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I was on the phone with Bowen and I was trying to get a good doc who can handle multiple issues including heavy metals . ..
Well I got the name of this nurse and she went into great detail of a few things that are of concern to me.
She told me that it was no wise to do ANY heavy metals cleansing with lyme . .due to the fact that it it binds to the Bb. I have lots of heavy metals now and I am on a protocol for it. . and I am worried the metals are going to be mobilized in my brain.
Can anyone comment on this ? Is it safe to do this detox . . ?
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SForsgren
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It is a difficult area and I hope that GiGi will provide her thoughts. One thing I would comment on is that if the metals are bound to the Bb and you kill the Bb, you have metals now floating around. So you likely need some mop-up agents like chlorella, etc. to ensure that you are getting them excreted from the body as much as possible. Thus, a Bb killing program without a constant metal mop-up (binding, not a program necessarily to mobilize even more) is where you may have issues with metals getting into places that you do not want.
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I think I fully agree with Scott about metals. I do think chlorella helps immensely if taken in right amounts. Once you kill the pathogens, lack of chlorella will make you feel awful.
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i am confused....i understand not killing BB til you cleanse metals...but how come you can't cleanse metals first? If mercury is bound to Bb and you clean up mercury, how is metal getting deposited?? isn't it the Bb that's let loose?
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See the Metals page on my site. I mention how I do the chlorella there. Be well
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Mercury actually does not bind to Borrelia. All the microbes (Lyme and other bacteria, viruses, fungi, mold, parasites) settle in the mercury contaminated areas of the body.
Unless you detox heavy metals thoroughly, the chances that you will get Lyme under control are slim.
If you have a good doctor who is familiar with heavy metal toxicity, he/she will know what to do first or do both treatments at the same time. Dr. K. treats the heavy metals and works in the treatment for the microbes alongside. The emphasis in any case is on the heavy metals.
Unless you eliminate the bulk of heavy metals, overcoming Lyme is rather difficult. Metals are often the underlying cause why the microbial infections cannot be eliminated.
Reason:
the cells of the body are harmed by toxic metals whereas the invading microorganisms can often thrive in a heavy metal environment.
Research by Ludwig, Voll and others in Germany, by Omura and Klinghardt here in the US, showed that microorganisms tend to set up their housekeeping in those body compartments that have the highest pollution of heavy metals. The body's own immune cells are incapacitated in those areas whereas the microorganisms multiply and thrive in an undisturbed way. The teeth, jawbone, Peyers patches in the gutwall, the groundsystem (connective tissue) and the autonomic ganglia are common sites of metal storage - where microorganisms thrive.
Furthermore, those body areas also are vasoconstricted and hypoperfused (by blood, nutrients and oxygen), which fosters the growth of anaerobic germs, fungi and viruses. The do not need oxygen to survive and multiply.
Chlorella is very necessary as a mop-up agent, as Scott said. But you cannot detox heavy metals from any intravellular spaces with Chlorella. It is not really a mobilizing agent. For this you need DMPS and DMSA, along with some supporting agents. Everything has to be working together. DMPS alone will not remove it, DMSA will not. Which agents to use is determined by the location where the metals are hanging out. If you have someone that does ART testing or a sound form of muscle testing, that will help decide what to first, what to use. ART can determine the location of the metals and is therefore of much help. It takes the guessing out of it.
Heavy metal removal is a tricky task. I would not suggest that anyone try it on their own. You will be thoroughly disappointed if you find years later that the metals are still with you and you are still sick. There is no way to get well with heavy metals in the body. It is impossible once the immune system has reached the point of chronic disease.
Anyone with a chronic disease most likely has the underlying problem of heavy metal and chemical toxicity. Just in case anyone is wondering: Besides it being in amalgam, it is used as a fungicide in seed and grain, in several diuretis, teething powders, homeopathics, in glues, band-aids, estrogen skin patches, etc., in dyes (pink dye in partials and dentures, amalgam fillings 50%, mercurochrome and other skin disinfectants, thermometers and industrial gauges, vaccines (ethyl mercury), eye drops.
By-products in chlorine manufacturing (100s of tons every year in the US alone, coal burning power plants and crematoriums. (In Switzerland amalgam fillings have to be removed from deceased person before allowing to cremate.)
Recycling into human body from contaminated food, water and air.
Aquatic plants (kelp, seaweed, all fish, ocean mammals at the end stage of mercury contaminated water (waste water).
Each step in the food chain from one animal to the next higher one concentrates mercury 10,000 times!!!
Fallout from the air has now contaminated even the most remote streams in the Himalayas.
A tiny amount of mercury in the brain has catastrophic effects on the rest of the body.
If you have trouble walking ---- heavy metals move if not detoxed properly and end up anywhere, including the feet! Gravity. The bugs move in also.
Try to get it out of your body as fast as you can. Prepare yourself to thinking years rather than a couple of months. It is impossible.
Don't do it yourself. Mercury is moved into the brain very readily by doing it the wrong way. It is tricky to do it right with the help of the best doctor. Believe me, I have done it. And I see people coming in often that have gone through months and years of the wrong detoxing. The trouble with mercury is that the bugs in the bowel convert metallic mercury to methyl mercury, which is much more toxic and much more absorbed and does a lot of damage.
If you are detoxing and the metals have been mobililized, IV Vitamin C is necessary, colonics are necessary, lymphatic drainage is super necessary, and taking Chlorella or Destroxin, Chitosan, Cholestyramine, Pectin, lots of fiber cleanses, etc. Lymphatic drainage is a must so that the eliminating organs do not get overloaded. Liverlife and Renelix (for liver and kidneys), etc.
The Chlorella should be taken 30 minutes before meals. (A handful before every meal, if you tolerate it). It is explained in my posts on Chlorella.
Often people have become allergic to mercury and are therefore unable to release it and the allergy has to be treated first. Dr. K. does it with a homeopathic that he prepares (for 6 weeks). When the allergy is broken, your body is able to release the metals if the proper agents are used and used wisely.
Hope that helps a bit.
Take care.
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