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Anyone else? The breast pains are diffuse and bilateral and pretty painful, unlike anything I have ever had. No lumps, just diffuse sore breasts. Last about 12 hours.
They only happen at the end of my 3 week antibiotic cycle when I do IV Vit C 50 gm (with Magnesium) 3 days in a row in the 4th week.
I wonder if after the antibiotics, the lymph system is dealing with the endotoxin cleanup, but that doesn't explain why the high dose vitamin C triggers the pain, rather than relieve the pain.
Any ideas? I searched the archives and I see other women who describe diffuse breast pain, but nothing in relationship to Vitamin C. Is Marnie in the audience?
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kelmo
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When I have had those pains, they usually start under the armpit and shoot outward. Very painful. My doc told me it was a vitamin E deficiency. So, I started taking 400IU daily and it has really helped.
Hope that helps you.
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I was told that high dose vit c via iv has antibacteria properties. Could to be that the vit c is penetrating and area that abx have not, and you are getting die -off?
It's just a thought to ponder.
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Hi mtnwoman,
I have had breast pains that started under the arm pit like kelmo, but it was from herxing on doxy/mino. I also had the pains as lyme symptoms.
I do the Vit C IV, but no breast pain with it, funny thing though is a doc here in Mi says doxy and mino are chelaters of mercury, so maybe it kinda the same thing? I don't know.
I will pay attention if I get this symptom next time I do the Vit C IV.
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Be careful with the IV C! Those pains are not good, i had the same experience and the C inded up messing up my insulin receptors. Too much IV C is not a good idea. I did up to 100 grams and it almost killed me, i went into shock from low blood sugar. The reading was 16 on the glucose meter. Vitamin C can be mistaken by the body for insulin and really ^&*%^ you up!
Its not a good idea to do so much of it. I did hundreds of IV C for supposed viruses before I knew i had Lyme, and it did nothing but cost money and burn my veins.
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IV Vitamin C should be done in D5W to prevent the hypoglycemic reaction and many docs even suggest their patients eat a protein bar while doing the IV's.
I give hubby IV Vitamin C drips 1 or 2 times per week. Use 25 grams -- have done this for about 3 years now.
When he did IV Rocephin -- his 1st antibiotic --I did the IV's 6 days a week immediately after the antibiotic IV's -- felt it helped with detox.
Before the Rocephin -- worked up to the 25 gram dose over several weeks -- actually was 1 of only 3 times hubby has had a rash while in treatment. Do believe the Vitamin C has some antibacterial actions.
The other use for IV Vitamin C is to support the adrenals. Before the Rocephin hubby actually got an energy boost from the IV's when he was doing them daily at a sufficient dose.
If I remember correctly the brain has higher Vitamin C concentrations than any other part of the body.
Mtnwoman,
My guess would be some sort of lymphatic blockage that is causing the pain. Could try slowing down the speed at which the IV is infused to see if that would help. Would also suggest a lymphatic massage or could try tincture of red root (discussed in the Healing Lyme book).
The Vitamin E is generally recommended as one treatment for fibrocystic breast disease.
Also, might try just doing the Vitamin C by itself or the magnesium by itself. It may be the combo that is the problem. I generally give these as separate IV's to hubby -- do 3 or 4 grams of magnesium about once a week.
Bea Seibert
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WildCondor
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The D5W did not help the situation and only made it worse! Vit C did nothing but cost money! Its supposed to help the immune system but you can take it orally.
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I have had really good results from IV-C, but never had quite as high the dosage that you are having, nor as close together. I usually give myself a week in between at least. I have never had breast pain like you describe from the IV-C either.
I always eat a protein bar while I am taking the infusion, and take horse chestnut supplements to help maintain vascular health. No problems ever, other than herxing from the antibiotic properties.
Good luck.
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Thanks folks for your ideas. Perhaps I didn't make clear, the diffuse breast pains happen after the IV infusion -- are usu worse a few hours afterwards.
And they do not radiate from the armpit -- they seem purely in breast tissue, including the nipple.
I don't particularly feel benefits from the IV's to Lyme so I may dispense with them anyhow. I had access to some inexpensive ones and just wanted to try them.
A friend with Lyme takes them and feels worse, which she takes to mean that they are helping -- you know the story.
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