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farah
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Hi Everyone,

I wanted to post the things that have helped me to heal from Lyme for people who are newer to this board. I used mostly natural medicine, but I did also use antibiotics, but have been off of them for a couple of years now.

I consider myself to be at 100% (or maybe 99.999...%) now, with the need to take some supplements for general maintenance.

I lead a normal life now. I may occasionally have some ephemeral twinges every couple of months, but if I do the things I know to do, they go away. My life is active and normal, and I am mentally and physically sound again.

Here are some of the things that helped me:

1. Essential oils, diluted, used externally. I used a combination of eucalyptus, frankincense, patchouli, lemon, lavender, thyme, and geranium, and sometimes added bay laurel.

2. Essential oils, diluted, and taken a 3-5 drops at time internally.

3. Niacin: 300-1500 milligrams

4. N-Acetyl Cysteine: 1500 milligrams

5. Celery Seed Extract: 3000 milligrams

6. Yunan Baiyao: 1/3 to 1 vial per day. It helped my circulation and hypercoagulation issues.

7. Serraflazyme: 5 tablets/day.

8. Minocycline for a year and a half: 200 milligrams.

9. I.V. Rocephin: I only had a two week course in 2003, and many symptoms came back after without doing other things.

10. Core synchronism or cranialsacral bodywork: this really helped my neuro symptoms in combination with the essential oils.

11. Deep tissue body work: hurts like hell but breaks up the areas that feel scarred where the disease tends to congregate and hide out. It works well in combo with the essential oils.

12. Heat: I used a far infrared heat lamp on trouble spots on my body, and I took hot baths for forty minutes daily. I also put essential oils in my bathwater. I used saunas whenever I had the opportunity.

13. Exercise when I felt up to it as I felt better. Hot yoga, chi gung, belly dancing, general stretching, long walks.

14. Flower essences for emotional, mental and energetic support.

15. I took St. John's wort, valerian, and skullcap when my psychiatric/emotional symptoms were worse three years ago, in combination with external use of the essential oils on my head.

At present, I am only on the celery seed, niacin, NAC, and serraflazyme. All of the other things I mentioned helped me along the way, though.

Farah

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Thanks for the update Farah. It is so helpful when people post after they get well. I have had LD for 17 years, just diagnosed last year, and am still debating whether to do abx. What percentage of your recovery do you think is due to taking abx?

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Hi Farah

thanks for sharing what has helped you [Smile]

can I ask what does the celery seed extract do?

And also I have heard alot about N-Acetyl Cysteine. is this for energy?

hope you continue to feel better [Smile]

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Hi Dana,
Hi Gwen,

The N-Acetyl Cysteine improves the body's immune response, because it is a precursor for glutathione, but it is much more inexpensive.

It also seems to have its own strong antimicrobial effect against bacteria and perhaps viruses also, because in doses of 1500-3000 milligrams/day, it has also helped people with HIV.

I have found it to be very effective for me in combination with something to help the hypercoagulation issue (Yunan Baiyao or serrapeptase).

The celery seed extract has traditionally been used to treat gout and other arthritic conditions. It is a powerful alkalizer, and reduces acidity and inflammation in the body.

It is also diuretic, so it is best to drink lots of water and supplement with potassium or potassium rich foods when taking it.

It has also recently been found to have some component, I forget the name of it, that is supposed to promote circulation and tone the cardiovascular system.

The main reason I keep taking it, though, is that it seems to interfere with the bacteria's ability to form cysts and protect itself. I have not had trouble with the bacteria hiding out in cysts much at all since I have started taking it.

It also seems to clear the joints and cartilege(I can't tell if I spelled that right) of the disease, which tend to be some other lasting hideouts otherwise. I think the celery seed extract also diminished the negative aspect of herxes for me.

How much of my improvement feels like it was due to the antibiotics?

I definitely had a huge scary brain and heart herx on the rocephin, and I think it did kill off some keets in the first few days I took it. Then it felt like the bacteria were walling themselves off again.

I did feel like the minocycline treated the Lyme better than other antibiotics did for me, because it penetrated the nervous system better than some other oral antibiotics.

With any antibiotics I took, I felt that they had some good killing action at first, and then the bacteria learned to hide and wall itself off from them. It felt like they froze the disease where it was, more than strongly improving my condition overall.

