someone there posted about doing something similar.
Please be careful doing this type of thing. It can be very dangerous. YOur heart,brain and other vital organs also do not like to get that hot. So I would not do this type of hot bath unless directed by someone who has experience.
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I have not tried doing this and as you can see I don't remember the exact details like what temperature you are trying to get the body up to.
I would have to call back and write everything down before I did try it.
I do plan doing this.
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All I know is that I take hot baths (just as hot as I can tolerate) daily and I try to add epsom salt and baking soda when I can. Sometimes I just put in my favorite bubble bath.
I sweat it out in there for about 20 mins. Its supposed to be a good way to release toxins. I do feel better afterward---at least for a little while.
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Hi Travis
I haven't heard of tryig to get your temp up to 104. Sounds dangerous. There are things you have to talk over with your MD first!!
If the body temp is too high you can: 1- have heart problems 2- pass out in the tub 3-become dehydrated 4-your electrolites can become unbalanced.
Be careful and make sure to talk this over with your LLMD
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You can't get your entire body up to 104 w/o risking killing yourself. Your vital organs won't be able to take it.
Even if you survived, you have to be prepared for a herx so powerful that the herx alone might kill you.
Hot baths were used to treat syphilis before penicillin was discovered. But they were done w/nurses in attendance.
I understand the attraction to doing it. I'm attracted to the idea myself, and have done it to a degree. But I'm a former hospital pharmacist, and I have a good sense of when not to push my limits too far. If you read trails link, you'll find my post in fair detail, but I'd be happy to give you more detail if you want to pm me.
The bottom line is that I had a herx that followed my hot bath was huge and frightening, and I only got my temp up to 102 p.o.
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Never took hubby's temp in the bath but a couple of times doing epsom salts baths I had to help him out of the tub when he had "seizure-like" episodes. One time I had put some fresh ginger in the tubwater also and he got a good swallow and half drowned himself which really upset his stomach on top of the other problems.
He hasn't had a bath in over a year come to think of it. However he has been exercising and sweating out some toxins during the last year.
Saunas can be very hard to tolerate as well. Again I can't say what his temp was, but the main problem here was probably worsening of magnesium deficiency and depletion of other minerals.
Please be careful. With any treatment, even those supervised by a doc, my advice is to start slow and see what happens. It's better to be safe than sorry.
P.S. He does take a shower most days though!
Bea Seibert
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I have seen the recommendation to get the temp up to 104 often, usually in the context of far infrared saunas. FIR was prescribed for me, but I did not try it, having been made ill by regular saunas, and having high blood pressure. The question I have is this.... Dr. K has said that Borrelia can survive a 1,000 degree fire, so how would a temp of 104 degrees really help? Klutzo
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i read borrelias are heat (-dry) sensitive. I made it up to 102 in the sauna and try bathing very hot too, but as soon as i feel uncomfortable with my circulation i get out and rest. more then 10 min is difficult for me. i just hope to stirr them up so they move.
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You shouldn't try to get your body temperature to 104, that is dangerous, but it is fine to do a bath with the water temperature at 102-104 degrees Fahrenheit.
There has been research that doing this for 20-40 minutes increases your body's immune response, and the bacteria don't like getting warmed up.
I would suggest carefully getting out and back in when you start feeling like you have gotten warm enough. I don't suggest the ice pack on the head.
The Lyme bacteria will just move from everywhere else that is warm in your body up to your head and cause problems there.
It is important to be careful getting in and out of the bath tub, because a lot of people with Lyme can faint from orthostatic hypotension.
And it is important to keep an eye on how fast your heartbeat gets, and make sure it stays in a safe range.
Done in this manner, I think baths can be very therapeutic for Lyme. Taking hot baths helped me a lot. I also used essential oils in my bathwater, and that increased the immune response and the kill effect on the bacteria.
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