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The last 24 hrs. I was finally able to print Dr. B's 05 lyme treatment guidelines, and highlited items as I went along.

After reading all 33 printed pages, I noticed he does NOT address those of us with diabetes 2/1 and CHRONIC LYME. Why not?


From my beginner LLMD, lyme & diabetes is COMMON, and he had a lot of patients with both illnesses.

He also stated those of us ith BOTH illnesses are not doing well at all.

I leave tomorrow afternoon for my Minn. LLMD appt. on Thurs. am. NOT looking forard to the drive since I'm so stoved up, can't move, and my degenerative arthritis in left groin area, is so painful!

I hope you can shed some light on this since my LLMD calls Dr. B. for advise on difficult cases, which I am.

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Hi Betty,

I do not know anything about managing the two illnesses together.

I would think it would be very difficult to control two diseases at once, and can see how it would be hard to find a good balance.

Just wanted to let you know I will be thinking about you on your journey to the new LLMD.

Hang in there and I hope you get through okay on the trip. I know it can be really rough, especially when we already feel bad and have to travel.

Good luck!

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Morning blackbirdsings!

Thank you for the well wishes today/tomorrow while I travel to my new llmd. I haven't been this far from home in 6 years!

Bettyg

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I wondered the same thing myself. Seems like many people with Lyme start with hypoglycemia and then end up with diabetes. My mother just told me that she has mild diabetes, I do too.

Everyone in my family is sick with lyme symptoms and every single person in my family now has diabetes. That's both of my parents and 4 children. Very unlikely according to my dad's old endocronologist. I just assumed it was caused by Lyme.
Terry

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good luck betty...hope you get answers and hope.. [group hug]

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Teri-

We are becoming aware of possibility of pre-diabetes here. Myself and 2 kids have lyme.

You must have your hands full to put it mildly!!!

May I ask what you are taking and doing to address the diabetes?

Any good websites? I am too overwhelmed to launch a search beyond this site.

Thanks,

Char

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Char, have you deleted messages galore from your PM box here. Yesterday I tried sending you something and it was full.

I just tried sending something to your HOME email but it came back. Please add me to your HOME email address book so my private emails are accepted.

Yes, this has not been easy: chronic lyme, diabetes 2, and food allergies found several months ago of:

no gluten....wheat/rye
no casein....cow's milk, cheeses, egg whites, & GARLIC!

Diet and exercise are the keys.
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Losing just 10-15 lbs. and maintaining it helps
the diabetes really good.

fresh fruits/veggies galore!

I was able to be on diet/exercise for 2 yrs. w/out meds or insuline.

Jan. 06 had to go to med, glyburide; doing ok with it and got my A1C down to 6.0 where they dx us with diabetes!!

You WANT to prevent the diabetes; once you are dx with diabetes, YOU HAVE IT FOR LIFE. The longer you have it, the more health problems there will be later on in life no matter how well you have it under control.

I'm going to copy a FREE NEWSLETTER diabetees sends me every week!! Good info!! I recommend you sign up for this immediately to help you Char.

Char, order this FREE EMAIL NEWSLETTER that comes every 2-3 wks.

One of the last issues was ALL ABOUT KIDS!
You can read back issues of this too!
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Bettyg, Iowa

Char, this did NOT copy right, so go to the bottom to sign up now and you can read it the way it was meant to be read ok. I don't have time to edit the whole thing; leaving now! BG


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Hi Char,
So sorry to hear that you have to look into the diabetes angle. I have done a TON of research on blood sugar issues.

Since I posted back in April, I found information that showed that low grade infection can cause inflammation which can cause insulin resistance. Here is the info in a nutshell but you will have to go to the page itself to click on the links to the studies:
Infection/Inflammation
One study found a correlation between low grade infections and insulin resistance. Their conclusions:
"Pathogen burden showed the strongest association with insulin resistance, especially with enteroviruses and C. pneumoniae seropositivity. We hypothesize that exposure to multiple pathogens could cause a chronic low-grade inflammation, resulting in insulin resistance."
Burden of Infection and Insulin Resistance in Healthy Middle-Aged Men -- Fern�ndez-Real et al. 29 (5): 1058 -- Diabetes Care

Another study states that some components of the insulin resistance syndrome have been related to inflammatory markers.and that chronic sub-clinical inflammation is part of insulin resistance syndrome.42

Low Grade Chronic Inflammation in Women with Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome -- Kelly et al. 86 (6): 2453 -- Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism

Here is the page you can find that on and a lot of other information as well:
Diseases,Medical Conditions and Deficiencies Associated with Blood Sugar and Insulin Control

I haven't seen any studies specific to lyme and blood sugar but I do think that lyme is behind it for me and my family.

I have found that minerals are EXTREMELY important. Magnesium, zinc and I seem to need a lot of colloidal minerals. I've seen studies backing up the need for mag and zinc but nothing on the colloidal minerals yet.

I take a ton of stuff for blood sugars. Chromium is very helpful. I just finished quite a bit of research on chromium because I read that chromium picolinate might be a problem and I've been taking it for several years. Read the article to get the full picture of how chromium works and the best kind to take.
http://www.webshopemporium.com/chromium.htm

I don't take everything on this list but I do take more than a few things on here for blood sugar control. There are herbs to take as well but I haven't done the research on very many herbs for blood sugar yet since I can't take herbs at this time due to a protocol that I'm on.
Supplements for Blood Sugar Control

Diet is critical for control of blood sugars. I don't eat sugar and I eat very little in the way of high carb foods. Look into the glycemic index to determine appropriate foods.

Stress is a big factor with blood sugar control. By that I mean emotional or physical. I've seen it many times in my family.

So far I've been able to avoid insulin injections but I am on the verge of needing them now. Hopefully lyme treatment will keep me (and those in your family) off insulin if the treatment itself doesn't tip me over into needing insulin due to the stress on the body of lyme treatment.
Terry

Oh, one other thing that I found is that for some reason collagen supplements will often stabilize my blood sugars. I think it *might* have to do with the fact that people with diabetes have an increased rate of protein glycosylation but I haven't sorted through that information yet to determine if that is really plausible.

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Yeah...

I know what you mean...I developed diabetes2 about five months ago....

Yippee!......sucks....don't it! zman

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