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Need your help!!! 6yr old girl has bulls eye rash on her back. Dr. says could be a bug or spider bite . Won't treat until blood work comes back and we all know what that will probably say.
2 yrs old brother now also has bulls eye rash.
Looking for any sites or words of wisdom (besides RUN to a LLMD!!!). Most of the sites I have found don't mention treating w/out a confirmed diagnosis.
Would appreciate any help! Don't want this family to go through what we are.
Thanks, everyone here is so great!!!
Kathy, as always Posts: 64 | From MA | Registered: Mar 2006
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If there is no central crusted black blister or crater formation than it is not a spider bite.
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I recommend taking a good photo of the rashes in question. for future reference.
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Go to another doctor NOW! Get her started on abx immedately before the bacteria takes over. Once blood work comes back its too late! It can be cured if you catch it withen the first few weeks. Don't wait!
And like jblral said its a good idea to take a picture of it.
My son had a bulleye rash that appeared before my eyes after he was bit from a deer fly. I immediately gave him my abx to get him started, then I took him to a LLMD. I wasn't going to wait and see what happens.... I know what happens! Its not fun.
BTW - he is still on abx a year later, and still herxing from them. LLMD says to keep him on abx until all symptoms are gone.
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Sorry you've read that in other places. But the doctor asking for the tests is not basing this on fact.
In early stage Lyme Disease, especially in the presence of EM, it is recommended that no tests are ordered. They are expensive, time consuming, and likely to be false negatives.
This is agreed upon by both Camp A, B, and anyone inbetween. A physcian who waits for results of blood testing in the presence of EM is in error.
He stands alone in this opinion, hopefully because he is uneducated.
Now, if he can proove the rash to be something else, let him proove that, not all rashes are Lyme related. But, in that case, make sure he makes a damned good scientific proof of his postulate that is it in fact not an EM.
On the other hand, if antibiotics will not matter regardless if its a spider bite, then the physician should treat. There is no reason to wait as waiting allows the disease to dessimate.
It is well noted that the disease can dissemate to the nervous sytem within one week. The time interval between infection and treatment seems to be at most 6 weeks to prevent late stage complications in almost all subjects.
Make sure the treatment is satisfactory, as early inappropriate treatment can lead later on to true seronegative Lyme, a well known phenomina. At least, I can say that all camps agree that early antibiotic treatment which is not satisfactory does in fact cause seronegative Lyme.
If you need CDC links, or skeptic Camp A type documents for proof, just ask.
Also, I echo the other sentiments, go find another doctor. This one is uneducated. A LLMD is best, but if you are unwilling, at least find someone who will treat an EM for a minimum of 21 days, though I personally prefer 6 weeks at the least.
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Here is the page of rash pictures from the Canadian site.
quote:Originally posted by Kentucky Girl: I think a bulls eye rash is a confirmed diagnosis.
Yes! It is!! and be sure to take a picture with a ruler next to it or a coin. You might also want to take one with a newspaper date next to it for proof of when it happened.
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Thanks for your advice and info. I have passed this on to the parents. I have also suggested they check out this board. You can get the greatest help here. Kathy as always, Posts: 64 | From MA | Registered: Mar 2006
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