaps THE most common focal condition in the body. A ``focus'' is a walled-off area of concentrated toxins and necrotic (dead) and/or infected tissue.
Ischemic osteonecrosis (bone death due to poor blood supply) is a disease of the entire skeleton - i.e., it can affect any bone in the body. It is best known as a hip condition, and yet it is actually more common in the jawbone, though unacknowledged as such by mainstream medicine and dentistry.
A jawbone cavitation is simply a hollow space or pocket in the bone. It is not readily visible to the eye and often causes no local discomfort, though it can be the hidden cause of facial pain syndromes (hence one of its names, NICO - Neuralgia Inducing Cavitational Osteonecrosis). The chief initiating factor is trauma to the jaw, often brought on by standard dental treatment.
I'd first encountered the word, ``cavitation'' many years ago in the writings of Dr. Hulda Clark. She'd described it in her books as ``a bone infection resulting from an incompletely extracted tooth'' - i.e., an extraction where tissue (bone and ligament) that should be completely extracted is not thoroughly removed. That description didn't resonate in me then, despite the fact that it was exactly what had been silently going on in my jawbone for many years. I guess I thought if I had an infection in my jaw, I'd know it: Surely there would be pain, inflammation, tenderness - and my dentist would find the problem in the course of my routine check-ups. WRONG! Chronic osteomyelitis (cavitation) of the jawbone is not characterized by the usual signs of infection (inflammation, redness, fever, pus) - it most often is a silent condition. And it's one that dentists are not trained in school to recognize. In fact, they're not even taught that the condition exists. This is a somewhat perturbing state of affairs, for the jawbone cavitation is not a new disease. It was described as early as 1848 by Thomas Bond in the first oral pathology book. He wrote about a jawbone necrosis that existed independently of abscessed teeth and gums. In 1915, Dr. G.V. Black, the father of modern dentistry, described the condition as ``chronic osteitis.''
Jawbone cavitations are exquisitely described in an eye-opening book entitled Death and Dentistry written in 1940 by Martin H. Fischer, medical doctor and professor of physiology at the University of Cincinnati. Citing the research of Drs. Frank Billings and E.C. Rosenow (early 1900s), Dr. Fischer speaks of ``infarctions induced of microorganismal emboli'' that have broken into the general circulation from a peripheral focal point in the jaw or tonsils. This ``metastasis'' of microorganisms is the cause of a surprising number of conditions according to Fischer (p.8, 9):
Embolic infection that has struck the heart valves will be endocarditis; the heart muscle, myocarditis;
the pericardium, pericarditis; if all are struck, it is pancarditis. Involving the skeletal muscles, the
same pathological background will give rise to myositis; when their tendinous junctions are struck,
fibrositis; and when the synovial bursae are affected, bursitis or tenosynovitis. The process in the
joints is arthritis; and in the nerves and nerve ganglia, neuritis. In the brain, this is cerebritis, and in
its coverings, meningitis.
Fischer goes on to explain the role of metastatic infection in gastric and duodenal ulcers, cholecystitis, cystitis, pneumonia, bronchitis, rheumatism, asthma, pleuritis, nephritis, thyroid disease, herpes, iritis, poliomyelitis, multiple sclerosis, certain skin disorders, diabetes, migraines, hypertension and more. He gives case histories and much clinical and laboratory evidence, including impressive photographs of cross-sections of infected teeth and microscopy slides.
Although infection in the oral cavity may be a triggering event in the formation of a cavitation, biopsy of the site typically shows few, if any, bacteria. It is the toxins produced by these anaerobic bacteria that are most damaging to the body. However, until local defenses break down and these toxins gain systemic access, the problem remains localized and most likely silent. Symptoms develop when the body burden of toxins increases to the point that nutritional reserves are depleted, and the system is no longer able to confine the toxins to their point of origin. They then travel via blood and lymph channels and through nerve pathways to other areas of the body.
Toxins create an extremely acidic environment. As long as the body's alkaline reserves (primarily calcium and sodium) remain intact, pH is kept within acceptable limits, homeostasis remains intact, and the body functions normally. Once alkaline reserves are depleted however, balance is disrupted. It is not only acid-forming foods (like grains and meat) so prevalent in the standard American diet, that deplete the alkaline reserves, but also the bacterial toxins generated at the site of jawbone cavitations. These toxins create an acid environment and destroy critical enzyme systems in the body, including enzymes essential for energy production. The inactivated enzymes are then unable to fulfill their function as mineral chaperones. The net result is that key minerals, even though present in the system, become bio-unavailable, for the enzymes needed to activate them have been destroyed by bacterial toxins. It is important to understand that such a mineral ``deficiency'' is unrelated to mineral intake. It can exist in the face of ample intake, though insufficient intake certainly compounds the problem. The toxins responsible for mineral deactivation and breakdown of homeostasis are carried throughout the system via blood and lymph vessels, tending to settle in areas of inherent or acquired weakness. This means that my jawbone cavitations may result in an entirely different symptom picture than yours, simply because my weaknesses are different than yours.
The over-acid conditions that result once alkaline reserves are depleted have many deleterious systemic effects. When the pH of the blood becomes too acid, its viscosity increases - that is to say it becomes thicker. Consequently, it does not flow as smoothly through the vessels as it once did. Clotting anomalies result. A tendency to excessive clotting is very common in chronic cavitation patients, affecting approximately 80% of them. Hyper coagulation leads to infarctions in blood vessels. Jawbone infarctions were spoken of by Dr. Fischer more than half a century ago.
Although the word, ``infarct'' has come to be associated with heart attack, the condition is not confined to the large vessels associated with the heart. Webster defines an ``infarct'' as ``an area of necrosis in a tissue or organ resulting from obstruction of the local circulation by a thrombus or embolus.'' Jawbone necrosis does indeed result from impeded circulation, commonly stemming from trauma to the jawbone. Such trauma is largely iatrogenic, the result of standard dental treatment. Any large fillings, crowns, bridges (including the once healthy teeth used as abutments for the bridge) veneers, endodontic treatment, periodontal scaling, tooth extractions, injections (particularly of vasoconstrictive anesthetics), placement of toxic and/or incompatible restorative materials - all of these insults to the jawbone seriously reduce the blood supply to it. Where blood supply is compromised, toxins can't get out, nutrients and oxygen can't get in.
By the time toxins gain systemic access, alkaline reserves have become depleted. The blood then becomes hyper viscous, and infarction can occur. Such infarction tends to occur initially in the small vessels associated with traumatized bone tissue in the jaw. These infarctions of the microcirculation, it would appear, are a major factor in the development and spreading of jawbone cavitations. Fischer understood this years ago when he wrote of ``infarctions induced of microorganismal emboli.''
The dental trauma most often associated with cavitations is the standard tooth extraction, particularly if it involves the third molar (or wisdom tooth) sites. Although taught in dental school, it is not common practice today for the surgeon excavating these teeth to thoroughly remove the periodontal ligament that attaches tooth to bone. Once the tooth is removed, this ligament serves no purpose, and if any part of it is permitted to remain in the jaw, it serves as a barrier to healing, impeding blood flow and preventing re-growth of bone. While the extraction site will invariably ``heal'' shut, the healing is quite often incomplete, for below the healed-over surface, a pocket or hole has formed. This hollow space becomes a breeding ground for anaerobic microorganisms. It is very possibly these microorganisms that form the infarction-inducing embolus of which Fischer wrote so many years ago. When the metabolic waste products of these bacteria interact with chemical toxins (from restorative materials, anesthetics, etc.) in the oral cavity, the result is the production of super toxins. The extreme toxicity thus created may well reduce bacterial population.
Whether or not a cavitation forms following the standard extraction of a tooth will depend largely upon how much of the periodontal ligament happens to be removed with the tooth (some portion usually comes out, even when the surgeon is making no attempt at removal of it) AND the type of microorganisms which are present at the site. More damaging than the microorganisms themselves are the extremely potent toxins they produce. Once these bacterial toxins gain systemic access, they can do a great deal of harm through inhibition of enzymes and minerals as described above. The necrosis they produce is actually a gangrenous condition, which tends to spread to other areas of the jawbone. Detoxification is a significant challenge at this point and an absolute impossibility in the face of the continuance of the focal condition (infected tooth and/or jawbone).
Treatment of choice for jawbone cavitations is surgical removal of the necrotic and infected bone, for in the presence of such bone, the conditions that created the infection remain, and blood supply continues to be impaired. This surgical procedure is a relatively simple one when done in conjunction with a new extraction. It is much more difficult where old extraction sites are concerned. Here the task is complicated by the fact that there has been, up until very recently, no way to clearly visualize the cavitation site and gain information about its dimensions and other distinguishing features short of opening up the site and `looking around.' Even then, the site cannot be viewed from all angles. To the trained eye, the panoramic x-ray can reveal indications of the presence of a cavitation, but not always. Even when it does, details are often not clearly discernible, and the surgeon is still operating `in the blind' to some degree. The 2-dimensional x-ray image cannot adequately reflect anomalies in the 3-dimensional jawbone. In some instances, cavitations can be depicted on x-ray; however, as much as 50% of the bone must be affected before their presence is apparent.
The MRI, while the `gold standard' for detecting osteonecrosis of the hip, does not work well with the flat bones of the face. Tech 99 bone scans are about 70% effective when a special contrast medium is used. Jawbone cavitations can also be imaged through CT scan, when a spiral scan is taken from about the middle of the sinus to the bottom of the mandible. These methods, however, are neither practical nor cost-effective for use by the dental profession. They expose the patient to the adverse effects of radiation and require the interpretive services of a radiologist who is unlikely to recognize jawbone cavitations because he has not been trained to do so. The aware dentist has long been in need of a reliable instrument for clearly and safely imaging jawbone cavitations; ideally an instrument that could be used ``in house.'' Such an instrument is now available, due to the unflagging efforts of Bob Jones. The story of his dental drama is interesting, more dramatic than my own (told in my book, Beyond Amalgam) and worth telling here.
