Topic: Colostrum transfer factor-who was that from long ago that tried it?
just don
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Hi all, Many (a few) okay maybe a couple years ago some gal from the Northeast part of the nation(I think).
She posted that she was going to have someone inject her BB into a mother goat or sheep and when it had a baby the colostrum would be saved and given to her and it was supposed to be a conduit to a "CURE".
There was an article quite some time back also that claimed that Berkly Bedell(Iowa congressman from the 70's(??))who had to resign because of lyme, who cured himself by doing same thing with a cow.
He felt it really turned the corner and helped when nothing else did. Except he still had alot of arthritis symptoms.
The gal was keeping everybody here up to date with her progress, and I lost track when I didnt have time to follow.
Anybody remeber WHO it was??? And how it turned out?? Worked or non-worked??
Any body know any additional info on THIS subject of taking colostrum for fixing the tough stuff of this crappy disease???
I am all ears, fillem up!!!as I remain--just don--
-------------------- just don Posts: 4548 | From Middle of midwest | Registered: May 2001
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This is weird because I was just going to post a question about this. I wasn't sure what was meant by transfer factor.
Last week I asked my LLMD what to take to try and raise my "natural killer cells" (of which I have none). She sort of shrugged and said, "Transfer factor?"
I'm so tired of all this crap - all the non-answers. I've been taking some goat colostrum but I guess it isn't doing any good.
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GiGi
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Just Don, the goat girl was Oxygenbabe. She may have been posting under a different name then. But I remember it well. I think O. changed her mind about this, and I am sort of glad that she did. She has hurt long enough without possibly adding more.
By the way, the fellow Congressman not only had arthritis left, he also turned up later with prostate problems. It is well known that the bacteria of Lyme, etc. accumulate in the prostata. Dr. K. has a friendly pathologist who examines them after removal/surgeries. The bugs like to hang out near the reproductive organs - they don't want to miss a chance to reproduce/pass themselves on to husband/wife.
Whatever, many large animals are carriers of Lyme, etc. I say "etc." because that's what it is. You never know what you get. Like that box of chocolate! I got one heck of a case of bartonella along with everything else from a cow via a tick.
Take care.
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Don,you should be able to find out more about Transfer Factor at the Prohealth.com website.I think they have a forum there. Alan
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If you go to the IOWA support group, look for Melanie's name an EMAIL ADDY.
She's been on this stuff for years...she was to continue working, etc.
Do NOT mention my name; she's the one who was nasty to me lately on the "we don't want you at the lyme support group meeting".
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luvs2ride
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CLC,
Cat's Claw is supposed to boost our NK cells. Per Stephen Buhner, don't get the TAO free kind.
I herxed pretty good on it and assume the increased killer cells is to blame.
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just don
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Thanks to all who posted,
Gigi,
Congressman Bedell had full blown cancer. He was looking for another natural cure, last I heard. Wonder IF he ever found one.
Seems it helps to be somebody. Ever hear of Birkley fishing gear, thats him???.
So are you saying that the colostrum thing is harmful???? Maybe I misunderstood.
Just read where this transfer factor which 'helps' the immune system benefits go away when you cease taking it and they are suggesting you take it the rest of your life.
As expensive as that stuff is, I can see THERE benefit!!!
Has to be a more permanent fix. Just for --just don--NOT
PS still looking for Oxegenbabe's input.
-------------------- just don Posts: 4548 | From Middle of midwest | Registered: May 2001
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Cat's Claw is supposed to boost our NK cells. Per Stephen Buhner, don't get the TAO free kind.
I herxed pretty good on it and assume the increased killer cells is to blame.
Yeah - I saw this yesterday in the book. I got the raintree Cat's Claw he recommends. My LLMD told me to "toss it"....that I needed the TAO free capsules (with included enzymes).
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just don
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Oxygen babe, Are you the one, years ago here, who did hyberbaric dives to help their lyme, and then was going to have this guy with goats make custom colostrum for YOU???
Cant remeber what your screen name was back then, its almost on the tip of my tongue, cant get it to roll off.
Did you try the real deal stuff made for YOU???
Any body else have the stuff made from their own blood injected into an animal??? Interesting article, but HOW would you inject it???
As I understand it the cow ISNT treated, just lets the immune system creat antibodies to fight the BB. MY luck is I wouldnt have any bb in the sample I contributed!!!
The colostrum is very thick and does wonders for her baby, but would it do something for ME???
Anybody else have any contributions to the theory or idea???
As I understand it IF it really did work you could NOT speak of it or do it for somebody else because they prosecute you to poverty!!! Plus maybe some bread and water in prison!!
Does everything HAVE to be so complicated???
