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zzzzzz
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Hi. I hope someone may be able to help me. I have had a mystery illness that my doctor could have sworn is MS. Symptoms started with Pnuemonia and sinus infection, then severe muscular pain, fatigue, and intermittant bladder problems which went on for about a year. Then came numbness, tingling, tremor & weekness in left limbs, face, & torso. Pnuemonia, sinus infection, occasional fevers, double vision, eye pain, digestion problems, ataxia, unexplained falls, virtigo, speach and cognitive problems. But clear MRI! All this was severe for 3 months, and then began to settle. 7 months after neuro symptoms began, I am left with numb left toes 24/7, fatigue and muscle pain (tho I do have good days now), and I have to wear glasses with a prism to see straight. Finally got to see Neuro last month (takes a long time here) and he said he was confident its not MS due to clear scan. He said it could be Migraine Aura tho hes not too sure and would I still have numb toes all the time if it was? Can't say I'm too convinced, so I've been watching the medhelp forum and thats how I got here. It seems we don't have the ticks here in NZ, but the possibility that Lyme could be sexually transmitted is what interests me, as I had a partner who had just come back home after working in Bulgaria for a year at a new mountain resort, building Gondolas. While he was home, he had a flu that wouldn't go away, with ear infections, and obvious depression - he was awful to be around because he'd never really been ill before. He eventually improved and went back overseas - haven't seen him since. I'm now wondering if he had Lyme - its the only way I could have got it. My question is, how to handle the doctors here who don't know much about the disease and altho we can get a blood test here, I see that its not reliable. Please help.
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Carol in PA
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Hey, zzzzzz, glad to see you found your way over here! Welcome to LymeNet!

When you get a chance, take a look at the "newbie help links," which is one of the posts near the top of this page.

You'll have enough stuff to read to keep you busy for a while, heh.

I'll check back with you later, gater.
Carol

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Don't know HOW much help I can be. I am not a doctor, though many of them are no help either.

I think it IS possible to get Lyme just about any place on this earth. Except probably the north and south poles.

I am not sure WHERE your migratory birds come from. Also, like you said people come from OTHER parts of the world and can infect you.

It is not proven that you can or can't get it sexually or from kissing, etc..

BUT any of those could do it.

Mosquitoes carry it, as do the ticks, fleas, and biting flies.

You DO have many of the symptoms, but that is the problem in diagnosing Lyme, the symptoms mimic other diseases also.

Maybe try some of the herbs we have talked about on here. They have good properties to relieve the pain of arthritis, brain fog, blurry vision, etc.. They helped me get relief from all of the above and even more symptoms.

THe Ingenex and Bowen tests are supposed to be pretty good. Though from what I have read, the other tests are hit and miss at best.

Hopefully others with experience in your part of the world can come up with some more and better answers for you.

Jim [Cool]

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hello, the statistics may be helpful for you, there is new zealand on there too countries i dont know how reliable because there must be many people NOT listed yet.
you urgendly need antibiotics, the herbs can only be an additional thing, they wont kill the bacteria!!!

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The question of sexual transmission is still open at this point. Some good lyme doctors say yes, some say no. Mainstream doctors say no, but they are doing a lousy job with this disease in general, so denial is not convincing coming from them.

It is a spirochetosis like syphilis, so that is reason enough to suspect it. On the other hand, people in the same environment tend to encounter the same environmental hazards.

I would not rule out getting it in NZ even if the medical establishment and public health people have said it isn't on your islands. They tend to be the last to know. And birds are definitely spreading this thing. If they have it in Australia, why not NZ? However, it is also "controversial" in Australia, as in the public health people say it isn't there, but some doctors are treating patients. Australians are great travelers, but could all of them have gotten it somewhere else?

Your symptoms do sound like lyme and somehow you need to find someone who will consider this diagnosis. If you private message me, I will send you some info on Australia, in case you have to go elsewhere for medical help.

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Hello-

My husband and I are Kiwi's living in NYC- I got Lyme here on my very first walk in the woods outside of Manhattan!-

My neice goes to Dio (sp?) in Auckland, and I know that there is a little girl who got Lyme while in Sweden last year- I may be able to find out which dr's treated her in Auckland-

There is a huge deer population in NZ and I wouldn't be suprised if there is deer stock imported from the US for breeding/farming purposes-

I have read that there are also tick/lyme problems in the UK in sheep- so perhaps there could be that link as well- in the old days, farmers used to dip their sheep- but with organic farming, there could be ticks and Lyme entering that population as well-

I'm by no means casting negative judgement on organic farming by the way-

Have you travelled overseas? Do you live in a rural area?
This website is a fantastic resource and I've found out so much here!-

I hope that I can be of some help- feel free to email me personally as well if you like-

Good luck-

Sarah

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lots of people all over the world have been exposed to the lyme bugs. Some get it many do not..
If you have a weakened immune system chances are you will get it....
The key is to ignore the lies and half truths about modern diets... Low fat diets will kill you. Cholestrol is used as fuel by the immune system. Ignore the lies spread by the drug companies to sell their poison (ducks get big kickbacks for selling the poison)..

Low cholestrol means high risk for cancer (more money for the ducks).
Your body depends on natural fats for it's fuel..
Artifical cooking oils will kill you.. Soy (western, hydrogenated) is a slow poison (messes up the thyroid). Asian Soy is made by fermentation process and is ok....

Coconut oil is the best cooking oil. It will boost your immune system and power up the brain... It also helps diabetics. Use the virgin oil. You should be able to get it easy in NZ. It hard to get over here..

Also, I have a friend in Aukland that can get the "magic" honey called Manuka... The pure stuff is best found in NZ as it is a local product there (the flower grows only in NZ)... This seems to be a very powerful natural antibiotic with little or no side effects... The honey has an odd taste but grows on you...
But, since I have been using coconut oil, I haven't needed the honey for a while.... I take about 2/3 tablespoons of coconut oil a day. It's great to take a bit to get a bad taste out of your mouth....

good luck
Tj

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WOW, BANKS, WHERE did YOU get YOUR information?

PLEASE be sure to get accurate information BEFORE giving out false statements here.

Of course herbs KILL Lyme spirochetes.

I certainly would NOT be using them for MY cure, IF they did not kill Lyme bacteria, (Spirochetes).

THAT is what Buhner's Protocol in the "Healing Lyme" naturally book is all about.

HERBS will kill what the antibiotics can NOT kill.

Give us a break here. PLEASE!

Jim [Cool]

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ZZZ, sorry you're going through this.
In your place, i'd start on stephen buhner's herbs while you look for help.

It'll be hard to find help if disease is unknown in NZ. You may suffer more from finding medical help than from disease itself, as it's my case in Switzerland.

You'll probably know if you have lyme if you take andrographis and/or cats claw and/or antibiotics, and have a herx after it/them. Start very slow DOSES, ONE HERB/DRUG AT A TIME,or herxes could be very dangerous.

Try to go to any infectious disease center or so. It's been almost a year since i got lyme and I still couldn't find a good doctor.

I hope you dont have lyme, but if you do, put your energy to find medical help parallel with self treatment, in case it takes time to find good help.

just my own experience...

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jim, we dont need to argue here, there is no way you can cure lyme and kill all borrelia just with herbs. even in the report of this woman getting healed with oils she said she used different antibiotics WITH it. its good if you believe it but you must be the only one in the world healed just by herbs. what means healed anyway, it might come back in some years
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