A decade ago, Bob was a specimen of perfect health - or so it seemed. He was employed full-time as a commercial airline pilot, worked part-time as a ski instructor. This avid outdoorsman was slim, trim and fit. That all changed in 1987 when he was stricken with chronic debilitating fatigue, muscle atrophy and a neurological condition that baffled specialists. By 1992, he had become completely disabled, was wheelchair bound, had lost use of his arms and gained an excessive amount of weight. While the MDs couldn't come to agreement on the exact nature of the problem and finally settled upon a speculative diagnosis of ALS, they were in agreement on one thing: Bob's condition was terminal. They had given him no more than six months to live, when he stumbled upon an understanding of the source of his problem and a way to turn it around. His search for solutions led him to the realization that potent toxins, by-products of standard dental treatments were essentially poisoning his system. Bob's symptoms subsided, and his condition dramatically improved once his diseased bone marrow and ``silver'' fillings were removed. Today he is completely mobile and moderately active. Much of his excess weight has been lost. Bob is quick to point out, however, that his recovery has not been 100%. At this point in time, chronic cavitation patients can expect improvement but often not complete cure, owing to the severity and duration of their condition.
Even before his recovery, Bob set out to develop an instrument designed to detect jawbone cavitations. Since these lesions routinely elude detection through standard diagnostic procedures, the need for an improved imaging device was apparent. As a design engineer with a background in sonar technology, Bob was convinced from the onset that such an imaging device could be developed using sonography. Six months after commencing the arduous task of `cleaning out' his jawbone, Bob had developed the first working prototype of the CAVITAT�. There would be many design revisions and obstacles put in his path in the years to follow, but he worked diligently to make his vision of a perfected CAVITAT� the reality that it has now become.
The CAVITAT's proprietary analog to digital circuitry has been awarded 19 patents. There are 22 additional patents pending on the flexible circuit receiver and its advanced cross-channel noise suppression technique. The device is unique in the sonography market in that it is engineered to show only bone, no soft tissue. All other ultrasound devices do just the opposite - show tissue but no bone. And, the image they display is 2-dimensional, while the CAVITAT� displays a 3-dimensional color-coded image. These colors (green, yellow, red) reflect the degree of bone loss and necrosis. The 3-D computer images may be rotated so that they can be viewed from all angles. One image is generated for each of the 32 tooth sites, and all can be displayed on the screen simultaneously. This allows the operator to see the overall picture and how one affected site can influence adjacent ones. Each of the 32 images consists of 64 elements or pixels. These detailed images are identified as to orientation - ``B'' for buccal and ``D'' for distal.
The new Generation 4 CAVITAT� differs from its prototype precursor in many important respects. The resolution has been increased 800%, making for a much clearer image and enabling detection of smaller cavitations. The Generation 4 is capable of detecting jawbone defects down to 1/64 of an inch in diameter.
Bob Jones had introduced a limited number of Generation 3 CAVITATs to a select number of dentists at the end of 1999. These were prototype models used for field evaluation. The feedback from the dentists using them provided the data necessary to make desired improvements. The software was totally rewritten, and the net result was a user-friendly state-of-the-art precision instrument. It is this version of the CAVITAT� that is now being made available to doctors and dentists to assist in diagnosis of jawbone cavitations and other bony defects of the jaw.
The significance of this technological break through cannot be overemphasized. The success of cavitation surgery is dependent upon many variables. A major one is the extent to which necrotic tissue is removed. Before the advent of the CAVITAT�, dentists were operating very much in the blind, unable to see the full extent of the necrosis and therefore unable to remove all necrotic bone. The result for many patients was poor bone healing, unchecked spreading of necrotic lesions and consequent need for repeat surgeries. While excision of all diseased bone will not necessarily assure full recovery, it certainly does improve the odds. Most patients have had jawbone cavitations for a number of years before they are discovered. Consequently, by the time treatment is initiated, a great deal of serious damage has been done. Dr. Fischer had stated in Death and Dentistry, ``It is only in the earliest stages of oral disease that arrest of progressive infection seems possible.'' With the development of the CAVITAT�, early detection is finally possible. It may be our only hope of putting the reigns on this silent, insidious condition that appears to have reached epidemic proportions.
While thorough excision of osteonecrotic lesions is necessary in the treatment of cavitations, for the chronic cavitation patient, it is often not sufficient. Aggressive detoxification measures are also in order. These must be tailored to the needs of the individual patient with regard to his/her specific detoxification capabilities and overall condition. Nutritional support is also essential - for rebuilding bone, improving circulation, combating infection, chelating heavy metals.
While surgical treatment of cavitations falls within the domain of the dental profession, the metastatic infection seeded by these lesions has systemic consequences that should be of interest to all physicians. It is therefore imperative that every patient history taken by all physicians and health care providers include questions about dental treatment. Remember: Any trauma to the jaw can be the beginning of cavitations.
The high-speed drill routinely used by dentists cracks enamel, thus allowing bacterial toxins to penetrate the dentine. There is evidence that such drills cause actual pulp damage. Drilling done then in preparation of a tooth for routine fillings, crowns and bridges can be damaging to the jawbone. Root canals will unquestionably cause cavitations sooner or later, as will routine extractions (where the socket is not properly cleaned out, with all necrotic/infected bone removed). The eclectic physician will not only want to question his patients about these procedures, s/he will also want to be in a position to diagnose jawbone cavitations, or to refer patients to a dentist who is able to make such a diagnosis. Once the diagnosis is made, it is desirable that the dentist and primary physician work together in instigating a treatment plan and following up with patient.
In working with the chronic cavitation patient, it is imperative that the entire jawbone be considered and examined - not just the site(s) of extractions. A mistake that is frequently made is to clean out new extraction sites, while ignoring old ones. If all necrosis is not removed, it will spread - and will ultimately re-infect a new extraction site, even one that was properly cleaned out. Taking things a step further, it is important to be aware that the spreading of jawbone cavitations is not confined to edentulous areas. When the bone beneath an apparently ``vital'' tooth becomes affected/infected, blood supply to that tooth is greatly reduced, and it begins to die. Neither oral exam, nor x-ray evaluation will likely reveal a problem with such a tooth. ElectroDermal Screening and muscle testing may also miss the problem. The patient, however, frequently has a sense of something being ``not quite right'' with the tooth. (The chronically sensitive tooth often is an indication of the presence of jawbone necrosis beneath it) If he or she insists upon its extraction (usually against the advice of the dentist) and manages to talk his/her dentist into removing it, that dentist is counseled to carefully examine the extracted tooth. Chances are very good that upon drilling into the pulp chamber, s/he will find that the tooth is dead or dying. This avitality is reflected by lack of moisture in the pulp chamber, a result of severely restricted blood flow. I say all of this from personal experience, for three of my mandibular extractions done in '99 and '00 were performed at my insistence against the initial protestations of my dentist, who fortunately was open-minded and curious enough to drill open the pulp chambers of the extracted teeth.
Dentists are taught to save the tooth at all costs. Frequently, however, the price paid is the systemic health of the patient. Dead and dying teeth should not remain in the jaw, even if they are causing no acute distress to the patient. If CAVITAT� scan of the jawbone shows pronounced necrosis under a ``vital'' tooth, please entertain the possibility that the tooth only appears to be vital, and is, in fact, dying. Healthy teeth don't grow out of necrotic bone.
For the chronic cavitation patient, extraction may be both the beginning and end of his or her health problems. The improperly done extraction (usually of a wisdom tooth) is frequently the beginning of a problem which may go undetected for decades, and then only be resolved by the proper extraction of some, or possibly all, of the remaining teeth, along with removal of necrotic bone from edentulous areas and aggressive systemic detoxification. Prevention and early detection are the keys to avoiding this outcome. Improved imaging capabilities give us the tool for such early intervention.. The first step in solving the problem, however, is awareness of it. You have taken that step and are urged to take the next one. Doctors: Learn to recognize jawbone cavitations and to either treat them surgically, or refer your patient to a qualified cavitation surgeon for treatment. Patients: Seek out a dentist familiar with jawbone pathology: It may be the unsuspected cause of your systemic problems.
Fischer, Martin H. Death and Dentistry. Charles C. Thomas, LTD: Springfield, IL, 1940.
Stockton, Susan. Beyond Amalgam: The Health Hazard Posed by Jawbone Cavitations. Power of One Publishing: Aurora, CO, 2000.
Suzin Stockton, MA, is a recognized writer and researcher in the field of natural health and medicine. She is author of a number of books and articles, including Beyond Amalgam and The Terrain is Everything (available through Power of One Publishing, 1-727-539-1700). Susan lives and works in Clearwater, FL, where she is a writer with Renew Life Formulas. More of her articles and information on her books and videos may be accessed on her web site www.healthcarealternatives.net.Posts: 654 | Registered: Oct 2003
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Wallace, you can have your dental health tested either via ART or by sending your pano x-ray to a surgeon who is capable of reading the x-ray. Most "regular" dentists are not able to do this. It does not cost a huge amount of money (it's a lot less than CAVITAT screening), and then the decision-making for you is a lot easier.
Dr. K. tests the panos/teeth with ART -- that's a good starter for many patients. Then they turn it over to a capable oral surgeon.
By the way, the CAVITAT is not totally conclusive to make a decision of whether you have or do not have a problem. This is what I was told by the best oral surgeon in the country (in the world, I think) who has diagnosed Lyme Disease in two out of three patients starting in the early ninetees. I will take that person's word for it who told me "If I thought the CAVITAT worked, I would have one". That person does not have one.
Take care.
Just passing on what served me and others well on my road to wellness.
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I had my one molar root canal removed and the holistic dentist who did it tried to sell me a non metal bonded bridge.
Everything I looked up on this said it would not hold up on a molar and at the $3000 he wanted for it I couldnt afford to have it fail. Not to mention they grind down a whole bunch of the 2 healthy side teeth to attach it to.
I called my old dentist and he is making me a removable flexite partial for around $400. Cant remember exactly.
No matter how much I told the holistic dentist how uncomfortable I was with my options for tooth replacement he never once mentioned a partial as an option.
It was GIGI who told me about asking about the partial. I will be getting it soon. This way if it breaks I can afford to replace it and I havnt done anything drastic to my other teeth and can always do something different later if I should so choose.
My old dentist says they are very strong and I should have no trouble biting a chewing the whole almonds I so love.
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I want to get one of those--its a removable "flexite" partial--no metal?
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My husband had one of these flexite partials for a few years. No metal whatsoever.