But they were a reliable way to feel well enough to work, instead of going up and down, the way I had been when I just used natural stuff, so they definitely had their place.

There was a point though after about a year and a half, where I felt like they were just making me feel more toxic, which is when I started trying to wean myself off, and looking for more alternative options.

I had not taken the essential oils orally up to that point, because that is not how they are typically used in this country. I had only used them externally.

I had also not used a lot in the way of herbs initially, because they did not work rapidly enough to put a dent in my situation, when I was really, really ill, but I introduced them as I weaned myself off the antibiotics, because my status at that point was much better than when I was at my worst.

That is when I took the Yunan Baiyao, and the NAC. It was the combo of the essential oils used internally, the Yunan Baiyao, and the NAC that allowed me to totally get off of the antibiotic, and to continue to progress while working.

I would say either antibiotics, or strong natural antimicrobial treatment is imperative. It takes natural things longer to work sometimes, except for the oils, so I think the antibiotics are a good option when immediate help is needed. Then a you can slowly moving to natural remedies by taking them and giving them time to build up in your system.

I am better now, but I can assure you I had a lot of terrifying herxes along the way, and it took years to get here. So I am not suggesting it is easy, but these are things I found genuinely effective.

You can get better, but this disease makes you pay for each step forward and each improvement made. It is possible, though. I don't know that I am cured yet, but I lead a normal life now, and I take the same amount of supplements now that many healthy health nuts who have no health problems take, so I am happy with that.

Farah

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Farah, I'm glad you're better.
What kind of thyme did you use since it supposedly is toxic to the liver?
Its amazing it took you that many years, and that much abx and alt med, when if I remember, you caught it early on.

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Thanks Farah for sharing your story and suggestions on what helped to heal you! Bettyg [Big Grin]
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So glad to hear you are well now, [Smile]

And thank you for sharing what directions you took on your road to recovery.

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Farah,

Thanks so much for sharing, it is really good to hear that you are well and that it can indeed be done.

I've done orals and IM for a year now and the same thing has happened each time I attempted to stop for alternative treatments. It was about three to four weeks and relapse came in. I've been abx free for about a month but things are coming back, taking me out of commission.

I am fighting now to get the IV rocephin as I feel strongly that this will help. I went to a neuro who told me he thinks I need at least six months of it, but he was not willing to write the home health care nurse order due to the political climate, so I am still searching out how to get the treatment I need. How confusing!

In the meantime, I started minocycline today so it is good to hear that worked for you.

I am going to stop working soon, but hearing your story makes me know that with time, I will be well again.

PS. Where or how do you get the celery seed...is it in pill form??? I was looking for that today.

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Thanks Farah! [Smile]

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So good to hear a success story. We don't get enough of those.

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Hi Everyone,

The essential oils are processed by the liver, but my impression after using them is that chemical antibiotics are far more toxic than the oils are. Thyme is very potent, and I therefore used it in the smallest quantity.

I also used it in combination with lemon essential oil, which contains limonene, which is supposed to be potent for detoxing the liver and gallbladder. I used the typical thymus vulgaris phenotype, but thyme linalol is milder.

I caught the illness within a year of the tick bite, but I had co-infections, and the newspaper in Albany that year reported that the strain of Lyme that was infecting people that year was particularly awful.

I also don't know if I had been infected previously, and this last bite was the straw that broke the camel's back, and triggered the long cascade of symptoms.

I had symptoms that many people don't get until many years into the disease process. For whatever reason, the disease progressed and disseminated very rapidly for me, which is why I consider it even more miraculous that I am better now.

I get the celery seed extract from www.vitaminshoppe.com. I get the serraflazyme there too.

I do think the rocephin and minocycline are good against Lyme, but I think it is good to do some other things while taking them to detox the liver, and to increase the penetration of the antibiotics into the tissues. Heat, exercise, and herbs can be good for that.

Farah

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Thanx Farah.
I bought a boatload of essential oils recently from naturesgift.com and another source--a guy in Turkey, I forget his name, came highly recommended and oversees the steam distillation etc, and is really into oregano oil.

I haven't done much with them yet. I did some reading of medical aromatherapy texts.

Melissa officinalis essential oil--I had a strong feeling that would be an effective spirochetal oil. Don't know why except when I inhaled it I could "sense" that in my body.

