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After five days of taking 4 gms of C and Salt I found a bug in the TOILET!!!!! This thing looks like a small octopus. It has a head that was about 1/4'' ball with legs about 3/4'' long. There are a bunch of legs to many to count and the legs are fury!!! The thing is very delicate looking. I saved it. I found it after I flushed. It didn't go down because it wants to float.
I find this very gross. What the heck is that thing doing in my body? I am really having a hard time with this thing coming out of body. Very hard to accept that something big is living in me. None of teh stool cultures have shown this maybe because they look for the WRONG type of BUG!!!!
Lymephotos.com says that "things" or bugs will come out of the body. Those people had things come out their bodies. So now I have seen stuff coming out of my body.
Last night my nephew did an OCCIPITAL FIBER adjustment on me. He is a Chiropractor. These fibers attach to the bottom of the skull in the back of the head. He determined that the ones for the liver and pancreas were out of place and proceeded with about 45 mins of reflex massage, pancreas massage and adjustment to help the problem. I think this helped. The method was established by Major Bertrand DeJarnette.
Take care,
John
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Are you sure the bug wasn't in the tiolet before you went? Just curious.
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Yes. I was the only one using the bathroom. I get up at 4am, well that's when I get up to go to work. Last night I got up to pee at least 3 times and it was just me using the toilet the whole time. No one uses that bathroom and no else is up when I get up for work.
This thing is UGLY. The head is dark brown almost black and the legs are brown and move real easy if the water pushes them. The legs sort of "flow" with the water. It looks very delicate as if it would break if one tried to pick it up. It is so gross.
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It's going to start to spoil and rot soon.
You should get a good close up picture for future reference. You might be able to freeze it in a plastic baggie to preserve it.
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I think the first thing for you to do is get it and freeze it.
That is not a lyme spirochete. It could be any number of things that are /not/ some sort of parasite. The only way to know for sure is to have it tested.
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Hello John,
You need to take this thing to the state diagnostic laboratory. Call your physician and ask where it's located. It would be best to send it overnight express.
Do you live near a university? If so, take it to the parasitology department for identification.
It may help to take it to a local veterinarian because parasites are parasites.
You can get a small bottle of formaldehyde from your veterinarian...to preserve the specimen. Don't put it in alcohol or water. Freezing is a good idea, but it will turn to mush and you won't be able to examine it when it thaws.
I agree with the previous writer, take photos with a ruler in the view. Take pictures of it head on, sideways, and any way that looks different.
This sounds like nothing I ever studied in parasitology. Do you think it's possible to be some type of mass or tumor with "roots". What color is it? Do you see eyes, a mouth, or other specific body parts?
Could it be a spider that was in the wrong place at the wrong time? Some spiders have furry legs. They can hide up under the rim of the bowl. You wouldn't see it until it was too late. When they drown, they can curl up like a ball.
It must not be as delicate as it sounds, or it would have been shredded in your digestive system. Roundworms and pinworms usually come out whole. Tapeworms might come out whole, but are usually in segments.
Have you been out of the country & aquired some foreign parasite?
Please don't toss this in the garbage. Inquiring minds want to know what it is.
Be sure to watch for more...don't flush until you look. I know...gross, but informative.
Can you post a picture of it?
Nancy
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Yes, let's see a picture. Would be very interesting...
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Have you ever seen the show on the Discovery channel about parasites in the body? Talk about GROSS! Its seems most of the people on the show picked up their parasites in foreign countries. While watching I was waiting for them to mention lyme but they didn't.
ONe guy even had a bug growing in the skin on his belly. He had been bitten by some kind of fly that left behind an egg. He let it grow and then finally had to get in surgically removed. He even gave it a name. Not sure if the worm that was removed was more gross then the guy.....
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Hi Lymeindunkirk,
This is very common in the US. Aren't you glad to know that?
Certain flies lay eggs on cattle, horses, and dogs & cats.
You will see small yellowish-white eggs on the legs of horses. The horse bites off the eggs and swallows them. The eggs hatch, then the larvae attach to the stomach lining.
The larvae migrate in the animal's body...to the backs of horses & cattle. The larva grows quite large & finally drops out of the hole. It eventually morphs into a fly.
The larvae are called bots. They're short & fat & have spiny bodies.
Cats & dogs can get them too. You'll see a swelling in the skin, with a breating hole. If you keep watching you'll eventually see the white larva moving around in the hole. They get bigger, then eventually drop out of the skin. Sometimes these spots get infected.
A maggot is just a fly larva. Larval flies are gross, but interesting.