One thing you really have to check into is your eye-glasses, especially if you have metals in the mouth. No metal rim eye glasses if you have neuro symptoms. They may not kill you, but combined with all other non-compatibles, the glasses can be having a bad effect.
I instinctively never liked metal frame glasses - I just was never comfortable with them. Little did I know, it was my crowns and bridges that created eletrco galvanism -- no wonder I was buzzing and could work non-stop never needing rest, never being tired, until one fine day I collapsed when all overwhelmed my system.
Look out for these things - metal in and on the body is always a problematic thing when you are ill. I did not wear a ring or any jewelry for years - I could not stand it, it made me uneasy. Now I can hang the biggest clunkers on me without a problem. I cleaned up my body.
Toxic inside - beware what you wear.
Take care.
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Just wanted to interject my recent experience. I had a tooth pulled and suffered agonizing pain, but only INTERMITTENTLY. Due to some expert advice on this board, I used steam saunas and Sudafed. Sudafed was the only relief I received.
I ended up going to an oral surgeon who is also a general surgeon. He sent me for a CAT scan and an MRI of my sinuses. By the way, this surgeon is Harvard trained and takes care of some of the most difficult cases in this city--AND he is not a proponent of root canals. He thinks it is possible to salvage most teeth with special care.
Guess what--I did not need my tooth pulled!! I have a very recalcitrant maxillary sinus infection that has infected a nerve.
Just like everything is not Lyme, not everything is caused by your teeth. I would recommend before permanently changing your bite, etc. (especially if you are young!) I would recommend getting a CAT Scan or MRI BEFORE doing anything irrevocable to your mouth.
I have spent thousands of $ on this tooth, went to biological dentists, lost a permanent tooth, and still had pain! I will now be seeing an ENT.
Just another thought . . .
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Thanx about the flexite. I had the nightmare-from-hell dentist experience recently with a dentist who was apparently so inept, anyway she fractured my jaw in pulling a tooth and I ended up with a loose bone fragment as well as missing bone, and it has taken months to start settling down (as well as an additional surgery to remove the piece of loose bone that was dying and trying to poke out). That bone had to be shaved down. It was all excruciating and my nerves were inflamed for months with pain down my arm and leg. It still is sore and sometimes my foot hurts in response but is improving.
Anyway all this nightmare got me to a very good dentist who finally did what they're all supposed to do, which is use that little metal tool to push into each tooth to see if there is any decay. Just using that he fuond 3 other teeth that need fillings. I realized that nobody has done that for me in about ten years in spite of me going for cleanings every 4 months. So I began to realize the dental industry like much of the medical industry is geared mostly towards $ and that means, don't get decay till its too far gone because then you will be able to do crowns root canals bridges etc, maybe even implants! all very costly!
Catch it early, a composite filling is just not enough payback for the dentist.
So I finally have a good dentist I can trust. He tested everything including my bite, my muscles, my gums, etc. Dental care is as important as medical care and just as with doctors its hard to find a good one you can trust. You're in their hands and you figure they will tell you if something is wrong but they only tell you way too late. It could even be just a subconscious inclination, I mean, after all, they'd rather earn 3/4 million a year than 1/4 million a year.
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Hi Wallace My brain filing system is highly unreliable but will tell you that from what I gleaned all bridges have a metal core for strength. Just cuz the metal is covered up by some plastic and you dont see it doesnt mean its not there and poisining your body
I know there are special labs that test for material compatibility for dental materials. Gigi has posted about them here.
You might want to talk to your dentist about getting a non metal partial made especially since you said all the trouble started after getting the bridge.
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glad you folks are posting about bridges, etc.. As I was debating the bridge route or just having ALL my teeth pulled and going with plates.
Hate to do it, but guess I have to after reading GiGi's posts, etc..
The Dental Component by Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D., PhD
Much has been written and said in the NTA and B manuals. Here is an update on new developments.
1.The Structural Component:
There are 2 basic approaches to get the bite right
A)The intuitive/knowledge based approach (which can be enhanced with cranio-sacral skills, interpretation of model-casts, kinesiology exam etc.). B)The approach using x-rays , models and various instruments or determine, where the bite should be.
For me, 2 approaches have stood out and I recommend the attending dentists to investigate them:
the acculiner by Jim Carlson ,DDS and Runar Johnson, DDS to find the optimal plane of bite. The appliance will be presented during the seminar b) the ALF appliance by Jerry Smith,DDS to gently expand the upper jaw and open the cranium 2.The Toxicity Issue
All dental materials are potentially toxic with a broad individual variety of reactions. Mercury and tin stand out as neuro-toxins. Mercury has the ability to destroy or damage the axonal transport system inside of each nerve (most affected are unmyelinated nerves: c-fibers or pain-nerves and the autonomic nerves) and trap basically all other environmental toxins. Therefore, mercury potentizes the damage done by all other environmental toxins.
Evidence will be presented from the latest research of top German toxicologist Max Daunderer,M.D. that the entire jaw bone (upper and lower jaw) has become for most of us a toxic waste dump for the following materials:
Pesticides Solvents (see also A.R.T.manual) ( mostly lower jaw) Formaldehyde (mostly lower jaw) Amalgam ( mercury, tin, copper, silver) (jawbone and max.sinus) Palladium (from gold crowns) (mostly upper jaw) All other dental materials to a lesser degree Through biopsies Daunderer found, that virtually all inhaled toxins are stored in the jaw bone in the areas adjacent to the root tips.
Metals and toxins leave characteristic changes in the jaw bone:
Amalgam on the dental roots: spiral like brightness around the roots; white slice like brightness between the molar roots Amalgam-lake: soft, nebulous wide level at the bottom of the maxillary sinus Gold on the roots: bright, hard strips around the roots Gold-lake: bright, hard level at the bottom of the maxillary sinus Palladium on the roots: the outline of the root appears to be hazy, as if the root is dissolving Palladium-lake: one or more horizontal stripes at the bottom of the max.sinus, often underneath the amalgam level Other metals: aluminum, lead, bismuth etc. leave soft white dots around the roots or the neck of the tooth Inhaled toxins: Daunderer was able to determine the age of the toxin exposure according to how deep the toxin has spread from the supplying artery into the jaw-bone. If the toxin reaches all the way to the cortical bone, the inhalation dates back more then 30 years. Formaldehyde: Pinhead size white dots, which are perfectly round in the area of the angle of the jaw, stripe like at the edge of the jaw bone Mercury: soft, white nebulous level at the bottom of the sinus. In extreme cases also as soft white spots in the ascending part of the mandible. Palladium: inhaled palladium comes i.e. from car-catalytic converters. It settles at the bottom of the sinus as rough, thin line or several lines Platinum: from car cat.converters, settles as soft line at the bottom of the sinus, especially, if the patient is already mercury toxic Solvents: inhaled solvents form dark round circular deposits -like a lake -in the ascending part of the mandible. The age can be assessed by location Pesticides: PCP, Lindan etc. look like the solvent-lakes, but have a sharp, white margin Smoking: outlines the blood vessels in the jaw
These are Daunderer's findings, which clarify a statement I have made for years: cavitations in the jaw bone are a symptom, not the cause of disease. Daunderer recommends to not close the surgical site, but leave a gauze strip in place. The jaw bone detoxes itself massively through the open wound (he found up to 20000 ppb of Hg in the gauze after 24 hours).
Amalgam in the Brain
1.Putamen : right side: manic behavior
left side: depression. Both sides even: manic depression
If there is amalgam in the brain stem, Vitamin B12, C and F and psychotropic medications (Prozac etc.) can potentiate the amalgam damage!
2.Pallidum: located on the cranial base, responsible for continuity of muscular movements. Most common symptom: Intention-Tremor. Children of smoking mothers are predisposed to deposit their mercury here (damage from carbonmonoxide)
3.Spinal chord: most common symptom: kidney failure . Best kidney test: alpha-1- microglobulin in serum or urine. Typical and often overlooked in MS. Most often reversible with DMPS etc.
Neck-Musculature ( "Trigger-Points"): causes neck pain and headaches, torticollis. Always reversible with treatment
Daunderer's Axiom:
Without allergy to a specific metal the metal will not be stored in the brain!
(he estimates that 90% of the population are allergic to and therefore brain-toxic with metals)
Klinghardt's Axiom:
In order to detox the brain from metals, the metal allergies have to be identified and treated before, during and after the detox-program.
( NAET or the McCoombs or Phillips program are effective)
Other storage sites in the brain:
Pituitary: in the anterior pituitary the inhaled metals are stored (dentists), in the posterior pituitary the dental metals (Amalgam, Palladium) Brain-Stem: all metals and other toxins stored here lead to multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS). Metals usually get here first and trap the other toxins Cortex: metals here lead to atrophy Lateral ventricles: every amalgam carrier and child of a mother who was an amalgam-carrier shows here dotted metal deposits the size of pin-heads. These are referred to as u.b.os in radiology (unknown brown objects - white matter lesions). Daunderer showed, that these patients are predisposed to develop MS, if their fillings are removed without the appropriate care. The lesions however disappear, if the amalgam is removed properly. Other interesting facts: Daunderer performed serial biopsies on malignant tumors in patients, that were amalgam carriers and found predictably Amalgam in the tumor. The concentration is highest in the center of the tumor (malignant melanoma, brain cancer, bladder, stomach, colon and tongue cancer, exactly as Omura did with his bi-digital O-ring test, a variation of A.R.T.). Daunderer also found the following other toxins concentrated in the center of these tumors: other metals - formaldehyde - solvents Clinical pearls from Daunderer: Symptom Main toxin secondary toxin
allergy formaldehyde( F) Amalgam ( A)
asthma F A
depression A F
over-stimulated F A
listless A all others
memory loss solvents (S) Aluminum
smell (poor) pesticides (P) A
hormonal problems P A
deafness A all others
infections P A
motor loss A P
Arthritis A Palladium
Insomnia A F
Vertigo solvents P
vision problems A( Hg, tin) S
tremor A Lead
panic attacks F
immune breakdown Dioxin
learning disability lead
hyperactivity lead
cancer lead
Osteoporosis cadmium
depression cadmium
headaches cadmium
Sources:
lead: old water pipes (sautering)
cadmium: plastics
dioxin: passive smoking, paper mills, garbage burning plants
1. all plastics give off small molecules, which are estrogen analogues.
