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GiGi
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that can be very beneficial.

Mucuna Powder

Used since ancient days in India. It is a powerful antimicrobial and to restore depleted neurotransmitter levels in the chronic Lyme patient. 1-6 tsp/day. It replaces the neurotransmitters in the same proportion as Lyme damages them. (dopamine, serotonin, etc.)

Garlic Tincture

for topical use and treament of oral mucosa/periodontal disease

Rechtsregulat

Potent enzyme-rich fermented drink from Germany that has been shown to break up abnormal proteins in blood and matrix. Fibrinolytic. Can also be sprayed on skin for healing of psoriasis and other illnesses.

SForsgren posted the 100 page booklet describing it. Rechtsregulat is a permanent in our house.
It is superb for many applications.

OXO

Plant root deried compound that was used as Malaria treatment in the past. Very effective for Babesia.

Matrix Microbes

83 beneficial bacteria and fungi. Great for short term use as bowel probiotic. Cleans open wounds in a few days (use in ulcerating breast cancer, open pulp during dental intervention, bed sores). Used to spray the home with dilution to change microbial environment. Great for flu prevention. Use for skin ailments, including hair loss.

Take care.

(These are all things Dr. K. discussed during a recent Lyme seminar attended by many physicians)

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What is it, Gigi?????
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[ 15. March 2006, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: Kentucky Girl ]

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GiGi
The suspensce is killing me. [Big Grin]

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Well, my good loving husband called me to tell that he had fixed my lunch - I got so excited - hit the wrong key and off went the half finished
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Now I am going to lunch on white daikon salad and smoked fish!!!!!!!!!!!!! with some of my home-baked bread.

Take care.

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Thanks Gigi! [Big Grin]
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OXO??

That's a new one - never heard of that. Where would one get that?

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All of them are available at www.biopureus.com. Click on Products.

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Maybe I'm just not seeing it or something, but I can't find Oxo in the products listed.
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We bought some chlorella yesterday, and I saw it on their website then. Call them - maybe they ran out or someone dropped it off the list inadvertently.

Take care.

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The stuff must be really good, eh, GiGi? But HOW does the average person get the money to stay on it for a year or so?

Or are you of the opinion that the 1/4 the money, or less, herbs from say vitacost or Herbs-Wholesale won't do the job for us po' folks?

Just asking.

I don't know IF my wife would appreciate selling our house to buy medications. What do you think?

Jim [Cool]

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What is OXO? Thanx.
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I'm looking around for info on that --

and I just had a 'Happy Accident' I believe..
and found this OXO brand for natural chicken/beef/lamb stocks.

I know it's off the thread topic, but we eat lots of soups and stews with allot of veggies that I consider medicinal, and it is almost impossible to find a healthy stock in the stores (and I have no time to make my own)!

So here's this for anyone who wants it:

OXO soup stock:
http://www.realstockbyoxo.co.uk/

I'll pass on any info about the plant derivative OXO if I find it.

Mo

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This looks like an intersting scientific paper on plant compounds and malaria..

Maybe if there is another (scientific) name for OXO, or if OXO is a compond found within certain plant roots..

this could be related.. or maybe not.

But -- I find allot of stuff of interest usually by accident when I'm looking for something else [Cool]

http://www.mdpi.org/molecules/papers/60100117.pdf

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fyi - BioPure is no longer offering OXO. I just learned this today and thought I would post.

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Oxygenbabe, what I said above is all I know about it. I did not use it -- I was already well at the time it came into use.

Apparently, since it is a proprietary blend/compound, and they are not in a position to give the ingredients of a product, it is not available at Biopure now.

JimB, what stuff are you referring to?

If you are talking herbs in general, I just make sure they are "clean", not "castrated" and not fumigated, etc. That goes for all. I am not always certain that everything we buy at the health food store is free of pesticides, etc. So make sure. It is useless to for instance use a garlic that is contaminated already before we consume it. By nature, garlic picks up toxins while growing, if it is surrounded by them or in the soil. So it has to be grown with care under the best conditions, organically.

I am also very careful with taking that many cadaver capsules and prefer the cellulose or veggie caps. Just think how much of this people swallow every day!!!!! Add the fillers to it - all the chalk!! I often opened the capsules, made smoothies out of them.

Got to run.

Take care.

I know it would be so much nicer not to have to worry about things like that. But that's today's world and we have to be alert. I always approach all our purchases with that in mind.

Take care.