That's an expensive oil and one has to be sure of one's source for purity/integrity.

It is quite possible you had just one mild strain before. I now know I had lyme since age 21, but jsut plain old lyme, did cause problems, but it wasn't until I got lyme plus babesia in a second tickbite that I rapidly got really really sick.

Either lyme PLUS babesia is a deadly combination, or multiple strains of lyme is the problem, as you said.

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Farah,

Do you mean Albany NY?

Do you know what year, if Albany NY is where you mean??

I ask, because although I have an idea the first tick bite I received was about many years prior to this in Massachusetts,

it was in Albany where I started experiencing many additional and classic lyme symptoms such as diagnosed with "IBS", "migraine", "chostocondritis", .....

and also, was not diagnosed with the other things I was experiencing at the time.

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Hi Painted Turtle,

It was the year 2001-2002. The winter was mild and there were ticks well into October and November. In the summer of 2002, there were over 70 reported cases of severe Lyme disease in that area.

I personally think that the area around Saratoga Springs and Albany is pretty heavily Lyme infested. As an acupuncturist there, I saw way too many people with unspecified "auto-immune" diseases that I am pretty sure were undiagnosed Lyme.

I wasn't one of the reported cases. I had no insurance, and had to rely on a lot of my own devices to get better. Doctors generally gave me the line that I was cured after 3 weeks of doxy, and the rest of the symptoms were fibromyalgia or in my head. Everyone here knows the spiel.

I do think I may have been infected earlier either camping as a child in the northeast, and going to school in Rhode Island, spending time hiking out there, because I did have some intense fevers and weird but mild health issues before things intensified hugely in Upstate New York.

I had also been exposed to high amounts of heavy metals when travelling to Bangladesh, which may have weakened my immune system and made me more susceptible. I don't know any of this for sure, I do know I got seriously slammed hard, and it took a long time to get to 100%.

It did not take me that long to get 50% better, or 60%. That happened within a year (by the beginning of 2003). Then to get from 60% to 80% took another year and a half, I guess(into the summer of 2004). The last 20% have been in the last couple of years.

I think the essential oils are some of the most powerful substances against the spirochetes. I value them greatly as one of the cornerstones on my path to wellness.

Melissa oil is expensive, and has strong antiviral properties, and I think it could be helpful for other intracellular infections. A lot of the less expensive oils, like lemon, also work well. Melissa may be particularly helpful for mycoplasmas which are sort of in between bacteria and viruses.

One of the other important thing about this illness, in my opinion, is to keep treating it as long as you have even the faintest hint of a symptom.

Be suspicious if someone claims you are cured when you still have a symptom. I believe the symptoms are the best indicator that there is still active infection in the body.

That is why I am concerned that Amy Tan considers herself cured when she still has symptoms she is taking heavy medication for. To me, that is a sign that there is still active infection present.

I don't claim to be 100% cured yet, but I do claim to be 100% well now, and to have the condition very much under control with the regimen that I still stick to.

Farah

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Thanks Farah!

For me in Albany and upstate NY area, I was there in the early to mid 1990's beginning with those above symptoms I mentioned, which are only a small, but classic part of the disease progression in me.

The hardest part for me at this point is trying to keep to course.

With zero RAM, just remembering what I'm doing in the moment is really quite challenging. But I am going to print out this thread and give it to a friend who may also have lyme, but still has a capacity to think and plan.

I really need help and without it, could never keep together with a treatment course.

Maybe though, with Amy Tan and all of us too...as I have touched over on that flagyl thread, it is also really important to

consider what may be a side effect to the treatment.

The momentum from acceptance and self knowing is a key force in the ability to move ahead, despite

the CONFUSION all around us from differing medical opinions and having to fight so hard for treatment, let alone acknowledgement.

But.............the real healing does indeed must come from within the self,

no doctor will be able to write a prescription for that in each of us, that must meet with this disease

in all its elements......policital, medical, science, psychological, emotional, mental, physical.......etc.

I try not to worry that the IV may kill me or cause further problems. I will pay out of pocket for it if need be. I just think I am on the right track knowing it is what I need to get really to the core of this infection but only one small part of the whole picutre

of what recovery will be.

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Farah, good to hear about your recovery. Someone on the board mentioned that when one is chelating, N-Acetyl Cysteine can redistribute Mercury back into the brain.