Worst are the dental sealants used in children
2. all plastics have strange effects on the immune system, especially those closest to the dentin. The smaller the molecules, the more immunogenic
Each material placed in the mouth or anywhere else in the body is a "resonator", forcing the system to respond and to adapt to the electro-magnetic properties. Gold, platinum and palladium are neurotoxins, highly allergenic and should not be used in the mouth. I believe that I have seen enough evidence from German studies, that the most compatible material currently used in dentistry is ART-glass (both filling, crown and bridge material) and carboxylate cement. Bonding agents should only be used, if an argon laser can be used as a curing light to form long molecules, which are less allergenic.
The current N.T approach for detox:
A regimen using segmental therapy, ganglion injections, DMPS, chlorella, cilantro and garlic will be discussed in detail. The injection techniques are outlined in NT A and B.
The Melisa Test from Sweden (Karolinska Institut, Vera Stejskal, Tel:
0046/8/655 7698)
Memory Lymphocyte Immuno Stimulation Assay
This is the most advanced test for allergies towards dental materials.
There are 2 varieties:
morphology test: the lymphocytes are observed under the microskope, while they are exposed to a dilution of the toxin Thymidin test: radioactive thymidin is used to demonstrate allergies of the type IV It is this test that has exposed gold, platinum, paladium and other dental metals as possible haptens. The mechanism will be explained during the seminar. It makes these metals from here on unacceptable as dental materials except in particular well chosen circumstances. Placing gold in a patient's mouth is playing russian roulette with the patient's health. The only test, that currently correlates well with the MELISA test is ART, which is reliable, fast and inexpensive. The blood tests from Colorado do not correlate well with the MELISA test and should be considered from here on only as adjunctive tests.
The Superior Cervical Ganglion Block
This sympathetic ganglion has a unique task: it modifies all efferent impulses and commands, that travel in the sympathetic nervous system to the brain and all structures of the face, head and upper neck region. Dysfunction of this ganglion can create problems in any of the involved structures.
Even though outlined in previous NT seminars, here is a translation of the published literature ( in: H.Barop, Lehrbuch und Atlas der Neuraltherapie, Hippokrates 1996, pp 204 - 209)
The Goebel Technique (intra-oral approach)
The patient sits or lies supine. The mouth is wide open. An illuminated spatulum is used. The connecting line between upper and lower tonsillar pole marks the lateral border of the 2nd cervical vertebra, whose transverse process lies in the same plane.The point of injection lies 0.5 cm distal (medial) to the mid-tonsillar region. A 30G,1"needle is slowly advanced 1.5 cm pointing slightly laterally at an angle of 20 degrees. The needle tip lies now in the retropharyngeal space anterior to the neurovascular bundle of the internal carotid artery, directly at the level of the superior cervical ganglion. Aspirate twice and again after turning the needle 180 degrees. Inject initially 0.2- 0.4 cc procaine. If the patient remains comfortable, inject slowly a total of 2 cc.
Inject only one side per treatment!! Possible problems: bilateral paresis of the laryngeal recurrent nerve with trouble breathing and dysregulation of the circulation.
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All I can say, people, whether you have Lyme Disease or not, have any material that you contemplate being put into your mouth tested b e f o r e you have the work done. If your dentist snickers at you when you bring the subject up, head for the door and find one that that has a bit of a "broader horizon".
Take care.
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Please note that the article Wallace so kindly posted is already a good ten years old. That is one of the articles I found when I started to research "my teeth" upon falling deathly ill following a tick bite in 1996.
Basically, nothing has changed from Dr. K's standpoint, except what has been learned and added for treatment in the years since then.
For most people, especially dentists, the earth is still flat and the moon is blue. I hope you all have read the recent post of the resident dentist on this board.
Take care and read and learn.
There is not much left for me to say and I will shut up for the next 15 minutes.
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Gigi, yes I read the post and was saying to myself "Oh my". Ill for years and seeing no connection with profession and his mouth?
My body says through muscle testing that all is sealed off in my mouth. Do not disturb any of it now. Additional metals or root canal (I have 1)will be harmful. I'm not sure my body is telling the truth. I'm going to keep it coming up with each visit.
Maybe it's just not my body's priority now.
Thanks for all your advice on the matter,
Pam
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As you know finding a good dentist is all important here. I live in sunny(!) Britain. I going to check out this dentist. www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk
Is this the kind of person we need to find?
Sunny thoughts Wallace
A article by them:
Mercury Free Dentistry
A passport to better health
by Dr Graeme Munro-Hall and Lilian Munro-Hall
About the Authors Dr. Graeme Munro-Hall has been a Dentist in the UK and Europe for 25 years. He was awarded his Fellowship of the IAOMT in 1992 for work on Dental Detoxification. Dr. Lilian Munro-Hall is also a Dentist. They have lectured world wide on Dental Detoxification and Hall V-Tox Therapy. They have a Clinic, with some residential places, set up to treat the sensitive and ill patient as well the more normal dental patients. The Clinic is as environmentally clean as possible in very peaceful semi-rural surroundings just outside Bedford. Easily reached by Road, Rail or Air. They can be contacted at: West Rise Manor, 20 Bromham Road, Biddenham, Bedford MK40 4AF. Tel 07050 - 611333, Fax 07050 - 611444. Email: [email protected] & www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk
Microscope photograph of an amalgam filling. The drops on the surface are pure mercury A white blood cell full of metal
We are dentists. Definitely not normal dentists. We realised over ten years ago that mercury from amalgam fillings could injure patients, so we became ``Mercury Free''. Now we are of the opinion that all metals have the possibility to injure patients, so now we are ``Metal Free'' as well. We use an American formaldehyde free composite and porcelain instead. The picture shows a white blood cell choked with metal, these cells are not capable of dealing with metal. We wrote about our treatment, Hall V-Tox Therapy, for Positive Health some years ago (Issue 11 April/May 1996 and Issue 12 May/June 1996). At that time we took out mercury amalgam fillings, gave vitamin C infusions with glutathione with excellent results. Experience over the years has shown us we knew only part of the picture then. A lot more of the picture is open to us now but the principle remains: prepare the patient - remove the toxic load - allow natural healing to occur. We realised that we cannot ``Cure'', we just set the stage for the patient to start their own healing processes. We will describe what we do and why we do it. We will give two graphic Case Studies to illustrate the point and why the patients call what we do their ``Passport to Better Health''. Patients come in four broad categories, Auto immune, Chronic fatigue, Multiple Chemical Sensitivity and Allergy.
Background It is not news that mercury leaks out of amalgam fillings. The picture shows pure mercury droplets on an amalgam filling. These droplets are inhaled and swallowed every time you eat, drink or brush your teeth. Within seconds of inhaling mercury it is lodged in the brain. Mercury is the most toxic metal naturally occurring on the planet, so the brain is not a good place for it to be. Neither is the gut. The science is clear about mercury and the damage it can do. But we found over the years that mercury is not alone in exerting its baleful influence on health. Patients would come to us having had their amalgams out and replaced with gold alloys and other metals and they were as ill, or worse than before treatment. This did not mean that metals were not behind their symptoms and that the problem was all in the patient's head as was claimed, but just the opposite. It meant that the patient's defences were so weakened that they could not cope with removing the amalgam and having a new metal placed in their teeth instead. We found palladium to be the worst culprit but had patients who reacted to gold, platinum indeed the whole range of metals used in dentistry. We came to the conclusion that ``only robots need metal spare parts''. Even worse was to come. Patients would come to us insisting that something was wrong with their root filled tooth, or something was in the bone where a tooth had been removed years previously. Testing of the root filled teeth showed them to be massively toxic, shedding organic poisons into the body. Similarly we found using CT scans holes in the bone where teeth had been extracted years before. These holes were full of organic poisons as well, they are now known as cavitations. These toxins came from bacteria ``walled up'' in the dead teeth or bone. The bacteria are anaerobic, that is they live without oxygen, and it is their metabolic by products that are the problem. To put it another way, they live inside a walled city protected from bodies defenders or immune system by the city wall. However, they throw their rubbish over the wall which poisons the environment and weakens the defenders. The body has no method of dealing with these toxins and they accumulate in the body over the years. Tests for these organic toxins are now available. The lesson we learned was to listen to our patients and trust what they tell us. We ask them how they feel and do not rely absolutely on laboratory tests. Many a patient would come to us with files of laboratory results, all within the normal ranges, but still they were sick. It really means that we are at an early stage in the understanding of patients poisoned by heavy metals and organic toxins. So imagine this, you are exposed to mercury from your fillings. It accumulates in the body over the years. The organic toxins from the bacteria accumulate over the years. Other metals and chemicals enter the body and accumulate for years. It is like taking a trip from the house and leaving a tap dripping in the sink. Eventually it will run over and cause damage. When it will cause damage depends on how big the sink is, (your resistance) and how fast the tap is dripping (your exposure to the toxins). You must turn off the tap (reduce toxin exposure) and pull out the plug from the sink (get rid of the accumulated toxins). Easy to say but hard to do. Perhaps you get back early enough from the trip to turn off the tap, empty the sink and prevent catastrophic damage. Or maybe you are too late, the water has overflowed, it has brought down the ceiling, ruined the carpets and soaked the walls. Then it becomes a lengthy job to get back to the state you were in before the trip, if indeed you can. Attacking the symptoms is not enough, you must sort out the tap and the sink or the symptoms will come back. This is a good analogy because on some people the carpets are damaged, on others the ceiling is down. The repairers of the ceilings and the carpet dealers may tell you the two are unrelated events but this is not so, it depends where the sink was placed, i.e. individual variation. It doesn't take Einstein to work it out, because experience of hundreds of patients over many years shows us that turning off the tap and emptying the sink will allow patients to recover.