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ORGANIC HERBS - GOOD PRICES

Mountain Rose Herbs offers organic herbs at very good prices. It lists the country its grown in and most any other info you might want.

They do not sell herbal products but if you are looking for just plain pure herbs, spices and even afordable organic green tea from Japan, not China they have it.

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This looks interesting!

(Mucuna Powder mentioned above)


Mucuna Pruriens (DopaBean) 15% L-Dopa
Mucuna and Medicine



Mucuna pruriens, commonly known as velvet bean or cowitch, is a plant indigenous to India A clinical study confirmed the efficacy of the seeds in the management of Parkinson's disease by virtue of their L-Dopa content1,5. Mucuna pruriens, recognized as an aphrodisiac in Ayurveda, has been shown to increase testosterone levels2, leading to deposition of protein in the muscles and increased muscle mass and strength3. The extract is also known to enhance mental alertness and improve coordination4.

1. Manyam, B.V., et. al. (1995) J. of Alternative and Comp. Med., 1 (3) 249-255.

2. Amin, K.M.Y. (1996) Fitoterapia, 67:53-58.

3. Bhasin, S., et. al. (1996) New England J. of Med., 335, 1-7.

4. Singh, R.H. et al. (1989) J. Res. Ayur. Siddha, 1(1):1-6.

5. Bell , Nulu and Cone (1971). Phytochem. 10, 2191-2194 According to the MS Swaminathan Research Foundation of Chennai, traditional healthcare uses of Mucuna pruriens (local names: Baidhanka (Oriya), Rundulu (Rana), Tuliarimalalaha (Kandha)) in southern India are as follows:

i. Abdominal discomfort: Grind the root of Mucuna pruriens to make a paste. Take this paste orally once a day for two days.

ii. Cholera: Boil the roots of Mucuna pruriens with four litres of water. Filter the decoction. Take one glass of this decoction orally with honey eight times a day until cured.

iii. Diabetes: Grind together the following into powder: 50 g seeds of Mucuna pruriens, 50 g seeds of Hygrophila auriculata, 50 g tubers of Ipomoea digitata, 50 g roots of Withania somnifera, 50 g 9 tuber of Curculigo orchioides and 50 g tuber of Salmalia malabarica. Take one teaspoonful of this powder orally with one glass of water in which sugar candy is already dissolved, twice a day for a month.

iv. Infertility (In men): Put 10 g roots of Mucuna pruriens s glass of cow milk. After few minutes the colour of this milk change to black. Take this glass of milk orally in the evening once a day for seven days.

v. Leucorrhoea: Grind the seeds of Mucuna pruriens into powder. Take one teaspoonful of this powder orally with 10 g honey twice a day for fifteen days.

vi. Scorpion bite: Grind the seeds of Mucuna pruriens with water to make a paste. Apply this paste on the affected area twice a day for four days.

vii. Snakebite: Extract juice from the roots of Mucuna pruriens. Take orally one teaspoonful of this juice three to four times continuously just after snake bite. Grind 100 g root of Mucuna pruriens to make a paste. Mix 50 g molasses to this paste. Take this paste orally with water just after snakebite.

viii. Toothache: Sundry the root of Mucuna pruriens. Grind this dried root into powder. Apply this powder on the aching teeth.

ix. Worm infection in cattle: Grind the fruit of Mucuna pruriens to make a paste. Administer orally this paste with water to the cattle twice a day for four days. Grind the seed of Mucuna pruriens into paste. Administer this paste orally with water to the cattle once a day until cured.

x. Worm infection: Grind together the root of Mucuna pruriens with the root of Cassia occidentalis to make a paste. Take this paste orally with a glass of water once a day for three days.

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Thanks, Sofy, I will have to look into that.

Also, Buhner recommended Andrea and Mathias Reisen for the highest quality herbs. Though they are a small, concienteous business, so they do not have ALL the herbs that I use. I have not tried them as yet, but will, once I get some of these that I do have used up.
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GIGI:

I went to BioPure and looked at ALL their prices for herbs, etc., and they were pretty high compared to what I am used to paying. I am SURE they are excellent, but pretty much out of MY pocketbook range, unfortunately.

Do their prices include free shipping? Or is that extra too? Do you know?

THanks,

Jim





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JimB, you might ask Biopure these questions. I do know that Biopure go to all ends to find the purest products, because Dr. K. uses them for his patients. If a product does not bring the expected results for a patient, it's gone. They literally went half around the world to find the cleanest garlic, organically grown; the products are tested for purity, again and again at certain intervals. Many a supplement does not pass the test.

