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D.J. LYME
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I just noticed like five little circular rashes by my groin, yesterday.

four little ones about a half inch and one bigger one in my pubic area.

my wife thinks it is ringworm, i have never heard of such a thing.

of course they have to be circular and freak me out, any ideas about this, or ideas on what ringworm is exactly?

they are roundish with a clearer center, i just started at a gym a couple of weeks ago and i was told i could get it from the locker room.
what should i do??????????????
DO you think it is lyme related?

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Linda LD
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My sister was dating the cutest football player ever in high school.

He came over one day and my mom asked my sister right in front of him, "Did you put your ringworm medicine on?"

Gawd--that was awful!!!

Ringworm is some kind of fungus. She use to get it all the time. I have heard you can get it from cats--the truth is she had undiagnosed Ld and thyroid issues--I think her immune system was in the trash already at 16.

I'm pretty sure youhave to get medicine from a doctor to get rid of it.

But it is just a fungus, like yeast or something--not really a worm. And is probably a sign of your poor immune system.

I just hope your wife doesn't "out you" in front of company!

God bless,
Linda

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minimonkey
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If it actually *is* ringworm, then it is a fungal infection -- pets can transmit it, and I'm sure locker rooms can too. Over the counter "tinactin" or a similar antifungal will clear it up, if it is ringworm. But, EM rashes can look a lot like ringworm -- so I don't know what to tell you.

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Good info here:
http://www.dhpe.org/infect/ringworm.html

And here: Click on pictures to see closer version
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001439.htm

Hope you get it cleared up soon.
Ann - OH

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I had what I thought was ringworm twice before being diagnosed with lyme. Now i wonder if that is what I really had. While under lyme treatment I developed three circular rash spots on my chest that looked like ringworm. I showed them to my LLMD and he thought that it was a lyme rash for sure. Shortly thereafter 16 more ovals appeared all up and down my spine. They lasted for nerly a month. I felt particularly horrible during the time. A year later three ringworm like circles appeared on my lower adbdomen....making me pretty sure by the 5th episode and second while under treatment that my llmd is right that this is a lyme rash not ringworm.

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DeniseS
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I got a round rash on my wrist which one of my LLMDs diagnosed as ringworm. However, by a circuitous route, I ended up seeing an immunologist who specializes in allergies. He says it (and the non-circular rashes around my eyes and on my hand) is an allergic reaction to molds.

I am now using Nizoral nasal spray (specially formalated by his office) and avoiding a list of mold-containing foods (all prepared tomato products, leftovers more than 24 hrs old, cheese, miso, tempeh, soy sauce, ground beef that's not freshly ground, and some more I can't remember) and the rash is going away.

This doc (the mold expert) says he has never seen someone so allergic to all molds. (I lived in a really damp place for 2-1/2 years.) I've developed food allergies, too. That's a result of leaky gut - certainly not helped, and possibly caused, by all the abx.

I'm also getting EPD (enzyme potentiated desensitization) shots to retrain my immune system not to be so sensitive. EPS is pretty controversial in the US but is used in Europe. This doc trained with the orginator and the protocol is very simple compared to the EPD info I've read about on the internet.

For what it's worth.

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Denise, would you mind posting the link to the website describing your treatment to desensitize.

Thank you.

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DeniseS
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After perusing the links on ringworm, I see that ringworm and fungal overgrowth are not mutually exclusive.
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I would like to say 'thanks' for bringing up this topic.

The minute I heard I probably had Lyme Disease and about the bull's eye rash, my heart sank. I thought back to 1997 when I was working at a homeless shelter in the city I was diagnosed w/ Ringworm. But it would not go away and grew.

This was the tick bite! But now more than one person had the same experience. As well as the other round rashs.

It is true validation. Validation means a lot when you have been told for nine years you are lazy, unmotivated, mentallly ill & a drug addict. Oh, the list goes on....But great to know finally it was the tick and it is for real. As we all know...

So, thanks again.

Lakota Queen

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Gigi,

Unfortunately, my doc doesn't have a website - he's pretty old school. Other sites I've seen on EPD are much, much more complicated than what my doc does - he trained with the originator of EPD and that protocol is quite simple.

The doc prescribed digestive enzymes either Creon by prescription of DuoZyme by Karuna. It critical that it be one of these because the enzymes are most similar to human enzymes and thus the proteins are cleaved in the right spots such the the amino acid chains are those the body can use to make its own proteins.

He did IgG and IgE blood tests for food and environmental allergies in his own lab. He chose EPD shots that match the substances to which I'm allergic. I get the shots every two months. After 8 months he'll be able to tell whether the tx will ultimately work for me. If it looks good, I'll continue to have shots every 2 months for 2 years total.

He also gave me Nizoral nose spray because I was so allergic to molds and had other inhalant allergies.

For some he prescribes Sporonox but I think I was on an incompatible med at the time. I've yet to revist this with him.

I'm now 6 months into tx and my food allergies are gone! My LLMD added a 5-day rotation diet to the picture. I did that for 3 months - what a ride that was. Ultimately I don't know whether it was the EPD or the rotation diet that got rid of the allergies - probably both.

My apologies if I've duplicated some info from my previous post. I didn't re-read it.

Best,
Denise

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When I was pregnant with my first child (and I had LD way back then) I was told I had ringworm. I really couldn't figure out how I would have gotten it. Last year I saw a photo of a ER rash and I knew immediately what I had been told was ringworm was actually Lyme.

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There is a Bart rash that looks like ringworm. Dr Fried Talks about it at the Philadelphia conference. It's called "Granuloma Annulaire - ringworm". I have some of these myself and I know that it is from Bart and not ringworm. I also have some solid red flat lesions that are from Bart. I can see them fade with the right Tx.
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