What we do and why we do it There is a strict timetable in what we do. This has to be followed, no short cuts or you are reducing the patient's chance of recovery or risking complications. The sink has to be prepared first for emptying, the leaks sealed and the drains open. This takes at least four weeks of diet modification and supplementation. 1 pH checked and controlled. The majority of patients are too acidic but alkaline patients are seen too. Modern diet, drugs, infections, chemicals and soft drinks all contribute to our acidic inner environment. pH is measured daily in saliva and urine. Potassium citrate or lemon juice will regulate over acidity, milk whey is good for alkaline patients. We want to see a urine pH of 6.5 minimum and 6.8 for saliva without the wild fluctuations commonly seen at the beginning of treatment. A good stable pH sets the stage for the rest of the cast we are going to call on. 2 Good gut bacteria. We use a patented living culture grown for us on an oat base in Sweden. Most gut bacteria are dried and prepared on a milk base. This makes them poorly tolerated by ill patients with lactose sensitivity. These bugs crowd out the baddies and start sealing up the intestine. Doing steps 1 and 2 corrects most Candida we see. Mercury plays havoc with bacteria because it is so toxic. Those bugs that can survive mercury poisoning become antibiotic resistant and upset the gut flora. Nearly all patients have digestive problems and/or food sensitivities. Constipation and/or diarrhoea as the most commonly seen symptoms. The problem starts with the gut. The gut has to be addressed first. No exceptions. We give a whole range of supplements, essential fatty acids, fruitoligo-saccarrides, many different minerals and vitamins in two stages. We want to seal the intestine to prevent immune system and liver detoxification system overload. Do not even dream of putting a drill inside the mouth until the immune and liver detoxification systems are optimised. Patients have mineral imbalances due to diet and poor absorption. Just to give an example, we give magnesium in four different forms. We want magnesium to go to the outside and the inside of the cell wall, we want it inside the mitochondria which are the energy producers of the cell. The same applies to other minerals. When we drill or do surgery we cause the patient stress. The better the patient is prepared to handle this stress, the quicker will be the end result. Now the sink is leak proof and the drains are open, time to turn the tap off. You cannot turn off the tap without first opening it, which is why it is essential to get the sink ready. The patient is exposed to the toxins when they are removed, so the risk of this must be reduced. We take extreme measures to protect the patient. Drilling will release metal, cavitation surgery will release toxins, this release must be minimised. Here are just some of the measures we take - they are worthy of an article in themselves. Around the patient the air is filtered and ionised. The patient has a separate oxygen breathing supply, personal ioniser, rubber dam around the teeth, cysteine rinses to bind the metals, distilled water in all the equipment. We do not want to spray chlorinated water over a wound site. Magnifying intraoral TV cameras to make sure every trace of metal is removed and for record keeping and that is only the beginning. The full International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology protocol is followed. You need to be slow, careful and thorough especially doing cavitations or you end up doing them again. During the week of hands on treatment, the patient has infusions of intravenous vitamin C with the addition of reduced glutathione daily for five days. How much is infused depends on the weight and condition of the patient. 120 grams of vitamin C given IV daily is not unknown. It must be in Lactated Ringers Solution in a ratio of 4:1. Saline solutions are not acceptable for high dose IV vitamin C. Many patients have problems due, we believe to electrolyte imbalance when saline is used. There are no problems if Lactated Ringers Solution is used. We only use glass bottles as the plastic infusion bottles are known to release phthalates from the plastic into the solution. Patients have enough chemicals inside them without us adding to the load unnecessarily. High dose vitamin C by mouth leads to bowel tolerance or flushing and is totally inadequate for most patients for detoxification or protection as well as being uncomfortable. Laboratory testing has indicated large amounts of dental metals are released by the infusions into the stool. This is the way the body normally gets rid of metal, using the Glutathione Pathway via the bile into the stool. We can explain the biochemistry of how this works if anyone is interested. But it does work wonderfully well because we are supporting the bodies own detoxification mechanism not throwing chelation chemicals into the body.
Case Histories Here are two nice case histories, one recent, the other from three years ago. Ben H. rang us last year from America. A property tycoon in his fifties. He had been ill for ten years. Weight was slipping from him, 6 feet tall but only 60 kilos. He had difficulty breathing, especially at night, and was ultra sensitive to all chemicals especially diesel fumes (note that well!). He also suffered from all forms of gut trouble, mainly loose stool. Psychologically he was not as strong as he once was, was prone to panic attacks, his short term memory and concentration had gone to pot. His temperature regulation mechanism was failing with wide daily fluctuations. He had been everywhere on the conventional medicine route and was advised to go into Psychotherapy - ``It's all in your head syndrome'' again. We get tired of hearing that! He had bought a farm in the woods and if he stayed there eating 100% organic food, some supplements and took homoeopathic remedies, he could survive, but still the weight dropped slowly and remorselessly. Most supplements he could not tolerate. He had had every conventional and alternative test that is available. Thermography, Darkfield blood examination, Vega, Electroaccupunture and the others all diagnosed pathology but contradicted each other as to where and what the cause was. Materials testing indicated he reacted to all dental materials. Confusing to say the least. DMPS testing (injections with a very potent chelator developed by the Russians for acute mercury poisoning) had made him very ill. Then he dropped the bombshell. As he began to feel ill, he thought mercury from his amalgam fillings could contribute to his symptoms. Five years previously he had all the amalgams removed and gold put in instead. He had IV-C at the amalgam removal. He began rapidly to go downhill. Within another two years he had a root treatment and the deterioration rate increased. He spent his time researching and came to us, as what we did seemed logical to him, not very invasive, had little or no side effects and good statistical results. He could not travel but was lucky that our further education was done in America so we could arrange and supervise his treatment for him over there. We have not found anyone yet who cannot take our programme, with adaptations, so he began on the supplements and gut bacteria. After six weeks we flew over and the metal fillings were removed as per our protocol and our composite in place of the metals. We just removed the metals and gave the five infusions with intra-musccular vitamin Bs. That was in October. By December he had improved enough to fly for the first time in years so then we took out the root treated tooth and the four cavitation areas around his missing wisdom teeth, also under the protection of IV-C. His improvement has been rapid and continues daily, gut and lung are nearly normal, psychologically he is back to where he was, temperature regulation is normal, he is over 70 kilos now and slowly climbing up. If he sticks to the programme, experience has shown us he will be back to something like his old self by September this year. He is and always will be sensitive to chemicals, especially airborne ones, but he can tolerate them better and longer than he could before. His key was preparing the gut and liver before starting treatment. This is what they had not done five years before and most likely why he worsened after the amalgams came out. He was lucky, he had the time, resources and a considerable intellect to research his problem and he found us. The second case is a lady, 30 years old, a journalist, very bright and very ill. Her amalgams were removed when she was 18 and palladium crowns and bridges put in. She had severe Neurodermatitis, Chronic fatigue, Candida, numerous allergies with multiple food and chemical sensitivities. Her career was threatened. She lived off corticosteroids tablets and creams in ever increasing doses and side effects. Once more it was pH, gut and liver that were first on the list. Then we replaced all her metal-ceramic bridges with InCeram porcelain and gave the appropriate infusions. Within six months she was vastly improved and has been totally symptom free after eight months. She has stayed like this now for three years and is back to a normal stressful journalistic lifestyle, even drinking alcohol again after a many years of abstinence! We surveyed the last 110 patients we treated. 108 said they had improved after the Hall V-Tox Therapy and none had any side effects. We do not use DMPS or DMSA for a variety of reasons but mainly because they remove metal only from the bloodstream and push it through the kidneys, which is not the way the body should get rid of metals. Our laboratory results, statistics, scientific theory and a full background are available for a small administration fee.
