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So I have been at this for about six weeks. Read all the newbie links, all of your posts and as many books on the subject as my dumb head could manage.
Here is my main diet:
8am- 24 oz water, half cup coffee with milk, organic hot oat bran w/ a little milk / raisins (take my abx and pain killer with this)
24oz water
10am- two eggs and half slice of organic whole grain toast with butter -two acidophillus
48 oz water
noon- green salad with grilled chicken or fish (a tablespoon oil/vinegar).
24oz water
3pm - 1 cup plain yog w/ 2 tbsps. sugar free applesauce - two acidophilus 24oz water
dinner - meat, veggies (green beans/spinach salad) no starch - abx 24oz water
9pm - half cup yogurt w/1 acidophilus take neurontin now and zoloft and foot pads...
will also snack on handful of almonds or cheese throught the day...
So this is what I eat most days. I don't take viatmins since my llmd says that the ketes love em and she doesn't want me to feed them.-also they make me nauseated.
I would love to hear others ideas on a well rounded diet. It gets so boring and I miss my sweets ----------especially chocolates on Valentines DAy!!!!
Anyone else have a bit of coffee during treatment?
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You're a lot more disciplined than I am, although I don't drink coffee much anymore, and when I do, it's decaf.
I'd be much happier to give up coffee than chocolate, however. I'm afraid that's where I draw the line....diet or no diet.
However, it's not all bad. You do know that Dove Dark chocolate has been proven to have medically beneficial effects, don't you? If not, check out the following link:
So this is my excuse to allow myself 1.3oz of Dove Dark Chocolate/day, if I want. Enjoy! Posts: 449 | From Pasadena, CA, usa | Registered: Aug 2005
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I drink a cup of coco 2heaping tsp of sugar free nestles coco powder I cup milk One tsp of xylitol & some stevia. Some extra virgin coconut oil can be good too. makes it taste like eating a mounds bar
I have read choclate to be good for the immune system. And that's what I keep telling myself.
Do a search of xylitol; it is good for killing bacteria but ,more than 2 tsp can give some people the runs. Hasn't happened to me yet.
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My acupuncturist has encouraged me to eat only warm foods -- no cold salad -- until my body is more healed.
Ever since I started adhering to that, I've felt stronger and been less chilled.
Andie
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That's VERY interesting Andie--I dont like salad when I am this sick--I HATE IT! But other times in my life I LOVE it--I have a FIELD of greens growing in my back yard and mostly the snails are eating it--coz I am not in the mood for salad. Only eating the cooking greens.
I drink coffee. Regular WITH soy milk and GASP-- HONEY!
Been doing it for 10 yrs. Cant stop now.
Got to NO symptoms 4 years ago while SMOKING cigs AND pot and drinking coffee and occassional alcohol too.
Relapsed when I was EXCERCISING and not drinking or smoking or hardly ANYTHING.
I am always a backwards gal. ALWAYS.
Now just the coffee and occassional alcohol. A girl has GOT to live!
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About six weeks ago the severity of my candida prompted me to cut out even whole grains (my former grain of choice being quinoa.) I noticed great improvement, especially in the first week. The candida has since bounced back a bit, but I'm still sticking it out-- I can't give the yeast any extra help. I've actually felt FULL a few times since strengthening my rules! What a revelation!
Breakfast - I almost always have just eggs for breakfast. I used to make a whole plate full of potatoes to go with the eggs, but the yeast must've devoured the potatoes, because I'd feel totally empty just minutes afterwards. Now I just have the eggs, and it's like the same amount of food!
My staple meals include: *chicken with stir-fried vegetables, like broccoli or green beans *cauliflower/zucchini/green pea curry *mediterranean lentil salad *other cold yet hearty salads, featuring chopped up veggies and dressings of olive oil and lemon juice
I tend to use a lot of either garlic and ginger in these recipes.
Favorite snacks: *a wok full of sauteed spinach with garlic and cayenne *almond butter on celery sticks
I used to do plain acidophilus yogurt, but I think the candida liked the lactose too much. But I still take 6-8 high potency acidophilus capsules, of course.
I found a lot of good recipes in The Candida Albicans Yeast Free Cookbook by Pat Connolly. That book inspired me to try beef tongue, with which I've fallen in love. But I suppose I shouldn't get carried away with red meat as it's known to have inflammatory effects.
