Im suppose to take 2 pills 2 times a day. My mouth is metal free so i know im safe there.
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Jordan
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I have seen the product before but selected alternate options. In terms of Chlorella, I take about 6 grams per day. Much more than what is in that specific product. In general, it looks like a good combination though.
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Yes, my LLMD (well known, spoke at Hope to Heal) had me tested for heavy metals by urine challenge. I was very high for mercury. He prescribed Chelex 3x/day and after 6 months I was retested and mercury was low. I plan to continue to take Chelex BID (2x/day) for the rest of my life.
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Can you get this without a Script? I though DMSA or Chemet required a Script?
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Thats great to hear that the Chelex helped you. Im thinking of using it or getting the IV EDTA. I really need to research the metal detox stuff. I dont really know too much about it.
Foggy,
Im not sure if you need a script or not. I got mine from an acupuncture doctor. I just never used it because i still had some silver fillings in my mouth.
Jordan
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SForsgren
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I do not think you need a script. They are "professional formulas". However, you can usually find them. This one for example I just found via search here:
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bumping..... any thoughts?
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To my knowledge, Dr. K. does not use Chelex. I have never used Chelex. None of my friends that are still active patients are using it.
My husband is detoxing heavy metals right now after having had a couple of years of absolute no signs of metal toxicity. A recent parasite cleanse set metals free --- a fact that I have mentioned here hundreds of times. Not a Lyme herxheimer, but metals that had still been sitting in a dark little corner in his brain causing off and on minor blockages affecting his movements. We knew that there was still something in hiding. ART revealed parasites, and the parasites revealed some more heavy metals, such as aluminum, cadmium, mercury, lead, etc. etc., mostly earned going back to spending years with the US Navy in WWII.
He fought the war, but we, not Medicare, pay the bill!!!
He does not use Chelex either. I have the feeling that that would be a drop in the bucket. He uses DMPS injected into the nerve ganglia, into sinus areas, into tonsil area; as segmental therapy to aid the liver, kidneys to move the toxins and wherever needed as determined with ART and physical exam; also IM and IV; also DMSA with very specific timing to prevent the metals reentering the brain, IV C with Cal Gluc specifically timed, lots of lymphatic clearing, colonic clearing, chlorella, all accompanied by the most absorbable minerals and trace minerals available in a massive overload. Lots of KMT24 applications for ongoing lymphatic clearing, with or without and old-fashioned foot bath.
He also uses simple red or green lasers to activate circulation in certain "stuck" areas to move the metals.
No one can detox anything without a complete mineral base, probably one of the major reasons people have trouble getting well. We use KMT Minerals Plus and Designs for Health (Albion) Complete Mineral Complex and their Whey Cool.
He is moving the metals out wonderfully and they keep coming. The fact that a urine test shows little, none, or lower quantities means very little, because the "un-mobilized" metals in the areas are solidly bound in the matrix, in the cells, and will stay there until they are coaxed out with all the tricks of the trade. Then the affected area can be alive again. As long as the metals are there, there is dysfunction and there are symptoms. There is no such thing as chelation. There are only complexing agents.
ART testing reveals where the metals are, where the microbes are, and which med will work best to mobilize them as well as give an indication of the supporting agents that are needed to bring them out of the body.
Believe me when I say, where there are metals, there are parasites, there are bacteria, there are viruses, there are fungi. If you still have to fight any type of yeast or mold, most likely metals are part of the problem. And where there is bacteria, where there are parasites, there are heavy metals and there is fungi. Dr. K. has been treating chronic disease for 32 years and has never ever found it to be different; whether you call it Lyme or any other chronic disease. And the third glass that has to be emptied are the unresolved emotional conflicts that are often a solid part of all our lives.
Microbial infections - heavy metals - unresolved emotional conflicts.
Take care.
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Its so hard to know what to do. There are so many differnet opinions especially when it comes to heavy metals.
I was using the chlorella from biopure. However, i have read that many people can have a hard time with it.
Whats even more confusing is the whole sulfur foods issue. I dont see how eating broccoli can be bad for you? Or what about freeze dried garlic? Some say yes, some say no.