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Authors Graeme Hall BDS, FIAOMT & Lilian Winkvist BDS
a treatment for the removal of metal and environmental toxins
We are, English and Danish respectively, General Dental Practitioners working in Dusseldorf, Germany. Graeme Hall is the European President of the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology which researches into and disseminates information about the pathologic effects of dental materials. V-Tox treatment is a combination of high dose vitamin C infusions, dental treatment and diet alteration to restore patients to optimum health. V-Tox was originally developed for patients with health problems due to mercury leaking out from their amalgam fillings, however, it was not long before it widened its scope to cover a range of illnesses and conditions. In brief the V-Tax treatment assesses the patients with a variety of tests, prepares them using dietary intervention then removes toxic dental materials from the mouth at the same time as giving multiple intravenous infusions of high dose sodium ascorbate (vitamin C). It must be made clear from the outset that although we have treated patients with MS and removed or reduced their symptoms this is not a magic bullet cure for MS or any other condition. A person with MS always will have MS. However, by removing the factors that, in all likelihood, triggered the condition we can eliminate or reduce the symptoms. If the patient is exposed to the factors that were the trigger to the disease in the first place, then the disease may return. The patients hereditary predisposition to a particular condition does not alter but their inbuilt resistance to that condition can be strengthened by V-Tox. Dentistry and to an extent medicine use materials that release very toxic materials, these include the metals mercury, palladium and nickel and chemicals such as formaldehyde. These can exert a toxic and allergic effect on patients with devastating but usually undiagnosed symptoms. These symptoms include allergies, auto immune diseases, MS, arthritis, chronic fatigue, psychological problems (anxiety, depression, claustrophobia etc.) and undiagnosed conditions that stop the patient functioning in normal life. It has long been established that mercury is released from amalgam fillings1,2,3 and in quantities above any so called safe limits4. Indeed it releases more mercury Into the body than all other sources combined5. This despite the denials and sometimes downright inaccurate statements of the various dental authorities concerning mercury and amalgam6. In fact, mercury is so toxic there is no known safe limit, it causes measurable effects at all concentrations and the permitted level of mercury allowed in the workplace is constantly being revised downwards7. The 13,000 + references in our computer on amalgam and mercury make it clear to us that there is abundant scientific evidence of the potential of mercury in amalgam fillings to cause damage to health. Practical experience has also shown us that a variety of other dental materials can cause problems. These include other metals such as gold, palladium, copper, chrome, cobalt, silver, nickel, also certain root filling materials and plastics. Whether a patient can tolerate these materials depends on many variables and as yet there is no reliable scientific method developed to test the bio-compatibility of dental materials. It makes for a difficult life for both dentist and patient and turns the normal dental treatment into a lottery where the prizes vary from the unpleasant to the catastrophic for the recipient. The nearest we have is the Melisa test of Prof. Vera Stejskal that is accurate for sensitivity reactions but it is not widely available. Methods such as kinesiology, Vega, Bioresonance, electro-acupuncture and even skin contact allergy tests may give an indication of patient tolerance to various materials but cannot be considered as scientifically accurate. Indeed, skin contact allergy testing can itself cause symptoms to the patient as well as being only fairly accurate and not, unfortunately, scientifically reliable. It is, in our view, somewhat unfortunate that dental materials never had to go through any rigorous testing for bio-compatibility, and that is still the case. The mechanical properties of dental materials are the only one considered important. What is placed in the mouth is considered inert by the authorities and of no medical consequence. So even though both nickel and palladium are known to cause cancer, both metals are allowed to be implanted in the mouth. In combination, of course, the problem is worse as a mixture of metals in a warm damp place like a mouth will corrode and release biologically active metal ions. A gold filling or crown will increase the rate of release of mercury from an amalgam filling by a factor of between 4 and 10 times even if there is no direct contact between the two8. If the gold sits over an amalgam, a situation we often see, the mercury will be deposited in the gum and bone tissue surrounding the tooth. In our opinion there is no safe dental metal, it all depends on the ability of the patient's detoxification systems whether they get any pathology or not from this 24 hour a day exposure to dental metals or not. These systems in turn depend on genetic inheritance, environmental exposures to toxins and haptens, the type of and duration of exposure and dietary influences. Exactly the same can apply to the immune system, the two are interlocked. Toxic reactions from exposure to a metal and allergy or sensitivity reactions to a metal are different but often confused even by professionals. Most patients have both types of reaction. Sensitivity reactions occur at very small exposure to the metal and are an immune system response, while toxic reactions depend on the amount of metal in the body. This happens when the detoxification systems, for whatever reason, are overwhelmed. Sensitivity to a metal can happen after a short or long exposure to the metal and take a myriad of forms. Be it a toxic or a sensitivity problem or a combination of the two, the end result is the patient is sick. The metal must be removed not only from the mouth but from all the body stores safely and gently and V-Tox can accomplish this. Some patients have distinct Illnesses, MS9 and other auto immune diseases, Parkinson's,10 Chronic Iritus, Asthma that are attributable to mercury and other environmental causes even if not yet generally admitted by the medical profession. These patients can have their symptoms eliminated or reduced by V-Tox. Other patients, because of a lack of reliable medical tests, because most of the patients although sick, are still functional and because of professional intransigence receive no label to their symptoms. They remain undiagnosed and therefore out of main stream help. They are told it is all in their heads and seldom get effective treatment. They do not fit the system. Quite often it is true the problem does lie in their heads but it is due to the action of mercury and palladium in the brain that is the problem, not a weakness of character. These patients feel abandoned, alone and are a nuisance to the medical profession because they use enormous amounts of medical time and cannot be treated successfully by pharmaceutical agents or psychiatry. Multiple Chemical Sensitivity and multiple food allergy patients also fit into this category and can be successfully treated by the V-Tox method. Mercury, being so biologically active, is the main culprit. It reduces the effectiveness of the immune system11 that it allows other substances that normally could be well tolerated by the individual to exert a pathological effect. A friend of mine who runs an implant clinic in Germany and Rumania sees few problems with patients with implants in Rumania where they have never had amalgam fillings. This is in direct contrast to his experience in Germany where amalgam was the material of choice for years. Palladium is a common component of crown and bridge metals. It plays no positive role in human biology. It is a very good catalyst which means that it can alter the result of cellular biochemical reactions. The consequence of this is hard to diagnose and seldom fits a specific pattern of symptoms although there are some guides. V-Tox can remove palladium from the body and, we believe, is the only known method of doing so. Due to its use in the catalytic converters of the exhaust systems of cars we are all exposed to palladium vapour especially in towns or cities. Palladium sensitivity, Professor Stejskal a Swedish immunologist, informs us is on the increase. In our view this will become a severe health problem in the not too distant future. Nickel, chrome and even beryllium are used as precious metals substitutes in dentistry in the UK. Nickel is known for its carcinogenic properties and beryllium even more so. There is a move afoot to ban nickel from all medical devices by the European parliament in Strasbourg but whether dentists will take notice of this is problematical. Simply removing amalgam from patients can help approximately 50% of affected people in due time. That still leaves 50% still sick and it was to speed up the rate of recovery and to help this other 50% that V-Tox was developed in its present form. If the amalgam is removed correctly the patient should not get too high a level of mercury from the drilling out of the amalgam fillings. Under IAOMT protocols of amalgam removal our measurements show that these reduce exposure to mercury released from the drilling out by up to 85%. However, how often are no effective protective measures taken on amalgam removal giving the patient a massive dose of mercury and a worsening of symptoms. On the sensitive patient to whom even a small release of the metal will cause a dramatic increase of symptoms, V-Tox has proven its effectiveness in protecting these sensitive patients. To help us in diagnosis we use a variety of measures. These can be blood tests like the Melisa (Memory Lymphocyte Stimulation Assay Test), viral titres, oxidative stress indicators such as total bilirubin, G6PD, LDL cholesterol, albumin and free calcium estimation by the Weston Price method. Saliva IgA for immune status and urine for functional liver detoxification, intestinal permeability and oxidative stress from Great Smokies Diagnostic Laboratory in America can be of assistance. Blood and urine are useless to estimate metal load. They are often used but have little if any clinical significance. A blood measurement of metal is akin to trying to estimate how much traffic is in a town by counting the cars on the motorways near the town. The roads can be full but the town empty of traffic, or the opposite can be the case. The metal in the cells or on the cell membrane is the important factor. Intracellular metal ratios can be measured using the ICD method developed by an American laboratory. Faeces or stool are the only way of estimating metal load as the metal are bound up in the bile salts to be excreted. From the laboratory results you will see exactly how much metal can come out this way. The DMPS and DMSA (chemical chelators), challenge test, whilst accurate, can put terrific stress on the patients and we have seen many cases where patients became ill after such tests even leading to unconsciousness and a month in hospital. It is not a test we recommend because of its aggressive nature. Mercury in the breath can be used to estimate a daily dose from amalgam fillings but not the amount already absorbed in the body. It does, however, give an indication of toxic load without damaging the patient. Patients with MS or chronic iritus it is easy to see the result of V-Tox as they walk again unaided or regain their sight. For the patients without a specific diagnosis we use a standardised symptom form that divides the patient's problems into 6 areas. From this we can judge the effectiveness of the treatment over time. The divisions are psychological, allergy, heart and lung, headache, joint and muscles and digestive tract. In essence the purpose of V-Tox is to remove toxins from the body in a safe way and support the body's own healing mechanisms. This is done by diet modification, supplementation with vitamins, minerals and essential fatty acids, remove metals from the mouth by appropriate dental treatment and remove metals and other toxins from body stores by infusions of mega-dose sodium ascorbate (vitamin C). It sounds and is easy to do but it requires a meticulous step by step approach for success with each patient presenting individual problems. The only contra-indication to this treatment is a G6PD enzyme deficiency and certain types of kidney problems.
References 1 Stock A. The hazards of mercury vapour and amalgam. Zeitschrift fur angewandte Chemie. 39:984-989 1926 2 Vimy & Lorscheider. J. of Trace Elements in Exp. Med. 3:111-123 1990 3 Svare C.W. J. of Dental Research 60:166-71 1981 4 WHO. Environmental Health Criteria on Mercury. 118, 1991 5 Aposian. Faseb 6(7) 2472-6 April 1992 6 ADA patient pamphlet #W186. Dental Amalgam. Filling Dental Health Care Needs. 1985 7 United States Public Health Service ATSDR. Toxicological profile for mercury: update. TP-93/100 page 125 8 Pleva J. Corrosion and mercury release from dental amalgam. J. Orthmmol. Med. 4:141-8 1989 9 T.H. Inglals. Epidemiology, etiology and prevention of MS. Am J. of Forensic Med. & Path. Vol 4, 1983 10 Ngim. Epid. study between mercury body burden and Parkinson's. Neuroepid. 8(3) 128-41 1989 11 Shenker. J of Dental Research 71(SI) 625. A-875
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GiGi said""" It is extremely hard to find a competent oral surgeon or dentist that is lyme literate. """ So how in the great vastness of the midwest do you look for such an oral surgeon? I ask because I want to get all my teeth(or whats left of them) extracted properly, including debrising clear back to the jaw bones. How do I make sure that happens if I am out on the table??? My teeth now have holes thru them and they are crumbing. Nearly every tooth has extensive amalgams, or a root canal and cap. I even have a couple old silver points still in my mouth. Dentist and oral surgeon from long ago said," aw just leave them in there as long as they arent hurting anything" HOW in the world would I know IF they are hurting anything? Plus on the upper right side of where the teeth and jaw meet, I can feel an infection pocket from just rubbing over the area. Been there at least a year or more. have had sinus troubles for 25 years or more. now I am beginning to think they are more teeth and cavitation septic problems instead. If you have a full mouth extraction with debrising to jaw bone I am told is MAJOR surgery. How long before an average person can carry on the normal chores of daily life?? in other words how long do I have to hire my work done FOR me???(so my girlfriends are still happy) I remain--just don--
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Don, call Dr. H.'s office in Reno and ask your questions. Maybe he can point you to someone in your area.
I was off and running a couple of days after the removal. But that was done by the competent Dr. H. They use a certain method in prep and afterward that people really are doing fine quickly afterward. My husband went through the same thing. I cannot vouch for anyone else.
Your teeth sound like they need attention the sooner the better. Lyme Disease in that condition is really just a sideline. You cannot expect much unless you address your teeth. I would ask Dr. H's advice.
It's sad to say, but the problems come afterward finding a dentist who can make a set of dentures you can eat with. Start doing a lot of talking with people who you know have dentures. It took me years to get the right one. It was made for me by a dentist near my old hometown in Germany and you would never know the difference that they are not my own teeth. I wouldn't want my own teeth back for anything. And I do not have to glue them in with Polygrip -- they fit solidly even though I had lost a lot of jawbone.
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I dont know whether Gigi would agree but I am coming to the conclusion that metal free dentists are best preferably members of the IAOMT.
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X-rays are one example and although they are still used, their use is balanced by the harm they do. The practice of using mercury to cure syphilis usually killed the patient rather than cured them and is now no longer used.
The use of dental amalgams brought dentistry out of the Barbers shop to the highly technical discipline it is today. We are now investigating and recognising the effects that the mercury from these fillings has had on the health of generations of individuals.