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I know from previous experience (and current experience, too) that I feel best on a very, very low carb diet (think Atkins) -- I seem to be pretty insulin sensitive, and this really stops the shakes and tremors and panicky feelings. Also, I can eat a lot less and be satisfied.
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I really think the key to a good diet is finding out what works best FOR YOU....your diet sounds pretty good.
We all know what to avoid but sometimes you just need to be a tiny bit bad and for me it has to be .....COFFEE!!!! I love it.
Only one (big) cup a day though and it is the real organic ground stuff but I can not start the day without it, it's the only treat I ever have and I really need it, then for the rest of the day it's back to water and also green tea, which is lovely.
Keep drinking your coffee, you need a little treat to get you through this.
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Tincup once gave me excellent advice which is: eat what your body craves. For me at this point it is tons of big stews with huge amounts of carrots, spinach (yes spinach), a potato, cabbage, green beans and other vegetables (onions, tons of garlic, celery and other stuff.
I cook a chicken with all of these and let it simmer. I guess I crave potassium because the carrots and root vegetables are what I want the most, although the carrots have sugar. I am not an ABX just rife, so I can get away with some sugar very sparingly.
When I shop I drool over the vegetables way more than I ever did over the ice cream and cookies (way back when) so I figure I must need those vitamins. Cold salads do not appeal to me at this point either. I also drink coffee in the morning, then tea for the rest of the day. Lymelady
PS When I was on meds I craved yogurt and ate gallons of organic with no sugar. Without meds I don't crave it anymore.
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Hb:
I ate a no-carb, raw diet to rid my body of systemic candida. It worked. But, I was weak and dropped tons of weight. My body could not retain the nutrients.
I have since switched to a more macrobiotic approach, eating plenty of whole grains and cooked veggies. I eat almost no dairy. It was actually making things worse (mucous build-up). I crave protein because I work out 5 days a week. But, I try to get most of it from beans, tofu and fish. I will ocassionaly have an egg or a piece of chicken. The problem with animal protein is that it takes so long to digest (like 2 weeks) that it has a tendency to ferment (rot) in your gut and will make a lovely feeding ground for yeast.
As for coffee & chocolate, well, I admit that I have a cup of mostly decaf in the AM. I went without for over a year but started to crave it again. Going into Starbucks and ordering green tea just doesn't cut it for me. The smell of ceffee turns me on. :-) I will eat a tiny piece of dark chocolate when my energy level is low. I don't crave any sweets but, a little nibble feels like a real treat every once in a while.
Don't be afraid of unrefined carbs. They are loaded with vitamins and minerals and do not turn to sugar like the refined carbs.
I agree with those who said to eat what your body craves. But, use discretion. My body really does crave carbs - just eat the right ones. I just had a warm bowl of oatmeal with cranberries and cinnamon - yum.
Yes, your diet DOES make a HUGE difference.
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Two cups of french-press coffee with cream. Go ahead. Shoot me down. Can't get started without it.
Breakfast: A truly disgusting notion at 5:30 a.m. Check back in a few hours.
MUCH later: A protein bar (at work at my desk) a bowl of cereal (if at home)
Lunch: salad with grilled chicken or leftovers from dinner; sometimes Thai food (if boss is buying).
dinner: some kinda seafood, like grilled salmon, tilapia, sole, with a sauteed vegetable (broccoli, snow peas, etc.
'Bout a quarter glass of wine if I feel OK and my head doesn't hurt.
Theralac for dessert.
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For what it's worth I gave up coffee 3 years ago and just drink tea in am. Am NOt poo pooing you coffee drinkers.
But now when I get const. once in a while I'll drink a cup of coffee.
First it makes me jittery and then it makes me way tired and sluggish. I don't know if it's because I gave up coffee and my system isn't used to it or not.
Weird.
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This is the philosophy I believe is best for our immune systems.
"Eat what your ancestors ate, not more than 50 miles from their home".. which cuts out all industrialized foods and consumption of veggies made staples with food industrialization (interesting that some beans and veggies have natural pesticides in their make-up).. it also focuses on the idea of eating mainly what our bodies were engineered to eat, depending on your ancestral roots.
I do this, but also combination with a focus on food combining to stay alkaline, combinations that are highly digestable. (meat + veggie - no dairy or wheat with this, or dairy plus fruit - no meat or grain with that .. or grain plus fruit, and so on..) I believe it is important to make sure food moves out quickly and does not ferment in the intestines, which causes many problems!