When I was still in the midst of illness, there were a number of products that I had picked from different places, brought them for testing, and they were not acceptable. That usually is enough not to use a certain product. If that happens a second time with another patient, a red flag goes up and the product is tossed. You would be amazed how often that is the case. I could not say this shop or that shop, because these people are usually just selling the products and not making them. I am very careful before I take anything, especially a plant product unless it comes from a producer that has control over the growth and manufacturing of the herb. I know that the cilantro tincture that Dr. K. has used for many years comes from one grower, one processor. I know exactly where the Chlorella comes from that I use and that it is under constant watch. I will only use the best quality that has been processed with the greatest care. I
I am all for spending as little as possible - but that's where I draw the line. I want only clean products in my body. Some time they cost a bit more. I am a pennypincher too - but that's where I stop.

Find the best you can. If a product has lost half its strength because it was poorly processed or is old, what's the use.

Some of the capsulated herbs have outgased their
strength. Smell the old spices in your kitchen cupboard and smell one that is freshly harvested. Everything has a price. I also try to avoid the cadaver gelatin capsules. That is especially important when taking many.

I saw one relative of a close friend die of Mad Cow Disease (here). That taught me a lesson.

Have you read my post that you get double of triple the punch if you take your herbs with electrolytes. (In general he uses more of the tinctures - less changes through the different digestive processes. With good, well balanced electrolytes. Not junk.
Dr. K. has done the Heart Rate Variability testing on patients using electrolytes, and without. Electrolytes activate all functions of the Autonomic Nervous System and improve trans-cell-membrane communication. Meds, he says, are much more effective with electrolytes than without.

Just in case you also sometime use Freeze-Dried Garlic, do not use Garlic close to all other herbs. Use Garlic away from all other herbs. Garlic counters the effect of the others. Per Dr. K. who uses a lot of all.

Since you are so interested in the herbs, I wish you could have heard his talk about them at the recent "Lyme Disease and other Neurotoxin Mediated Illnesses" Seminar. I am still trying to recall it all and file it in the right slot in my brain where I can find it again.

He added a curious remark:

"It appears that Lyme spirochetes are highly intelligent and have learned to a large degree to live with us and manipulate our system to their advantage. Our health becomes compromised, but only rarely severely. This is when we make the diagnosis "Lyme disease". Bb in inducing the host to make his/her own neurotoxins, which disable the host to a degree but are however essential and necessary for the survival of Bb.

Most other infectious microbes make their own neurotoxins and immunotoxins. This adaptation of Bb points toward the fact that Bb or close relatives have been with us for a long time (10s of thousands of years)."

Take care.

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quote:
Originally posted by oxygenbabe:
What is OXO? Thanx.

I think it's hugs and kisses! [Smile]
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I see these on the product page at Biopure. Are THESE the 2 products you've been referring to, Gigi??

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Electrolyte--Enhanced Matrix Formula Liquid
1 litre bottle.....

Matrix Microbes (healthy micro-organisms) Liquid
4 fl.oz.....
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Also, I saw this:

Lyme and co-infection Nosode Tablets ........................ $35.00
homeopathic lyme frequencies

Do you know anything about these tablets and how they are used?

Thanks

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Thanks GiGi

That was so interesting that BB manipulates our bodies to make our own neurotoxins as opposed to other microbs that make their own neurotoxins/immunotoxins.

If they could come up with a way to disable our ability to make our own neurotoxins/immunotoxins do you think they would come up with the answer?

P.S. Thanks so much for the information about spacing out the garlic & herbs.

That is invaluable information. [Smile]

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Thanks for the answer GiGi, lots to decipher on this Lyme thing. But getting better all the time. Heck, maybe by the time I get rid of it completely, I will be an expert too.

I hear you on "cheap". I bought some Sarsaparilla and have not opened it. It was the cheapest they sold, but I didn't know why. Then on researching it, I found out that the stuff from India is adulterated. So I wrote Stephen Buhner, and he said HE would NOT use any adulterated product. So I ordered the more expensive stuff.


I try now to get either ethically wildcrafted or Certified Organic.

I also have purchased and am now using veggie empty capsules. They are more expensive also, and few commercially filled capsules are the gelatin, NOT veggie caps. But I didn't like the sound of the bovine thing, so switched. (Trying to get healthier myself). I am still using up some capsules that I bought and filled before, but when ALL are gone, I will only buy the veggie caps. Wonder Laboratories has them in different size bags.

Take care, getting tired, time for bed.

Jim

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