I noticed you had a metals problem. Any idea if it's safe to use NAC while one is chelating?

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Hi Foggy,

The essential oils take heavy metals out of the body. I didn't have any trouble with the NAC heightening my brain or nervous system symptoms at all, and it actually seemed to benefit these symptoms, but I may have cleared a lot of lead and mercury and arsenic out of my body by then through heavy use of essential oils.

I didn't find any harmful effects from the NAC as long as I had it with food, because it can be a bit hard on the gut otherwise.

I think it is important to keep up some sort of treatment as long as we have the slightest trace of symptoms, but I think that this is why it is so important at some point to find remedies that have low or no toxicity to continue treatment with once we have stabilized at a decent level. I know that I don't ever, EVER want to relapse, so I continue the natural regimen.

I do believe that healing comes from within the self, too. We each have our own path and our own immense hurdles with this illness. We have to be our own healers to a great extent because there is so little social, medical, political, economic, or even familial support for us.

It can be tremendously isolating in addition to all of the physical and mental suffering the disease imposes on us. We are all our own guinea pigs. But with time and consistent effort, and the willingness to endure difficult herxes even when they are scary, we can get better.

Farah

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Hi Foggy,

The essential oils take heavy metals out of the body. I didn't have any trouble with the NAC heightening my brain or nervous system symptoms at all, and it actually seemed to benefit these symptoms, but I may have cleared a lot of lead and mercury and arsenic out of my body by then through heavy use of essential oils.

I didn't find any harmful effects from the NAC as long as I had it with food, because it can be a bit hard on the gut otherwise.

I think it is important to keep up some sort of treatment as long as we have the slightest trace of symptoms, but I think that this is why it is so important at some point to find remedies that have low or no toxicity to continue treatment with once we have stabilized at a decent level. I know that I don't ever, EVER want to relapse, so I continue the natural regimen.

I do believe that healing comes from within the self, too. We each have our own path and our own immense hurdles with this illness. We have to be our own healers to a great extent because there is so little social, medical, political, economic, or even familial support for us.

It can be tremendously isolating in addition to all of the physical and mental suffering the disease imposes on us. We are all our own guinea pigs. But with time and consistent effort, and the willingness to endure difficult herxes even when they are scary, we can get better.

Farah

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Farah,

Thanks for sharing. Interesting combo of supplements and therapies.

Just wanted to clarify -- did you take all the different supplements with food or some on an empty stomach?

Bea Seibert

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Hi Bea,

The Yunan Baiyao is fine on an empty stomach. It actually heals ulcerations, erosions, and bleeding of any kind in the digestive tract over time.

With the other supplements I would have them after eating, or would eat soon after having them so they wouldn't sit around in an empty stomach and give me heartburn or nausea. Having food right before or right after prevented this.

It is important to drink lots of water when taking the celery seed, and have potassium rich food.

The niacin can give a person a flushed sensation, like having a temporary sunburn, but I think the flush is actually helpful, because it opens up the microcirculation of the body, which gives the keets even fewer places to hide.


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Farah, congratulations on your healing! Glad to hear your story!

Long ago I tried to PM you, asking about essential oils you mentioned. It was full, so you never received it.

I don't know if I really understood how you take the oils externally. Do you rub on skin? Do you use as aromatherapy/ some sort of heating to emit vapors?

Or use them on certain points of your body? I do use a special Chinese oil on a few accuppuncture points, it does relax!

Thanks for info on that.

My symptoms are now reduced to cold feeling, light air hunger and fatigue.

Selma

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Hi Selma,

The molecules that compose essential oils are small enough to penetrate the skin and enter the body tissues and the bloodstream when they are applied externally.

The molecules are also small enough to cross the blood brain barrier. This is very helpful because the brain is often the area that antibiotics have the most difficulty penetrating.

The essential oils can really compliment antibiotic treatment when used with care as well, because you can use the essential oils directly on trouble spots that are bothering you on the body where the penetration of antibiotics is poor.

For instance, if you have severe pain and swelling around your knee even after a long period of treatment, treating the knee directly with essential oils will often relieve the pain when nothing else has. With consistent use in a certain area, the issue often rapidly diminishes or disappears entirely.

I believe this is because having symptoms in a specific area of the body indicates the presence of a high bacterial load in that area. Killing bacteria directly in that area will relieve pain and other symptoms.

