oxygenbabe
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Which LLMD's are using Alinia? If anybody knows please let me know or PM me. I keep hearing rumors that it is starting to be used for lyme. Thanx.
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It was prescribed for me years ago in the early Lyme stages, and Dr. K. uses it all the time - addressing parasites, which inturn addresses everything else, because all the microbes hang out together. Parasites also hold unbelievable amounts of heavy metals! The fungi/yeast multiply in the presence of metals as a protection by the body ---
Parasites are a large part of the eco-system and if you want to get rid of the undesirables, you have to get rid of the parasites.
The only way out is the way through.
Alinia does that quite well. It is a tough med and be prepared for the onslaught of heavy metals when the parasites desintegrate. It is not a herxheimer. It is heavy metals flooding the system. So you must be prepared and show them the way out.
I think Dr. K. mentioned it in his lecture in SF in 2004.
Formerly known as Daxon. Now FDA approved, called Alinia. It has to be used longer and in larger quantities than the six pills in 30 days as "normal".
Take care.
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oxygenbabe
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Thanx Gudrun. I have a good feeling about it, just from what I'm hearing, but I know one has to cleanse one's system first so it can handle the die-off and metals.
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I actually heard it was being used for Babesia!
I will PM you the info.
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Hi Oxygen
Alaina was the first med that made me herx -
It deffinatly killed off something--
My LLMD gave it to me to increase chances of stiring up the bugs for tests to be accurate--
It may help with babs - It sure made my stomic work better--Jay--
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Thanx all and for PM's. I wish I could talk to some of the docs or get some better firsthand info. I'll try to and get back to y'all here in the next few weeks. It's a good drug from what I hear (strong).
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I have just finished two brutal weeks of alinia. LLMD Rx dosage was 2 500mg tabs taken twice a day with 1500mg tini. I am now vegetable lasagna. I have a dandelion smoothie daily and phoscol concentrate so I am rebounding but my high bacteria load made for unnesecary herx levels.
If the Rx dosage is 6tabs/mo, why was I doing 4 day in combo?
Yes GIGI, tough med.
quai
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Quai, I am glad you are still alive after that kind of protocol. Tinidazole alone is bad enough. I am glad you made it, but am not sure you did Alinia long enough. It depends on the parasite load, but is done for 20 days in this type of situation.
"if the Rx dosage is 6tabs/mo, why was I doing 4 day in combo?"
6tabs/mo === just like doing a hundred mg of doxy for 3 weeks for Lyme and get cured. I have not heard ever of doing it in that combination.
I would not go without colonics afterward., spacing them with 3-4-5 days in between. You will have die-off for several months. Expect it, but help it along and out.
During and after a parasite treatment, many other neurotoxins are being released. Not to be ignored.
It is a good med - it gets to the parasites in the brain. Didn't know we had them there until I was told and shown.
Take care.
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Quai, was your LLMD prescribing it for lyme? Or babesia? Seems strange to do only a 2 week protocol. I would be interested in hearing more about that. Thanx. Hope you are feeling better.
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GiGi, did Dr. K find the parasites in your brain on an MRI, or via ART?
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Foggy, Yes, he can locate them with ART. I did not have that problem, but others close to me did. I also know of a patient with worms exiting through various orifices above the neck.
Don't eat Sushi.
Take care.
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I have twice tested neg for Babs, have everything else and the Babs may show eventually.
I am sure it is a great med. Don't reccomend combos to begin, and go slow to start.
I will return to it and do it per GIGI, longer and by itself.
Feeling a bit better, thank you.
quai
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Alinia is not used for Babesia, per se.
It is used when too many parasites are present. Alinia is the last (or later drug) for parasites. First a cleanup with Arise & Shine; then Sputnik; then Albendazole/Biltrizide for the smaller parasites; Alinia comes last.
I will say that any protozoa, such as Babesia, may fall into that eco-asystem. But the main attack with Alinia is directed at Parasites.
That's what I have heard and been told for years.
Take care.
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While typically used as a parasite killer, the drug is thought to have some effect on bacterial infections, namely, it is suspected of being a cyst buster. The same way Plaquenil is.
You don't need parasites for your LLMD to consider it.
It's one of those drugs that were originally formulated for a specific problem and were discovered later to be beneficial for many other medical conditions.
I did a parasite cleanse a while ago, and I never felt better.
Alinia is part of my new protocol (starting tomorrow). After 18 months of treatment with up and down results, I'm game.
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GiGi
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With all that said, I do not want to leave the impression that Alinia is a harmless drug.
It is being discussed at different seminars, where Lyme is always a major subject. I dug back into my piles of paper and brain, and here are my notes when Daxon/Alinia was brought up:
People have been seen who were given too- aggressive worm treatment too early-on, and they developed seizure disorders from the worm dying off in the brain (picture of calcified worm in brain). That's why the point was made that first using natural therapies to seduce the worms to leave where they are, to go for the food in the gut and leave. They are supposed not to mature in the brain; they are only supposed to be in the larvae stage there. Daxon/Alinia is a drug used for killing the larvae stage in the brain, and it works great for young people with psychotic disorders.....very often there are worms in the brain.
Daxon/Alinia mentioned as an amazing drug. With Daxon, on day 3, help should be available (a certain steroid) to prevent the enormous symptoms from the die-off effect ).
This is info I took down in 2004. I am not aware that the method is any different today. Max 21 days - I remember.
The hard thing in parasite treatment is the die-off effect. When you kill them, you kill them in the brain, in the heart, wherever they are. They live in the lymphatic system, and it plugs you up. So it often needs to be accompanied with lymph drainage massage, exercise, and with other things some people are not capable of doing.
That's enough about these invaders, but whoever enters into that arena, should be aware of.
Take care.
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oxygenbabe
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Thanx, Gigi, very very interesting.
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See - all this is making me paranoid about giving it to my 13 year old daughter. She tested positive for RMSF, but one of her doctors thinks she may have Lyme and wants her to start taking it. I am extremely nervous about the side effects of this drug. She's been through so much already.
Any thoughts?
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I was told it was a cyst buster - a possible alternative to Tini or Flagyl.
Jill
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