I dont mind taking my time with the detox, i just dont want to make myself worse.
I took a DMPS pill and had an EDTA IV last week. My nickel was VERY high. My mercury and lead were elevated too. I have not felt very well since having the test last week.
I had a hair test done about a year ago which showed elevated mercury too. At least my body is releasing it and not holding it in.
I wish there was an ART doctor in South Florida.
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. The more i read, the more confused it get.
Jordan
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So if someone were to use humaworm for 30 days and subsequently kill parasites which release metals...
Would it be wise to do a chelation protocol after doing a parasite cleanse?
GiGi?
is this the typically the process?
Also... why would somebody stop chelating metals during lyme tx. If they are killing bacteria/parasites/yeast then they are going to be releasing metals.
So why ever stop chelating during tx?
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Cane-
I think chelation throughout the entire duration of tx is a good approach.
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Ya I'm thinking so too.
metals work hand in hand with lyme/co and yeast
one can only assume that chelating them throughout tx would help (all this assuming you have high toxic levels... like myself)
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quote:Originally posted by GiGi: ...There is no such thing as chelation. There are only complexing agents.
True. Chelation, as described by various methods on this site, is a complete waste of time and money. Glad I'm doing PSP first. Not even sure if PSP will work, as tx isn't done yet. Can tell you that I'm feeling some physical & emotional changes. Will see as tx progresses. Meanwhile, had 4 amalgams removed last week. 5 more to go in about 90 days.
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I use this product. My LLMD - well known in NY - believes in a more gentle chelation process. I take 4 pills with additional chorella every 3rd day. Plan is to do this for 6 months and repeat tests.
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mrpotto,
Ya my LLMD wants me to take it on weekends only.
Did you replenish with a nutrient/vitamin supplement?
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I take the Natures Way Alive! product every day. Here's a write up about it.
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When it comes to outstanding commercially-produced nutritional supplements, the list is rather short. Far too many vitamins and supplements on the shelves of stores are made from chemical ingredients rather than natural sources. Yet we all know that vitamins and minerals should always come from plant sources, not chemical factories.
Alive! is one supplement that gets it right. This supplement is so good that it's almost surprising it's so widely available. Its vitamins and minerals come from whole food and superfood sources that are nothing short of miraculous in their ability to prevent and even reverse chronic disease. Of course, the Alive! label can't make such claims, but the scientific literature is full of clinical studies showing that these superfoods are powerful agents in reversing chronic disease like cancer, diabetes, heart disease and many more.
(By the way, I only review products that I use myself and strongly recommend. These reviews are never paid. Nature's Way has no idea this review is even being written. This is not an ad or an infomercial, it's a 100% independent review of an outstanding nutritional supplement.)
Let's take a closer look at what's inside by starting with the primary ingredient group: the green foods blend. This blend includes both spirulina and chlorella -- both are potent disease-fighting superfoods I've covered in great detail in a free report you can read called Superfoods For Optimum Health: Chlorella and Spirulina. Spirulina, in particular, contains powerful anti-cancer phytochemicals. Chlorella contains CGF (Chlorella Growth Factor) that helps rebuild damaged nerve tissues. Both of these superfoods are rich in chlorophyll, which cleanse the blood and detoxify the liver. Spirulina is also an outstanding source of digestible protein. In fact, ounce per ounce, it has twelve times the digestible protein of beef!
The remainder of the green food blend includes barley grass, dandelion (an outstanding herb for supporting healthy liver function and controlling blood sugar), wheat grass (potent anti-cancer phytochemicals), and several other ingredients. In combination, they are extremely powerful disease fighters and promoters of good health.
Next, Alive! contains a blend of amino acids, primarily derived from the green foods already mentioned. Following that, each serving contains 100mg of a "Garden Veggies" blend, which is basically powdered garden vegetables like parsley, kale and spinach. This is an important ingredient because few people consume enough vegetables. And vegetables provide powerful phytochemicals that fight disease and support optimum health. Many of the vegetables contained in Alive! are well known to reverse cancer, for example. They're covered in the book, Eat to Beat Cancer by Ralph Moss. Of course, it's always best to get your vegetables in raw form, not as a supplement powder, but in reality, since most people don't eat sufficient quantities of vegetables, this supplement is a welcomed alternative.