I used the oils in a 15-25% dilution in a base of grapeseed oil. It is important to use the oils diluted. The strengths at which I used the oils are stronger than most aromatherapists will recommend, but I found this to be the strength that addressed Lyme Disease best.

It smells strong, which is often an objection for people with Lyme with chemical sensitivities. I actually think any initial strong reaction they have to the essential oils is generally a herx response.

I found that rubbing the oils over the area of my liver, especially, actually got rid of my chemical sensitivities, and I think that the chemical sensitivities are often a sign of a high bacterial load in the liver.

When the liver is overloaded, we can't detoxify ourselves from toxins that other people deal with day to day and have no adverse reaction to.

I also used the essential oils in my bath water and took hot baths daily in the first couple of years of fighting Lyme disease. I led a very aromatic life for a while.

I am actually happy to not have to be so fragrant any more, but for me, I really believe using the oils this way was more effective that even I.V. antibiotics were, and definitely more effective than the oral antibiotics were on their own.

And they killed off the disease when herbs or even antibiotics wouldn't touch a lot of the problems I had. A lot of problems with severe insomnia (at its height before using the oils, I think I didn't sleep for two weeks straight, but was crushingly horridly fatigued at the same time), and even a lot of the neuropsychiatric symptoms I had would rapidly subside with application of the oils on my scalp.

The only down side I found to using the oils externally, was that it was hard to keep a high concentration in the body consistently, so if I wasn't kind of obsessive compulsive about treatment, I would go up and down a lot, but my good windows of time between flare ups always got progressively longer and longer, as long as I avoided %#@*-up people and situations(which I didn't do for a while and it caused me some major stress induced Lyme problems).

When I started taking oral antibiotics alongside the oils, that changed for the better. And then, when I felt like I had been on antibiotics for a long time, and I wanted to wean off, I decided I would try to take the oils orally to replace them, and to replace having to use them externally so constantly.

This worked for me. It tastes strange, sort of like eating perfume, but it has been done in France for a long time to treat infections of different sorts, so I tried it out and it helped, and I have been off antibiotics since then.

They don't make me feel toxic the way the antibiotics do. I do have to have food right after, and I only take 3-5 diluted drops at a time, sort of like how people will take oil of oregano(which is diluted oregano essential oil).

Some people also stick the drops in a capsule before taking them, but I believe a lot of the absorption happens in the mouth, and that it is best to let it sit there for a while.

Hope this helps.

Farah

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Farah, one problem for me with various oils is the ones that have estrogenic properties. I have to avoid those. I can tell very quickly which ones are trouble by the reaction in my body. I can also usually tell which ones are good for me at a given time simply by smelling them.

I want to do some cleansing and fix my methylation cycle before I begin trying my own experiments with oils.

Did you do any liver flushes during this time? Or colonics?

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Hi Oxygenbabe,

Research has shown that people are often attracted most to the fragrance of the oil that works best for them, and that kills the pathogen in their body most effectively. I did not do any particular liver cleanses or colonics, though I think doing these things has merit. I think I detoxed a lot through my skin because of all of the heat therapy, the baths, and the saunas that I did. I also found that the oils, particularly lemon oil, seemed to be detoxifying for me once my body got acclimated to them.

I also have to say, I do know I had heavy metal issues, and I never had any problems with N-Acetyl Cysteine stirring up neuro problems. I had severe neuro problems before starting NAC, and the problems diminished after taking it. So I can't say I agree with Gigi on that issue. I think most supplements that contain sulphur or other necessary minerals seem to have antimicrobial effects, and I think clearing the bacterial load is the best thing for the immune system, the brain, the liver, and every other system of the body in the long run. I am all for reducing the severity of herxes though, and if colonics and liver cleanses and flushes assist with this, I think that improves compliance to any treatment program.

Farah

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Farah, How do you dilute the oil and do you have to do this prior to using on skin or only internally? How do you do it exactly - each way - internally and externally? Can you tell us specifically? I am interested in trying this.
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How long were you infected before treatment?

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Hi Focus on survival and all,

You can dilute the oils in almond oil or Rice milk. You can also purchase 00 caps and fill them with the oil.

The Melissa is a bit expensive but I have found an ebay seller that has really good prices...