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eeeewwwwwwoooooooo!!!!
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Lyme spirochetes are microscopic and cannot really be seen. You can, however, see parasites as they are eliminated. Perhaps this is what you saw.
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its possible that one can shed the intestinal lining with very high doses of salt. i don't know the dose and duration of that dose to have this come about.
consider a test for epithial and other kinds of tissue, to rule out this effect of high salt intake.
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Up for John
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Good grief.
John, I hope you do whatever you need to do in order to FIND OUT WHAT THIS IS.
And then let us know, of course.
Assuming it is a parasite of some kind, I would love to see you post a picture.
The docs around here think that only people in 3rd World countries have parasite problems.
Tracy
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Thanks for the advice. If you what I can e-mail the photo I took. I do not know how to post a picture on this site. I think most people will not want to see this. One person in my family wanted to see the photos and NO ONE wanted to see IT. Send me a message with your address.
The pictures I took are in a dixy cup that is cut down. The "THING" is very thin as far as I can tell. It just conforms to a thin layer of water. It is brown or tan or dark brown.
Some of the legs detached at the head when I was pouring it from one cup to another after taking the photos.
I have it the refirgerator now and I think it will be okay until the 24th when I go to my doctor.
You now I am glad that there is a voice of reason out there that comes thru, BRAIN FOG $uck$. Yes calling and finding someone to analize this would be good.
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Say what?
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My doctor is sending it out. No comments on what it was. It will be awhile fro results. I asked about getting some Scan-Eectron-Microscope pictures of the head but he thought that was not possible. I would like to have seen if the head was a spiroket mutation.
To me it looks like something that draws food from a fluid stream. The head part would be attached to the intestine wall and the legs flow in the fluid stream removing nutrients.
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Good job, John! So glad that somebody will be checking this "critter" out. Or maybe it is a colony of "somethings"..... very curious.
Well, let us know what you learn.
Tracy
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up for answers
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John, where are you and what did you find out?
Tracy
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I have pmed him several times nothing back ???
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I don't mean to spoil the exceitment, but it sounds kind of like a "wet spider". Maybe it was hiding under the rim of the toilet and fell in while you were doing your business.
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maybe it was a commodo dragon...
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Okay....EWWWWWWWEWWWWWEEWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWW! Wow. just had to get that out. However I am interested and would like to hear whether that thing was a wet spider, comodo dragon or just to hear what on earth it was! But eeewwwww. Ew. Ew ew ew. ew.
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Is this an example of what a troll does? Wastes everyones precious time for a kicks?
OR
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Well, if he's a troll he's been popping in and out since at least May of 2004. Most trolls don't have that kind of attention span, do they?
Tracy
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Hey guys,
I saw John's photo of this thing. It looked like a mass of algae in the shape of a little octopus. This appears to be a real organism.
I think he's for real. I've corresponded with him.
Nancy
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Wow, very interesting Nancy.
Maybe John is busy being ``debriefed'' by the Men in Black.... or ``flashed'', in which case he won't even remember this topic.
Tracy
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All I can say is I inquired for him at 4 different places and only one responded to me about the pic they needed to see the otherside of the organisim so I emailed this john over and over no responce other than he said his llmd was sending it to a lab to be checked out and thats all I have heard from him. Ps I searched the internet for a few days and came up wiyh close pics but not the same size . So I hope he's alright?
If anyone knows this man personaly they should tell us whats up???
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Hey folks....
Did any of you get emails about the dreaded australian,african,brazilian or wherever poisonous spider that lives under yer toilet seat!
I suggest this is just a trolls modification of that hoax!
Not even an original!
Lazy trolls....zman
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It was not a BUG. Not a bug at all. It was undigested FOOD!!!!! Rethinking about the results it is possible that it part of an orange.
I have really good news too!!!
I am much better. This is the ninth week of salt and vita-C, 4 grams each per day. Herxing on schedule and strange pains that come and then go.
I like my new doc. I am taking DHEA 10mg, L-Carnitine and Questran.
Take care,
John
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Hey, I thought it was probably a wet spider when I first read about it too...but when you see the picture you'll realize it's no spider.
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Hi, John -
Thanks for posting about the "mystery organism". We were all beginning to wonder what happened to you.
Also, thanks for posting about your progress on the Salt/C protocol. Good for you!
Tracy
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Where did you hear of this salt/c protocal?
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Hey John....
Do me a favor huh!?
How about deleting this thread and starting a new one on saltC so I can criticize it on page one!
It would save some time for the folks.
Thanks zman
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