Dentistry is now investigating the links between root fillings, dead teeth and systemic health problems. This issue will be as controversial as the mercury amalgam issue and has the potential to reshape dental care into the next century.
I am a dental practitioner with 15 years experience of which the past 10 years I have been drawn towards a more (w)holistic approach to my dentistry. The information and conclusions in this article are my opinions based on scientific research and working with complementary health practitioners. They do not reflect the general view of the majority of dentists who practice in the UK. They continue to believe that dental amalgams are safe and that root fillings do no harm.
A root canal treatment is done to save a tooth which otherwise would have needed to be extracted. They are usually done when a tooth dies either due to trauma, decay or having dental work done on that tooth. Certain dental materials are toxic to teeth especially if they are placed too close to the pulp, they will kill the tooth. Care should be used when drilling teeth, as this can cause irreversible damage to the tooth especially if not enough water is used to cool the drill and the resulting overhearing burns and cooks the tooth. Whatever the cause of injury to the pulp (frequently called the nerve) it will die and set off a chain of events which may effect some individuals' health for the rest of their lives.
A tooth is made of three parts, first is the outer layer of enamel which is inert and is what you see when you look into the mouth.
Secondly the inside of the tooth and most of the root is made of dentine which is a living tissue with its own nerve and blood supply. Dentine is perforated by millions of tiny holes called tubules, there are 3 miles of tubules in a lower front tooth and it is fluid flowing through these tubules which can cause hot and cold sensitivity of teeth and creates a vast market for sensitivity toothpastes.
Thirdly there is the pulp in the middle of a tooth in a space called the root canal. As well as containing nerve endings it contains blood vessels, lymph and connective tissue. There is a constant bathing of the dentine component of the tooth from the pulp with nutrients and fluid flowing out along the tubules into the surrounding periodontal tissues. This is essential to maintain healthy teeth. When the fluid flow reverses then decay starts in teeth.
Photo 1 In teeth with more than one root, each root has its own canal that extends from the single pulp chamber
Photo 2 Toxins from pulp bacteria cause inflammation in the bone
Photo 3 A file is used to clean and then shape the canals
Photo 4 The canals are now prepared (shaped) to receive the root canal filling
Photo 5 The dentist now packs the remaining portion of each canal with gutta-percha pieces up to the level of the pulp chamber.
Any injury, chemical, bacterial or thermal can cause these tissues to swell, but as there is little room for swelling in the centre of a tooth, an increase in pressure due to this swelling often cuts off the blood supply to the tooth and all the vital tissue in the tooth dies. You may often experience a throbbing pain as the body tries to pump blood into the tooth to help this inflammatory process.
The pulp and the tissue in the tubules become necrotic and it is now when problems start. With multi rooted teeth it is possible for the pulp in one root to die but other roots stay vital as they have separate blood supplies. This causes problems for dentists trying to diagnose whether a tooth is alive or dead. Eventually the necrotic tissue in the one root will slowly kill off the vital tissue in the other roots and the tooth is then described as dead or non-vital.
This may or may not be painful and the degree of pain felt may vary from a slight twinge, to tenderness to bite on, to a full blown toothache which you cannot believe is happening to you.
The pain is dependent on your response to the irritation and whether there is bacterial infection of the pulpal material. Bacteria cause putrefaction of this pulpal material producing gas, which increases the pressure inside a tooth and pain. White blood cells stream into the pulpal area of the tooth attacking the bacteria and producing pus and more swelling and more pain. The inflammation then spreads out of the tooth via the small foramina through which the blood and lymph pass into the tooth and effects the bone holding the tooth. Swelling here causes pressure in the bone which again is painful, and will continue until it perforates into the surrounding soft tissue or the dentist intervenes.
The dentist then has the choice to take the tooth out or to do a root treatment. Today in this technological age the dentist will offer to treat the abscess, deal with the pain and save the tooth.
This is where opinions split as to what is best to do. Do we look to save individual teeth or do we look to treat the whole patient.
The standard way to root treat a tooth is to drill a small hole into the tooth to gain access to the root canal. If the tooth is not fully dead or there is a great deal of inflammation then this procedure can be uncomfortable though often the tooth and the pulp are dead so no pain is felt. Through varying techniques of instrumenting the root canal and flushing irritant fluids down the canal the dentist hopes to remove as much of the necrotic tissue and bacteria as he can. Then a sterilising liquid is sealed into the root for a few days in an attempt to further treat the infection and necrotic tissue. Antibiotics are often given to treat the infection outside the tooth.
If the pain goes, a further visit is arranged where the dentist opens up the tooth again to finish the root treatment. They should first take an X-ray with an instrument down the tooth to establish whether they are fully down the canal and have not left any area untreated. If this is satisfactory they fill up the space where the pulp was with and inert material so no future infection can take place.
Millions of this type of treatment are done every year with an apparent success rate of over 90% i.e. no pain and healing on x-ray so the dentist and the patient are happy.
This unfortunately masks a problem which can still be occurring. It is now recognised by more and more dentists that it is impossible to clean out all of the necrotic tissue or to completely sterilise a tooth. As mentioned before there are 3 miles of tubules in the smallest tooth of your mouth and no dentist claims to clean or sterilise all of these. This then leaves areas of dead tissue in the tooth to continue decomposing and being infected. White blood cells don't travel into tubules nor do antibiotics filter into these areas so the tubules become a safe haven for bacteria and possibly fungi. They survive and feed off the necrotic tissue and whatever filters into the dentine tubules. The bacteria which colonise these tubules started as normal aerobic bacteria often from the mouth, but when they are sealed into the tooth their environment changes and they pleomorphise to become anaerobic and potentially much more harmful. Their metabolism changes and their waste products become much more toxic.
Until recently there was no scientific way of measuring the toxicity of these teeth but now using photoaffinity labelling, researchers are able to test the toxins from teeth against metabolically important enzymes such as pyruvate kinase, creatinine kinase and the results are disturbing. Of 40 root treated teeth tested 25% showed no toxins. 50% showed a toxicity as great as hydrogen sulfide and most worryingly 25% were more toxic than hydrogen sulfide. Research is now looking at what these compounds could be and how we can test for them in the mouth rather than once a tooth has been extracted. Back in the 1920s a famous dental researcher Dr Weston Price also had doubts about root filled teeth. He observed that when root filled teeth were taken out using correct techniques then a variety of health problems improved, from arthritis to kidney problems and other degenerative diseases. This was done with hundreds of patients.
He went a step further by implanting these root filled teeth under the skin of rabbits and he observed that the rabbits then developed the same symptoms which the human patient had suffered from. He ground up these teeth and found that even the liquid filtered from these teeth brought about the same illnesses and diseases, often killing the rabbits within days. Filtrate from human non-root filled teeth had no harmful effects.
He wrote up most of his findings in two marvellous books listing all his research and concluded that root filled teeth were a source of toxins which did affect the health of patients. Unfortunately the books were effectively suppressed for 50 years until a retired endodontist ( a dentist who specialises in root treatment ) Dr George Meinig uncovered these books. He republished a shortened version of these books called Root Canal Cover-up. This is a very readable book giving much more detail on this issue. He explains how the toxins or even the bacteria themselves spill out of these teeth especially when the tooth flexes with function and can have an effect on whatever body function or organ is susceptible to that particular toxin. He explains how the theory of focal infection so popular at the turn of the century is now making a comeback and root treated teeth and tonsil tags are the main culprits.
Of equal interest is the relationship of root filled teeth to traditional Chinese medicine and body energies. All teeth are linked to the body via meridians and having a root filled tooth or a large amalgam filling on a meridian may block energy flow ( the chi ) along this meridian and cause a dis-ease in an organ or body function remote from the tooth. For example a front upper incisor is on the Kidney Bladder meridian and having a root treated tooth here may cause gynaecological problems, kidney problems, impotence, sterility if you follow a Chinese medicine theme. These teeth also relate to spinal segments and joints, the front incisor relates to the coccyx and posterior knee and to L II, III, S III, VI.
This energetic relationship between teeth and the rest of the body is opening whole new avenues of dental care and the chance for dentists to work with other complementary health workers
There are charts available which illustrate the relationship between teeth organs and disease.
We are also seeing problems where root treated teeth have been removed there is poor healing in these areas. Although the tooth has gone it is still painful in these areas and this area may still energetically interfere with the associated meridian. Some dentists are trained to look for these areas on X-rays and when these areas are treated they can also bring considerable improvements in patients health.
As a dentist I now have a problem of whether to save a tooth, or potentially harm a persons health on several levels. Of equal concern is what to do with teeth which are already root treated!
Extraction of these teeth is seen as the only option by some dentists, others prefer to remove the old root filling, if that is possible and to use medicines such as Tea tree oil or Propolys to sterilise the teeth. This is a compromise, done as an in between option between extraction and doing nothing. Each case should be assessed on the ease of retreating and the health of the patient. Many root filling materials contain mercury or cadmium, not materials a dentist concerned with biocompatibility would use. There are instances now where we do still root treat or retreat teeth and change the materials we use, one material, calcium oxide does seem to be promising.
No one can say for certain if a particular root treated tooth is causing you a specific health problem though there are several ways of confirming suspicions. Kinesiology is one therapy where you can localise a problem tooth to see whether it affects overall body strength. If you then hold a homoeopathic remedy for necrotic pulp and the strength returns then there is a good chance that this tooth is affecting health. The use of Vega machine and more sophisticated systems such as the Accupro and the Listen system can on an energetic level determine if individual teeth are stressing that particular person and which tissue or area is being affected.
It is possible to send an extracted root filled tooth to the USA to see whether it did contain toxins though this does not prove a definitive link to the diseases a person may have had.
As this issue is more thoroughly investigated I think that more complementary health practitioners will investigate their patients' dental history and work with dentists. The removal of mercury amalgams and root treated teeth can significantly help recovery to wellness.
Further Information
For a list of dentists who are aware of these matters please contact
Dr John Anderson, British Academy of Biological Dentists, Penclawdd Dental Practice, 4 West End, Penclawdd, Swansea.
Also look up Gerson Therapy and the relationship of root filled teeth and cancer. Please see also June Butlin's column, on the following page, regarding the Gerson Therapy.
For further information about testing teeth for toxins and other testing contact Dr John Roberts.