Here's the link to info on the Paleolithic diet, also known as 'Hunter - Gatherer diet' focused on meats, veggies, root veggies ect..
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That's way too much water! We're supposed to drink 1/2 our body weight in oz of water. So, along those lines, you would have to weigh 288 lbs to need that much water.
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I have gradually worked my way to a fairly healthy diet.
Breakfast: an organic vegetable/fruit smoothie - every morning.
Lunch - sushi or a salad with chicken
Dinner - a large bowl of vegetable soup, or another smoothie.
I do let myself have an "anything I want" breakfast on the weekend - within reason - and about two other meals where I am more lenient with myself.
I have a liquid mineral formula that I live by - Genestra Multi Cal Mag Liquid - yum, as well as about 15 other supplements. Generally speaking I strive for no grains, no dairy and no sugar, and low starch vegetables. I also use a digestive enzyme - vegetable-based - to aid my digestion. I let myself have a black tea with milk as a treat and maybe a cookie or two.
I strongly, strongly recommend reading the book "Breaking the Vicious Cycle." It is a diet that aims to starve gut bacteria of their primary food source - sugars.
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lymelady-- i agree with the eat what your body craves except ONE thing: anything sugar!
When you crave sugar or sweets it is the yeast talking and NOT your body.
I swear by the other cravings after having lived in Africa and not being able to eat a varied diet...the crew would crave the same types of foods all together. We knew our bodies were starving for certain nutrients.
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Hey trails
I totally believe in the body crave thinking. When I am nauseated I carve artichokes. When I am tired I crave beets. This summer I craved blue berry's and ate a bowl every morning and felt good for it.
I think our body's really do talk to us.
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I am learning so much here. First, lymetoo...I only weigth 115...so I guess I am going way overboard on the water...I'm alittle ocd.
Glad to see I am not alone with the coffee. Like some, it is my only treat, we have so few.
I can't wait to check out all the links, alkaline, paleon diet etc...
I'm sad to say the food is no longer something I crave or even look forward to as I am constantly nauseated from the abx. I eat to be less nauseated and stay alive.
Would like to know if anyone takes extra fiber like fibercon or metamucil? If you eat meat and don't want rotting can this move things along?
For those eating raw diet...is this like raw veggies, nuts and sushi?
Thanks all for taking time to give me a reality check on your diets...it helps to know what you're up to out there...
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Great thread. I bandied myself as a hobby chef specialising in Indian/Mediteranean and gas cooking for the last 25 yrs. I gave up my teeny spresso per dr B guidlines, what's up people?? If I see one symptom complainer who posted they drink coffee that's it.
Everday I have a "Popeye" smoothie in a Vita-Mix blender
1ea grapefruit w white stuff handfull raw spinach leaves celery 2ea ground flaxseed 1tbsp psyllium 1tbsp L-Lystein powder proline digestive enzymes
I could replace the above with a single shot of French roast, naw. I wanna heal.
quai
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It was you, Dana, who posted the great little recipe for artichoke hearts snacks -- sauteed in olive oil then topped with a bit of parmesan cheese. I posted that recipe on another thread and wanted to credit the person who came up with it.
Glad to know I can give you the thumbs-up. It's very filling, fulfilling and tasty. A great snack!
My diet has been limited, because of my olfactory sensitivity. It's very hard for me to be around fish (used to grill or bake it several times a week). Now, the smell of it is too much.
I eat whole grains, chicken or turkey (no red meat), sauteed greens, occasional root vegetables. When I crave pasta, I try to be creative with spaghetti squash and a marinara sauce. To me the whole grain pastas on the market are too heavy.
Going out to dinner has become an international festival -- Vietnamese, Thai, Malaysian, Indian, Chinese, Mexican. Usually vegetarian in those restaurants.
I eat a LOT of eggs.
If I'm craving cheese, I eat goat cheeses -- either soft goat cheese or a goat gouda.
No alcohol or coffee. No sugar-free drinks. I often drink chai (using the tea bags, not the prepared stuff, which is loaded with sugar).
My big indulgence is dark chocolate. In fact, I think I'll go have a little piece right now; all this food talk is making me hungry!
Andie
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I knew somebody would throw the flag on the coffee
But seriously, can anyone claim less symptoms without it? I ask this because I am such a headachy person and I always thought a little coffee might help.
Also, a confession. I had a couple forkfuls of cake today at lunch. - Hubby bday. I will let you know if I notice anything...(although I felt like &%$# before the cake so can only go up from there today.)
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