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Lymetoo
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Are these the "bad guys"?? They're wanting those recently dxd with Lyme to donate plasma.

http://www.life-diagnostics.com/Product/Default.asp?MenuID=236&RefMenuID=219&TopMenuID=222&LeftMenuID=236

[ 26. June 2006, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: Lymetoo ]

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I don't know- I just clicked on it because you posted it. [Big Grin]

I'm kind of glad there is not a collection site near me- or I would be tempted. 400 bucks a week! Maybe we wouldn't have to go to the local food pantry!
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Well, if it's only going to be used to help the Steerites make a vaccine, I wouldn't care if it's next door, I wouldn't do it!

Just wondering if anybody knew about this.

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How do you find out the real purpose???? I agree- if it's promoted by the bad guys I really don't mind canned peas at all.

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A little time spent researching the site might bring up some clues as to who is behind it. I was hoping someone knew about it.

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It sounds like they want to try and make a vaccination or something with the antibodies?? I guess they want to try and make money from us huh?

They got a lot of nerve!

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Yeah TUTU,

I saw something about this a couple months back......

Don't think it is Steere and company...

However I did'nt do a lot of research cuz I'm a chronic lymie...

I could use a new bowling ball too...400.00 is a lot o loot!.....LOL

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It says: plasma, which contains lyme antibodies, is supplied to manufacturers of diagnostic test kits.

An LLMD was recently discussing that the serum they receive in the testing kits used at some laboratories comes from Spain and is not from the US, so it would be less likely to pick up US strains. I wonder where IGX gets their serum from for testing. I suspect Dr. Harris would be interested in this. Maybe someone could contact him and ask about this.

I found this on the company website. It says that Life Diagnostics is a division of Life Theraputics.

"Life Diagnostics provides highly specialized diagnostic tests for blood clotting disorders and source plasma products for blood-borne diseases. Technologies include specialized blood coagulation tests to predict the risk of thrombosis and and bleeding disorders. With our innovative donor management system, Life Diagnostics is able to identify and collect high-titer source plasma and serum essential to manufacture diagnostic test kits.

Above all, our goal is to improve human life by providing high quality diagnostic tests that assist the medical community in treating life-threatening diseases.

For more information on Life Diagnostics, please contact us at [email protected]

For more information on our diagnostic tests, or to order Life Diagnostics' diagnostics products, please contact our Sales Department in Australia at +1 800 500 108 or [email protected].

For more information on our source plasma products, or to order Life Diagnostics' source plasma products, please contact our Sales Department in the United States at 1-800-338-8011 or [email protected]"

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Doesn't look too bad (that's not to say it supports our camp). It is a public company in Australia, listed on their public market (equivalent of NASDAQ or New York Stock Exchange).

About LIFE THERAPEUTICS LIMITED:
Life Therapeutics (ASX: LFE.AX) (PNK: LFEFY) (PNK: LFEFF) is an international company with 450 employees, located in Australia and the United States with manufacturing operations in both countries and 13 plasma donor centers in eight American states. Life Therapeutics recently established its U.S. American Depositary Receipt (ADR) Level I program which enables trading in Life Therapeutics shares by U.S. based investors and is an important step toward the company's ultimate objective of achieving a full listing on NASDAQ stock exchange. The company's four divisions are all headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia, and include: Life Sera, Life Gels, Life Diagnostics, and Life Manufacturing.

Primary Activity:
Research, development, manufacture and marekting of separation and haemostasis technologies for the life science markets.

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It takes a LOT of "donations" to capture ENOUGH antibodies to supply IVIG to help fight.

Someone with a lot of $ maybe trying to obtain this very $ treatment.

Does it work?

Well...

Arch Phys Med Rehabil. 2003 Sep;84(9):E34-E35. Related Articles, Links

"Return of muscle strength and function after use of intravenous immunoglobulin for Lyme disease-associated acute demyelinating polyneuropathy.
Patient: A 58-year-old man with babesiosis and Lyme disease.

At follow-up 8 weeks later, muscle strength had fully returned.

Discussion: This case illustrates that Lyme disease-associated demyelinating polyneuropathy may be treated with IVIG. The potential use of IVIG in this population is based on its efficacy in those with acute demyelinating neuropathy of alternative etiologies. Conclusion: IVIG can be considered as a treatment option for demyelinating polyneuropathy associated with Lyme disease. "

PMID: 13680780

The above link no longer works which is very puzzling since it was a ``cut and paste'' on my part. If whoever is reading this has access to a hard copy of this journal, I urge that person to find it and copy it. The Sept. 2003 issue of that journal may be found in hospital or medical school libraries.

So much for freedom of information!


P.S. If you have early lyme, you need all the healthy antibodies you possibly have YOURSELF. Don't give them away!

Most are damaged anyway...fab portion. Picture a stalk of broccoli. The fab portion is up at the top. This is damaged. Antibodies have to be "perfect" in order to work. If they are imperfect, this triggers TNF alpha (inflammation) BECAUSE ONE, I repeat, ONE of TNF alpha's jobs is to get rid of IMPERFECT antibodies.

Our own antibodies are not "perfect" fighters against Bb, why?

"Characterization of the physiological requirements for the bactericidal effects of a monoclonal antibody to OspB of Borrelia burgdorferi by confocal microscopy.

The bactericidal effect of Fab-CB2 is not dependent on the induction of spirochetal proteases but is dependent on

the presence of Ca2+ and Mg2+.

Supplementation of Ca2(+)- and Mg2(+)-free medium with these cations restored the bactericidal effects of Fab-CB2.

The mechanism by which a Fab fragment of an antibody destroys a bacterium directly may represent a novel form of antibody-organism interaction. "

PMID: 9125579

A ``novel form of antibody-organism interaction?'' I don't THINK so!

"E. Required by immunological process. Magnesium, immunity, and allergy: Mg is required for several steps of immunological reactions
1. Lymphoblastic transformation, a prerequisite of secretion of antibodies by lymphoblasts, requires Ca2+ and Mg2+
2. Mg is required for synthesis of proteins, immunoglobulins included (these are antibodies)
3. Antibody-induced complement activation is Mg dependent
4. The antigen-immunoglobulin-complement reaction induces degranulation of the mastocyte

http://www.mdschoice.com/elements/elements/major_minerals/magnesium.htm

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