Hope all is well [hi]

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These are the sources that were recommended to me by one in the know:

Marge at Nature's Gift. www.naturesgift.com

Also Butch: www.av-at.com (that's where I got my melissa officinalis)

And this site: www.alittleolfactory.com

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Hi Focusonsurvival,

I dilute most of the oils to about 1/6 to 1/5 (15-20%)in proportion to a carrier oil. My preferred carrier oil is grapeseed oil.

The only oils that I would dilute a lot more would be thyme, because it is very strong (I would only use 7 drops in 2 ounces of oil maximum, maybe not even that much). I also think oregano for people who use it a lot, needs to be diluted a lot more.

I then used them externally wherever I had a problem(except on mucous membranes and eyes). Be aware also that lemon oil can cause sun sensitivity.

It helps to have a good aromatherapy guide to know which oils are appropriate for what. Some are not appropriate for internal use, some can irritate skin even diluted(like cinnamon and clove, but these have been successfully used to treat Lyme in capsule form internally).

It also helps to have the oils from a reputable source. Synthetic chemicals have absolutely no place in aromatherapy, and it is important to ensure purity.

Internally, I would use the same strength dilution and use 3-5 drops at a time, hold it and swish it around my mouth, so that the oils had contact with the area under the tongue, the cheek, and the soft palate(this helps the oils go straight into the blood circulation without going through the digestive tract), and then after 30 seconds-1 minute I would swallow.

It tastes kind of like eating perfume, which is weird. But doing this 3 times/day controlled and treated the Lyme quite well for me. You can mix the already diluted drops in rice milk, or juice or water if it makes it easier, or drop it into capsules and swallow. You need to use capsules immediately since they will mush up quickly.

Certain oils are not generally recommended for use in children under a certain age, and for pregnant women. I personally still think that for long term antimicrobial therapy, they are far safer and health enhancing than conventional drugs.

Farah

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Farah, thanks a lot for your long answer.

I started rubbing eucaliptus + other mix of Chinese stuff (it's called Olbas oil in Germany) on my lung points of accupressure for my light air hunger. I don't know if this is just placebo effect, but it did help, I feel !!!! I'll do it everyday and see what happens!!

I only used Olbas for stomach issues (on weak accupressure points) for years, and I know it's not placebo, as it helps others too. But you inspire me to try again, now with different oils. Would you recommend a book?

I know exactly what you say when you take herbs to kill lyme and co-infections and you still have symptoms (like arthritis). I had eliminated 98% of the pain on my knee and elbow, but it always felt something there. Not even pain, but almost.

Then eliminated these 100% with the KMT applied directly there. So it was caused by bacteries!!! I like the idea to apply oils on troubled spots!!

I have no problem with smells so far. I used non-diluted thyme (crazy, I know) on my skin for pimples years ago. But just once a day, for no more than 2 days, and on very small single surface. It's potent.

I'm mostly interested on DETOXING, than on killing.

Did you use a mix of eucalyptus, frankincense, patchouli, lemon, lavender, thyme, and geranium on your liver?

Is this 'geranium' in fact rose geranium?

I suppose lemon and lavender help on cleansing... Which ones would you recommend for liver?

And metal detox??? I think I really didn't understand how the oils would help on metal detox. Is there a site/ book on that?

As for ingesting the oils, I don't think this could be too bad, depending on the oil. I had taken Olbas oil before, and other peppermint stuff before (Chinese medicine for stomach/ intestinal problems). It's commonly used in Indonesia, introduced by the Chinese. And sold here in Germany, the label says we can ingest it.

And you said you used infra red light on troubled spots. I have an infra red light that warms here at home, I think used to warm chicks. Don't you think this infra red could make heavy metals go deeper in the tissues if used without sauna?

thanks again !
selma

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FArah, just wanting to thank you for the rubbing tip. I found a booklet at home about essential oils, studying it for the moment. Ravensara looks an interesting oil to try!

Meanwhile, I tried rubbing Olbas oil on the lung (accupressure points). My 'congested' lungs (for at least 2-3 months) are MUCH BETTER now !!!

I can't believe it.

On the other hand, my liver got hit, so had to re-take milk thistle. Too much oil on skin on one day.

Just wanting to thank you for this tip. I'll use the oil with care, but certainly it did something positive!!

Selma

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