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my husband is an avid hunter and fisherman, constantly out hunting and gone.

we have a freezer of exotic meats, antelope, muledeer, buffalo, etc.

i use it in all kinds of dishes and barbeque.

but now i'm wondering if we should be eating this at all?

help.........

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are you worried about the meat's nutrient profile/suitability for your digestion, or are your concerns more about the integrity of wild meat?

all of that meat sounds dark and fatty. if you have inflammation problems or issues with acidity, you should eat it sparingly. but on the other hand all that protein and animal fat can be really good for the brain. it also depends on what else you're eating... i'd say it'd probably be ok, just make a lot of greens or other fresh veggies to go along with it.

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actually i was concerned about these animals having lyme and that little bugger staying in the meat and then being ingested by humans.

i cook all meat thoroughly but i think i read somewhere that cooking does not kill the ketes and they can still be transferred.

i know it's much leaner than beef and supposed to be healthier but right now with lyme being so prevalent, i'm wondering if you can catch lyme by eating an animal who has lyme.

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It's ok. Cooking kills the ketes.

freezing does not.

I would think that butchering is more risky *if* you have an open cut on your hand. But... if so, just wear gloves.

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As my wife and I were enjoying juicy steaks this evening at a local restaurant, it occurred to me that I should look at some of that uncooked beef juice with the darkfield the next time we open a package at home.

Might we be intently aware of the danger of ticks, yet be scarfing down barely cooked rare beef that is literally squirming with keets?

Most people cook wild meat pretty well, but we have gotten in the habit of eating our beef very rare, barely even warm in the center.

Hmmm...

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You guys are making me hungry for venison steaks!
I just had some Caribou, its so yummy!
:-) Cook it well, dont make jerky, and feast! [hi]

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I realize this is a bit off topic, but earlier today we were in Whole Foods (mostly organic foods and vitamins, for those who aren't familiar)

Anyway, in the yogurt section, I saw three different varieties of buffalo yogurt.

Something new every day!

Andie

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wow James. I hope you post pics [Smile]


I used to eat steak Tar Tar occasionally...


Hmmm.. A lot of the "buffalo" being sold now is actually "beeffalo", a hybrid cross between cattle and buffalo. A friend who'd eaten quite a bit of buffalo says some of the beeffalo tastes much more like beef. There's a ranch of beeffalo about 60 miles from where I live. Those ones look like smaller buffalo.

I dunno... but I can't imagine milking a 100% buffalo... LOL. Might win a "darwin award".

wow. carabou! what's it taste like?

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i'd avoid the dairy parts-- milk, cheese, and whatever, but only if raw, or insufficiently cooked; that goes for goat milk, and other animal milk, and milk products, as well.
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hey PQ,

is homogenization good enough for ketes? I think it was originally started to kill tuberculosis germs. ??

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I love buffalo meat if its cooked right. I also like antelope. Is this type of meat safe to eat as well?

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Wow, I was just staring at the venison in our freezer...husband and son are bambi killers too...

I am wondering, I read that the cyst forms can withstand temps of 1000 degrees? My stove doesn't get that hot...

What do you think?

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I don't know where that 1000 degree stuff came from. Maybe somebody is confusing Bb with the claims made about the 'prions' that are supposedly the cause of Mad Cow Disease.... junk science in my opinion, in the same class as "swamp gas" to explain UFO sightings.

Cook your meat and you should be fine.

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I just ordered lots of buffalo, wild boar meats and organs. I plan to feed my dog raw diet with these organic meats.

Raw diet is huge in dogs right now. Anyone knows if any dog gets LD from raw diet??? Conventional wisdom is freezing kills all bacterias.

When I do buffalo burgers, I always like it medium rare. Are you saying that I can get LD from that? Millions of Americans eat medium to rare beef products, are you saying everyone is at risk of getting LD?

In terms of quality of meats, these meats are the best there are. And the lowest in fat! My only issue is digestion. These days I can't seem to digest even chicken. Eating fish mostly. Anyone else is having the same problem? Heavy duty meats will have to be in small quantities, sparingly. Think most of my order will go to my dog.

Regards.

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I doubt it's any more risky than any other meat/animal. They're all going to have been bitten by ticks at some point probably.
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This topic fascinates me and I wish that there was a way that food could be tested for this stuff.

I still drink milk now and then. But I am freaked out about Bb and other lovely buggies potentially hiding in it.

Our dog was extremely ill too. Testing was all negative for tick borne illness. Although she responded best to doxy for treatment.

Anyway, she also developed severe food allergies.

She is now on Venison Dog food and is doing so much better. I cringed as I served it up for her the first time but she is doing so much better.

Wild meats in theory are probably so much better for us in a lot of ways...variety is good for the human diet.

Wild meats are not being infused with antibiotics...so then it makes me wonder what could these animals be carrying...

It all just drives me crazy thinking about it. I love to eat different meats and seafood but lately have been thinking about becoming vegan [Wink]

James please do take a sample of the juice next time you are out and throw it under your dark field microscope...

Still don't have my own microscope....God forbid the day I do...I will carry slides in my purse and test all my food [Wink]

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Please don't get all paranoid about your food just because I mentioned it would be interesting to look at some raw beef.

The only reason I mentioned beef is because of the habit some of us have of eating it very rare.

In the case of chicken, pork, and wild meats we already cook them pretty well because of the other diseases we can get if we do not.

If you are concerned just cook it at least to medium before you eat it... like you would do with pork or chicken.

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The 1000 degree thing isn't true for lyme.

Yep, it probley came from a confusion with CWD and mad cow. There is a theory that CWD and mad cow are not destroyed by heat. I agree with James- sounds like junk science.

I looked up the 1000 degree (or whatever degree) thing for CWD a while ago and all I found was a report from 2 researchers in Texas who autoclaved (pressure cooked) the crap out of some "infectious" prions then found "infectious" prions in what they'd autoclaved. The culture was alive or something. I think they just got contamination... It's VERY easy to get contamination.

I've sown orchids in sterile conditions and have been very anal about it and STILL get contamination all the time. It's common. This is one of the reasons why they usually require repeat studies on anything. I don't think that's been done with CWD.

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Buffalo and Wild Boar products are from MN, northern big plains where wild buffalos roam. I think knowing the source of meats is important. That's why I buy from farms rather than stores. Shipping is $$$ but greater safty.

I'd imagine raw meat is safe for human as well as pets as that's not a Lyme Area. Too cold and dry for ticks. Never heard of LD out of Minnesota.

Anyone knows different, let me know!

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MN is one of the top ten states reporting LD.

See: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss4903a1.htm

I probably was infected as a child just outside of Minneapolis in the 1970s. Not sure what that means for Buffalo grown here, though.

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