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Thank you so much GIGI!!! Exactly the info I was looking for. I may have to e-mail you in a few days to determine who this doc H is in Reno... I dont have a clue how else to find him! Thanks for sharing GIGI, I cant say(write) how much it means to ME!!! I remain --just don-- with a sore head.
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www.iabdm.org has a list of Biological dentists
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DENTAL AMALGAM MERCURY SYNDROME ............................www.amalgam.org DAMS, Inc.; P.O. Box 7249 . Minneapolis, MN 55407-0249 . For Immediate Release: local contact: see page 3
Chronic Health Conditions Related to Dental Health and Dental Procedures
Medical studies and clinical results have found that many chronic, degenerative, health conditions are dental related(there are also other causes and effects are cumulative and synergistic). The main causes include mercury(from amalgam fillings) and infections from root-canaled teeth(most are infected) and from cavitations(chronically infected tooth extractions sites or root-canal sites), as well as gingivitis and periodontitis (infected gums). Oral infections have been found to be factors in cardiovascular disease, heart conditions, stroke, arthritis, etc. All of these are common causes of chronic conditions (documentation below), and most with conditions like CFS, Fibromyalgia, etc. recover when they deal with which ever of these is affecting them. The majority(over 50%) of wisdom tooth extraction sites have cavitations- which can be extremely toxic systemically and cause disabling conditions like cancer, CFS, MS, ALS, Parkinson's, Rheumatoid Arthritis, cardiovascular disease, etc.. The majority of root canaled teeth likewise accumulate bacteria and become toxic over time, causing the same kinds of conditions. Most with several amalgam dental fillings or metal crowns over amalgam get mercury exposure above the government health guidelines and are affected over time, which commonly causes or is a major factor in such conditions. Some are more susceptible than others and are more seriously affected or sooner affected, but all who have them are affected to some measurable degree by these over time. Tests are now available for measuring exposure and effects such as immune reactivity, metabolic effects, enzymatic blockages, improperly functioning detox pathways, etc. that are factors in the conditions.
In surgical clinical trials of FDA and medical school, approximately 80% of wisdom tooth extraction sites were found to have cavitations(the population tested may not be exactly the same as the general population but was a large population). Likewise FDA clinical trials by the Cavitat found similar numbers, with follow-up surgical treatment. Most such sites have cavitations- which can cause serious health effects not commonly diagnosed as to the real cause. The sites are locally relatively pain-free in many cases, but there are major systemic effects from bacterial toxins and infection. They can also cause major pain(NICO)
Bioassay tests at the dental labs of Dr. Haley(www.altcorp.com) and Dr. Bouquet find similar high toxicity and effects in root canaled teeth, which also are commonly found to have cavitations by methods above. Years of research by Dr. Westin Price(dental association researcher) and prominent doctors documented the same thing. Thousands of people who have had cavitation surgery or proper extraction of root canaled teeth have recovered from disabling chronic conditions such as the above.
DAMS, a national patients support organization with coordinators in most states, works with thousands of disabled and chronically ill people each year and have compiled many thousands of cases of recovery from over 30 major chronic conditions after proper diagnosis and treatment for mercury toxicity, root canal toxicity, or cavitation toxicity.
Over 50,000 clinical cases of recovery are documented in the first web site paper, and we and the other sources have many hundreds of cases of documented recoveries from disabling conditions after dealing with root canaled teeth and cavitations. Any of the several oral surgeons we interact with dealing with cavitations or root canaled teeth have had large numbers of cases of recovery from chronic or disabling conditions after treatment. Bob Jones, who invented the cavitat, recovered from ALS after cavitation surgery, and we know of many other cases of recovery from such conditions in people DAMS has worked with.
This is all well documented in the medical and dental literature- thousands of peer reviewed studies and tens of thousands of clinical cases document the case. For those interested in documentation see:
Thomas E. Levy, MD, FACC, and Hal A. Huggins, DDS, MS; "Routine Dental Extractions Routinely Produce Cavitations", Journal of Advancement in Medicine, Volume 9, Number 4, Winter 1996, www.holisticmed.com/dental/cavitation1.html
These hidden areas can be dangerous breeding grounds for bacteria. But, with laser disinfection, calcified dentin tubules, cavitational microsurgery, and restoring the bone's lymphatic and circulatory health they can sometimes be resolved without more drastic extraction or surgery.
Dental Clinic Website D.L. Cook, Suring Wisconsin www.dentistryhealth.com/ Dentistry has far reaching health effects on most people. I have repeatedly seen this experience in symptoms of my patients; with root canals, cavitations, toxins from gingival cervicular fluid, metal and metal oxide in composites, and dental restorations.
MELISA Medical Lab(www.melisa.org) (Immune/autoimmune effects of amalgam)
De Nardin E. The role of inflammatory and immunological mediators in periodontitis and cardiovascular disease. Ann Periodontol 2001 Dec;6(1):30-40
van Winkelhoff AJ, Winkel EG, Vandenbroucke-Grauls CM.; Periodontitis: a hidden chronic
infection; Ned Tijdschr Geneeskd 2001 Mar 24;145(12):557-63
Krejci CB, Bissada NF. Women's health issues and their relationship to periodontitis. J Am Dent Assoc 2002 Mar;133(3):323-9
Wu T, Trevisan M, Genco RJ, Dorn JP, Falkner KL, Sempos CT. Periodontal disease and risk of cerebrovascular disease: the first national health and nutrition examination survey and its follow-up study. Arch Intern Med 2000 Oct 9;160(18):2749-55
Johann Lechner, "Dental Materials and Psychoneuroimmunology Conference". Danderyd Hospital, 14-16 August, 1998;
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Gigi's reference www.melisa.org is a good one. Apart from root canals, cavitations it makes the point that removal of all metals is proven to help CFS etc. Go to article section.
For 50$ they do a blood test diagnosing a metals problem. Most of us have got metals etc in our mouths!
This extract talks about CFS
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome & metal allergy
Metal particles enter the body every day, through the skin and through breathing. For most people, this poses no problem but for those who are hypersensitive, it can set off an immunological chain reaction. For most, this is so mild as to be unnoticeable. For others, it can lead to conditions as serious as Multiple Sclerosis. This page looks at how metal allergy can trigger the condition known as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
The patient comes in contact with a metal. This everyday occurrence can happen from jewellery rubbing against the skin or from contact with mercury, which is still used in amalgam dental fillings. Microscopic particles of the metal are released into the bloodstream. This happens with both amalgam in the mouth and metal jewellery and is, in itself, not dangerous. These metal particles become ions, and look for a suitable substance in the body to bind to. They normally choose protein, which exists everywhere in the body. When the metal binds, it slightly changes the protein structure. What was once a simple body protein is now a "protein-plus-metal" compound - even though the metal is microscopic. All of the above is a daily occurrence in everyone - whether hypersensitive or not. In a hypersensitive person, the immune system no longer accepts the altered body protein and sees it instead as a foreign "invader". The immune system goes into "attack mode" as the white blood cells start to multiply. They send alert signals to the brain, to let it know an invader has been detected. This is done using cytokines - cells which carry messages to other tissues. The cytokines reach the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal (or "HPA") axis. This is the system which alerts the brain to any attack, and tells it that the body needs to be put on "defense mode" to fight an invader. When someone catches an infection, for example, it is the HPA axis which informs the brain that the body needs to rest while the infection is attacked. It also detects situations where adrenalin may have to be released so the body can either fight or run. But in the case of metal-induced CFS, there is no "invader" - just the body's own cells which look different. This is a dangerous and delicate situation. If antibodies are produced to attack the altered protein structure, it will result in autoimmunity - the stepping stone to autoimmune diseases.
The brain is now in a "chronic" (i.e., ongoing) stress situation. The HPA axis is up-regulated and has instructed the body to rest as the immune system attacks the invader. This "attack" will keep going as long as a fresh supply of metal particles is entering the blood stream through the dental metal fillings. A state of chronic fatigue is induced when the HPA axis eventually becomes tired and the brain runs out of cortisone, a substance which calms and steers the body through a period of infection. As the HPA axis is quite resilient, and it can take months to be exhausted. So the allergic reaction to the metal has induced symptoms associated with CFS: exhaustion, difficulty to concentrate, dizziness, muscle pain, double vision etc. How the MELISA� test can be used to tackle CFS
A CFS patient gives a blood sample. It is tested against a range of 10 to 20 metals and the reaction is monitored. In the example we have used above, the problem is dental amalgam. So the blood will react to inorganic mercury - which makes just less than 50% of amalgam. The MELISA� diagnosis is returned to the patient: say "strongly positive" to inorganic mercury. The patient can then have amalgam fillings replaced with another non-metallic material. The decision of replacement should be taken together with a dentist that specialises in metal-free dentistry. The supply of mercury particles to the blood, the source of the original problem, is suddenly discontinued. The body's cleansing system is left to do its work, and most (but not all) of the metal can be flushed out of the system with the help of vitamins. The immune system ceases to be in attack mode. The message is sent to the HPA axis, which gradually returns to its normal, healthy state. The recovery of the patient depends many factors and may vary from immediate recovery to slow improvement over several years Notes: a) Sometimes, people can recover from CFS by replacing their amalgam fillings even if they test negative to metal allergy. This can be because the microscopic particles bind to and block the mitochondria, the energy-producing factories, in the muscle. b) The above chain reaction can be triggered by other seemingly innocent metals, like the gold or nickel in jewellery.
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Pulling the thread up...
I just found that people are using Flexite here... How to wash these flexible partials, with a tooth brush?
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Just Don, send me a message. I know of someone in Colorado who is a dentist and excellent surgeon. Dr. H is a personal friend of his. He is very holistic.
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Tickalert, this thread is old. I just pulled it to the front, so I don't think JustDon is still looking for a dentist!
Did you also operate your cavitations?
Are you also using partials?
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I had all root canal teeth pulled and cavitations done. I have a partial that I don't wear much. It was a temp while the gums healed.
I don't know what it is made of, only that they tested me for many, many compatible materials so they could select the best thing for me.
It was a bit more emotional that I wold have imagined (losing teeth) but it was worth it.
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Exactly the info I was looking for. I may have to e-mail you in a few days to determine who this doc H is in Reno... I dont have a clue how else to find him!
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