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just don
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Was thinking about this as I was riding around yesterday in quite a thunderstorm, rainstorm,and hailstorm, getting soaked and pounded(lucky my head is harder than the hail stones). Soon as I completed my duties the storm passed and the sun came out. (Whooda thunk?)

A week or two ago this 14 year old girl playing YMCA soccer(elesewhere in our state) was struck and killed by lightening and three others, one seriously were hurt with same strike. I always thought they called those games when it was like that.

Tonight on the news it was saying a church in a local town 'USED" to have a stone cross on top. Now it is a shattered bits and pieces on the ground.

Okay question is, can you be hurt by lightening if you are on rubber tired vehicle??? Does it insulate your self from the ground? never ever heard of anybody that gets struck while driving but you hear somebody playing golf get hit all the time.

Can you get struck "inside" your house when you see those wicked little fingers running thru when it pops loud? What about when you see the flickers of finger lightning but then it takes a couple seconds for the boom, so that means it is a couple miles away???

Never scared me to be around lightning, because I am--just don--

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"Okay question is, can you be hurt by lightening if you are on rubber tired vehicle??? Does it insulate your self from the ground".

You are safe in rubber tired vehicle as long as you don't touch anything metal. The rest of your questions I don't know.

I had a friend, deceased now, who was electrocuted; he lost his leg, and lived to tell about it.

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Carol in PA
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Geez, Don, were you riding in a convertable? Or was it the tractor?

Yes, coaches are required to call off outdoor games when a thunder storm approaches.
I saw once where there is a gadget available that can sense approaching electrical storms; the marketing for it was aimed at schools and organizations that run sports.

If you are in an enclosed car, I believe you're safe from lightening. (Downed wires, too.)
I've read that the electricity passes through the metal, but doesn't connect with the ground because of the tires.

40 years ago, lightening struck through a window of my grandfather's house, hitting an outlet and setting the place on fire.
So I guess it can happen.

Carol

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My very good friend's car was struck by lighting in Santa Fe last year as she was driving it. Aside from feeling very weird for a few days, she was fine. The lightning struck her windshield and also her hood.

As for safety in the house, I am not sure, but I did hear of someone who was struck by lightning in their home while talking on the phone as the electricity went through the wires on the phone and hit him (this was before wireless phones).

Alison

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Hi All
I have had lighting hit 20 to 30 feet
from me 3 times -its perty exciting --

I like wild weather --
One of my best memories is taking
a shower in a Real strong lighting
storm--was wild--Jay--

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We are having a lightening storm right now and I was on the phone with my daughter. The line crackled several times and I wondered about safety.

Then I got off and read this post. whew!

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Yes, can be hit if near a window inside a house. Lightning can go thru phone wires...get off the phone. It does melt co-ax cable...been there...our house in IL. was struck.

Okay in a car while driving. The tires protect...even if the car takes a direct hit. Will do a number on your car's electrical system though.

Strikes can come out of NOWHERE. Happened in a Publix (grocery store) lot on a nice day. No apparent storm overhead.

The sooner the sound, the closer the strike. We count.

Lots of different kinds...ball lightning is amazing to see and hear (that's the kind that hit our chimney). The speed of the flash and the intensity of the sound is awesome...inexplicable.

They really go from the ground up...

Florida is the lightning capitol of the world.

With all the terrible storms in the midwest recently, I'm sure a lot of folks are nervous.

(You aren't safe on any phone, wireless or not...it can jump.)

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OK now for the technical answers...

There is what is called the Faraday Cage principle. If you are inside a metal mesh you are safe. The metal will conduct the electricity around you.

I saw an episode of Fear Factor where they wore chain link clothes and passed by an arc of several million volts.

So a car is safe a convertable with the cover up may be safe (depends on the space between the metal straps), and a bicycle is NOT SAFE!!!!!!

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Now for the other side of the coin..

Can lightning treat lyme disease? I have heard of people who survived near hits to discover their diabetes or arthritis, or whatever was totally cured.

That got me interested in electronic devices to treat diseases. Currently I use a "Thumper", a "Doug coil", and an "ozone device". But I have yet to create "Lightning" or the ultimate device that can cure just about anything.

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http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/essd18jun99_1.htm (some neat pictures!)


http://www.ifyougolf.com/features/lightning/medical/

Lightning may cause numerous other injuries:
� Heart damage or cardiac arrest may occur.
� Up to two-thirds of the seriously injured people struck by lightning have keraunoparalysis--a temporary paralysis unique to lightning strike.
� Victims may experience superficial burns. Contrary to common belief, deep burns are rare. They occur in fewer than 5% of lightning injuries.
� Various types of broken bones and dislocations may be caused by lightning.
� Skull fractures and cervical spine (neck) injuries may result from associated blunt trauma.
� Lungs may be damaged, causing shortness of breath.
� Eye injury may cause immediate visual problems or delayed cataract formation.
� The eardrum is commonly ruptured. This causes pain, hearing loss, and dizziness.

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/lightning_strike/page3_em.htm

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[Roll Eyes]
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Lightning will also travel through water pipes into your home.

If using the faucet, stop!
If in the shower, get out!
If in an outdoor pool or hottub, seek safety indoors.

A few years back in Colorado, I watched as a bolt struck a very old and giant lodgepole pine on my mountain.

It exploded and caught on fire in the rain.

This was during a severe drought season, and all of the trees were as dry as kindling.

It took the fire department most of the day to climb the hillside, cut it down and put it out.

Quite a few people die each year from lightning strikes in Colorado.

Please think safety first! [Smile]

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