The next ingredient group is the "Orchard Fruits" blend, which includes powdered cranberries, blueberries, plums, strawberries and other fruits. This is also a very important ingredient group because these fruits provide another powerful assortment of disease-fighting phytochemicals that aren't available anywhere else. As always, you'll do better if you actually eat these fruits in their raw form, but this supplement offers a convenient way to get these healing nutrients into your body regardless of whether you've eaten at a fruit buffet that day.
The next group of ingredients in Alive! is the "MycoDefense Mushroom Blend" which contains a mixture of medicinal mushrooms. They can't claim this on the label, but these are the mushrooms shown to boost immune system function and actually reverse cancer in many patients. There's been a tremendous amount of promising research conducted in Japan on these mushrooms, and a product made from them is regularly consumed by cancer patients in Japan. Beyond just cancer patients, anyone wishing to boost their immune system function would benefit from consuming these mushrooms. And there are many other health benefits beyond the scope of this short review.
Next on the ingredients list, you'll find 100mg of a digestive enzyme blend. This is a handy group of substances that helps your body assimilate the nutritive elements contained in all the other ingredients mentioned here.
Following that, you'll find 100mg of their "Omega Fatty Acid Seed Blend" which contains powders of flax seeds and sunflower seeds. You're probably well aware of the health benefits of omega-3 fatty acids and flax seeds, but in case you're not, the short version is that these are the "good fats" that support cardiovascular health and can even help reverse cardiovascular disease and many other disorders. Of course, there's not much oil in 100mg of dried flax seed powder, so don't consider this supplement to be a sufficient source of those oils. The fact that it contains flax seed powder is beneficial, but you definitely need more healthy oils than what you'll find here.
Lastly, Alive! contained a citris bioflavonoid complex, which offers yet another impressive array of immune system boosting phytochemicals.
If you put all this together, you have a rather impressive assortment of health-boosting, disease-busting plant-derived superfood ingredients that practically anyone would do well to add to their diet. There's not a person alive who wouldn't benefit from taking Alive!
The only problem with Alive! is that people don't take enough. The recommended daily dose is a mere 3 tablets a day. Personally, I take ten tablets, and that's on top of all the superfoods I take on the side. Alive! isn't a drug. It's food. You can't overdose with it. You could eat the entire bottle each day and be better for it. The recommended daily dose of 3 tablets is probably on the label to appease the FDA which doesn't want people to get too healthy from nutritional supplements because, after all, that would hurt the pharmaceutical trade if people actually started reversing their diseases through nutrition. But in reality, you can take as many of these tablets as you want. You can literally eat them like food because they are food.
One more thing: Alive! isn't necessarily the best value for your dollar when it comes to buying nutritional supplements. By my calculations, it comes out to around 26 cents per gram, which is roughly double the cost of buying chlorella and spirulina from my top recommended sources. Yet Alive! packs in a convenient array of other ingredients that add to its healing potency, so I think 26 cents a gram is certainly a fair price. You can shop around and find cheaper prices on isolated ingredients, but I don't think you'll find an all-in-one supplement like this one.
So who makes Alive? Nature's Way. They've been in the supplement business for years, and this is their best product yet. Highly recommended.
Where to get it: Any health food store, local or online.
What it's good for (here's the part the manufacturer can't tell you and the FDA doesn't want you to know): cancer, diabetes, heart disease, mental depression, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, digestive disorders, nervous system disorders, osteoporosis, obesity, malnutrition, Alzheimer's, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, liver disease, immune system function.
How much to take? this supplement is a food, not a drug. Personally, I take ten tablets each day. How much you take is up to you (check with your naturopathic physician).
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I too have been taking the Alive supplement, although it does little for heavy metal removal..
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DJF - I realize that Alive doesn't do much for heavy metal removal but I offered that up as an answer to canefan's question about what vitamins and supplements I take to replenish.
Take care,
Chris
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any more info/update on Chelex?
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