TIA --d--
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i don't know if she's still around. i was off the board for a couple years and now i haven't seen her posting recently. but maybe someone else knows.
best wishes, flossie
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GiGi
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Just Don, I guess you won't hear from Oxygenbabe because it seems she has been banned from this board. Oxygenbabe always responds when something interesting is going on here. So you can assume she has been silenced. I sort of saw this coming when I read her post about the "intelligence of microbes", with which I also agree. It took me to be very ill to finally start realizing and believing this. (Microbes have become aggressive not because they are stupid, but because they are intelligent and need to survive as much as we do or want to.)
I kknow that Oxygenbabe did not pursue the goat colostrum because it is not effective. She told me "because Lyme changes its antigens so often, antibodies are not the answer".
I will add here: Dr. K. is not using colostrum - and I consider him the most daring MD who uses anything that is safe and has a chance to push the microbes back.
You might get a lot more than you bargained for. Try plants?
Take care.
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just don
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Thanks for the info. I guess I am at a loss as to why somebody would be banned for speaking about the intelligence of microbes. Is that hurtful to anyone? Or what am I missing here??because I am --just don-- with a sore
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while i haven't taken transfer factor, or colostrum,i'd forgo these, and go either for rechts-regulat, wobenzym,rutozym, or almost any multi-enzyme formulation over these. they will go a lot further toward convalescence than colostrum and/or transfer factor, whether taken singularly or combined.
i haven't taken rechts-regulat multi-enzyme supp., but have done the others mentioned, and a few other multi-enzyme supps.
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Hi Don, FWIW, I took Colostrum with Lacroferrin for several months, until I read that it is destroyed in the stomach, so taking it orally is a waste of money. Can't remembrer where I read that, but I felt duped (again). TOA free liquid Samento extract makes me herx like crazy. I have gotten results with it. Klutzo
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GiGi
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I am as much at a loss as you are, Don. I think the people that play Lymenet Police here and the people overseeing this board should explain their true reasons for banning her. She is bright, intelligent, knowledgeable and searching, and just because she does not fit the run-of-the-mill mentality, should get at a minimum a warning and explanation why she is banned from this board.
I have had that threat and "being watched over" feeling myself and I am rather tired of it.
I was banned from this board (and invited back) a few years ago because I dared to speak about Electromagnetic and Geopathic stress exposure at that time. Nothing has changed, except many would not be ill if they paid attention to this facet of Lyme Disease.
It seems that people who do not agree with the mass approach should not be heard or kept away in order not to disturb the status quo. I do not understand it. Oxygenbabe alone contributed immensely with her interview and report of Prof. Schardt and the use of Diflucan/Fluconazole. That alone should get her a medal!
This is a horrid disease and it is very clear that a one-way approach does not work for many.
Yes, microbes are highly intelligent, though in a "primitive" body - they are beating us by leaps and bounds because they feel as threatened as we are and become increasingly aggressive the harder we try to wipe them off this planet. They have been with us for tens of thousands of years and more and more chemicals will not make them disappear, but make them stronger.
We have to find a way to let them live in order for us to live. As you can see, even cows have their problems.
I hope we get an explanation why Oxygenbabe cannot post here any longer and contribute to this board. Maybe she will then give us her explanation why she did not pursue her original plan for transfer factors.
Take care.
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This shouldn't be good against Bb I would think due to the antigen shift/stealth properties. For cancer this sounds interesting.
9. Directly after the 3 rd raid by the FDA and other aforementioned named conspirators, DEDI turned some of its research toward some scientists and farmers that were working together on a project, which had been showing success in treating terminal cancer.
What some scientists had found: was that a cow's metabolism has the capability to build immunities against almost any kind of invader; to include cancer. Cows almost never acquire cancer. The scientists also knew, cows like humans transfer their immunities via colostrum, to their young. What the scientists and farmers had come up with was: they would inject the exact cancer cells of the person terminally ill, with a specific type of cancer cell, into the utter of cows in hopes the cows would immediately build immunities to the untreatable cancer.
They would then impregnate the cows and have the patient dying of a non-treatable specific cancer; drink the colostrum in hopes the colostrum contained the specificantibodies to kill the untreatable cancer.
The reports coming out from doctors and farmers was that it was "working"; that they needed to refine the method and mass produce the colostrum.
While DEDI was reviewing the positive private trial results, attempting to come up with a different versions of the cancer specific colostrum; the FDA, incited by the pharmaceutical industry pacs and money, closed the operations down coast to coast. The FDA touting it was all hogwash when the factsrevealed it wasn't.Threatening the doctors and putting the farmers in jail to stop the research which was revealing positive results. DEDI dropped the research.
GiGi
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Now the cows are threatened by Mad Cow Disease. What do you think brings that on?
Dr. K. tests all of his cancer patients shortly after they start treatment for their cancer. Most of them (I think he said all of them) test positive for Lyme by Western Blot.
Take care.
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just don
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Thanks so much for all the "COOL" posts!! Really heartening to see all the people that really cares!!!--jd--
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